The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 146

doubleofive said:

The colors are off on both the screencaptures I found online and the screencaptures I made off of a YouTube video of a guy pointing a camera at a massive LED screen, but here is the visual comparison of Yodas:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot1.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot2.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot3.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot4.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot5.png

Dear god, WTF is with the color? It's like someone forgot to turn off the 100% Saturation filter in Photoshop...

As for CG Yoda... well... I'm just going to come right out and say it:
He looks absolutely terrible to me.

Granted, the EP1 puppet was definitely not an accurate replica of the ESB Yoda, but at least he still looked REAL - he looked like he was a living, breathing creature (another benefit of using real props, George...). This new CG Yoda looks so damn fake to me, I can't f***ing stand it!

And Octorox is right, Yoda looks downright pissed off in every shot (could the CG artists at least bother to give the character more than one expression?)

doubleofive said:

The colors are off on both the screencaptures I found online and the screencaptures I made off of a YouTube video of a guy pointing a camera at a massive LED screen, but here is the visual comparison of Yodas:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot1.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot2.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot3.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot4.png

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a115/doubleofive/CGI%20Yoda/CGI-Yodo-Shot5.png

Oh good grief. They didn't do anything new to the colors. This was obviously a handycam bootleg that was not properly exposed. The images are just really hot versions of the originals... With the exception of the CG Yoda.

Granted, the EP1 puppet was definitely not an accurate replica of the ESB Yoda, but at least he still looked REAL - he looked like he was a living, breathing creature

I disagree - he looked like a muppet. There's a certain exaggeration to Sesame Street, etc, that ESB Yoda just didn't have. TPM Yoda looks like a South Park Canadian, with his flappy head and beady eyes ;) (no offence to any Canadians, but that movie was pretty funny).

DE

I think we are meant to be seeing Yoda from little not yet orphan Annie's point of view.

So Yoda looks a lot scarier than he possibly is.

It is an improvement on the wacky puppet but it also creates some new problems that hopefully can be solved by others once the material is released to the general public.

It might be possible to shrink his big head for example.

He does seem to have a baby-like top heaviness to him for sure.

Though it might help illustrate the point if we had a comparison of all the different Yodas in the saga including both TPM versions.

Well, is a new version of TPM coming out soon with the new Yoda? What if it's not out by the time Ady starts work on the prequels?

I have a strong feeling that Ady will take a nice long break after ROTJ, to start work on TPM whenever said CG Yoda version is released.  I know I wouldn't mind - it'd probably be good for Ady's sanity, too.

...but you can't blame Canada for that Yoda abomination!

But we can blame you for Brian Adams ;)

DE

It's gonna take at least 4 years from now for ROTJ Revisited to be done. I am betting the TPM Blu-Ray with CG Yoda will be out by then.

Some preview pics of the V2 "Color-Corrected" release of my Attack of the Federation fanedit (which removes the DVD video's red/magenta hue and give a bit of a boost to the brightness/contrast of the video):

The irony here is that in the same sentence you talk about Revisited AND LFL releasing something the fans want ;)

I'm just thinking we shouldn't get excited just yet. Let's wait until we have something more conclusive.

For all we know Ady may just remove Yoda from TPM entirely - I know I would.

Getting back to the idea of anakin adopting the established name of Vader - what if during TPM sidious introduced Maul as vader? swap out one word and the rest plays out as normal.

"This is my apprentice Darth Vader, He will find your lost ship."

It works for Ben to not entirely be sure of the details. it feels like ROTS tries to hard to tie up loose ends in the wrong ways -  in anh Vader says [to ben]

"when i left you..."

not

"when you left me scarred and dismembered to die painfully..."

doubleofive said:

Here is a nice comparison:

I think the I-SE's head may be off just a hair.  And VI looks almost as dumb as I.  Maybe he really was getting old, and his right eye broke in the year between V and VI.

Other issues that I've noticed with the CG Yodas:
- they have no chin (ESB Yoda has a very pronounced "clef-chin")

- the eyebrow ridge seems closer to the eyes

- they don't have lips, or rather, they seem to have no lower lip (ESB Yoda's lower lip is a bit fuller)

Shouldn't TPM CG Yoda look 10 years younger than the AOTC Yoda?

darthmunky said:

Shouldn't TPM CG Yoda look 10 years younger than the AOTC Yoda?

For an 800+ year old alien... what's a decade or two?
:P

doubleofive said:

Here is a nice comparison:

I think the I-SE's head may be off just a hair.  And VI looks almost as dumb as I.  Maybe he really was getting old, and his right eye broke in the year between V and VI.

ROTS has the best CG Yoda. ESB has the best Puppet Yoda. ESB has the best looking Yoda overall

The CGI Yodas are too articulate, they are sometimes cartoonish in expression like a claymation character.

In a way they need the reverse treatment to what Ady has done done for the ESB puppet.

They need to be smoothed out and toned down a bit.

The ROTJ Yoda needs his eyes sorting out, I know he isn't well but that's not what it looks like.