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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 124

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Angel:

One shot Anakin is on the shot. In the other he isnt.

 

You say that like it's a bad thing. I say remove him from the other one, not add more of him.

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DuTwan said:

vaderios said:

One shot Anakin is on the shot. In the other he isnt.

-Angel

 Haha nice catch there Angel. maybe we coud find a side pic of anakin you could slot in there? lmao

It would actually be more credible to not have Anakin there at all. Why would he just stoop there with his saber when he and Obi-Wan were both there? I say take him out. Less is more with Anakin. :D

But the real big problem with all of these subtle changes is that you cant polish a turd.

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shanerjedi said:

DuTwan said:

vaderios said:

One shot Anakin is on the shot. In the other he isnt.

-Angel

 Haha nice catch there Angel. maybe we coud find a side pic of anakin you could slot in there? lmao

It would actually be more credible to not have Anakin there at all. Why would he just stoop there with his saber when he and Obi-Wan were both there? I say take him out. Less is more with Anakin. :D

But the real big problem with all of these subtle changes is that you cant polish a turd.

 Trouble is with removing anakin from that section then the next bit wouldnt make much sense that anakin would also be holdin on, unlessed sucked from the other side of the bridge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KTqMA9ShkI

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What I was saying some pages back about having the Trade Federation carpet bomb another Naboo city.

The refugees we hear about in AOTC could have been people who had escaped off world before the blockade and are slowly returning back now that their homes have been rebuilt and the capital is seeming to be becoming more dangerous than the place they escaped from thanks to the Seperatists crisis.

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That's why that space depot on Coruscant in AOTC should've been overflowing with masses of people ala Ellis Island instead of the scant few in the film.

If someone wanted to be "radical" they could even use that background as a reason to move Anakin and Padme's hiding place to Alderaan instead of Naboo. Maybe many, many refugees traveled to Alderaan as well to escape the Clone Wars raging in the outer rim?

 

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That's the thing though isn't?

In AOTC the refugees are leaving Coruscant for Naboo, not the other way around.

Which is why I thought it would be people returning home after the chaos of the events in TPM (which should be much darker in a reworked version).

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Bingowings said:

That's the thing though isn't?

In AOTC the refugees are leaving Coruscant for Naboo, not the other way around.

Which is why I thought it would be people returning home after the chaos of the events in TPM (which should be much darker in a reworked version).

It's not conveyed well though that refugees are leaving Coruscant, or even that there are many refugees at all. That whole ship depot should be chuck full of people fleeing war and either settling on Coruscant, or returning to resettle their homeworlds.

You know what might be cool? To show them returning to Naboo and have bombed out buildings in the background in the city. It would also add some seriousness to that whole Annie/Padme sequence. Would also tie in with atrocities committed by the TF in TPM.

But what I really like about the OT is that, at least with the first two films, there were new worlds and new situations.

In the PT we have so much retread it continues the trend started with ROTJ. Naboo....again. Coruscant....again. Tatooine...again.

Even Geonosis and Tatooine look alike in too many ways IMHO.

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Adding scaffolding to the buildings in Theed (in AOTC) would be a great idea as would some damage in TPM.

We never did see the other Naboo cities, Theed can't be the only one so if there are more leveling one in TPM would give weight to the most flimsy planetary invasion in cinema history.

Adding human drama to cartoon droids attacking cartoon cities and fighting cartoon aliens would make that film at least slightly human.

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Bingowings:

We never did see the other Naboo cities, Theed can't be the only one so if there are more leveling one in TPM would give weight to the most flimsy planetary invasion in cinema history.

The cities weren't attacked with great military force because this was a political takeover designed to force Queen Amidala to flee and seek help from the Senate. Sidious/Palpatine didn't intend to destroy it, only do what was necessary to meet his ends. Only Theed was overrun, as far as we know. There was no reason for the Trade Federation to destroy any city.

But yeah, it does look like a non-event, so I understand why you'd want to add more destruction.

Adding human drama to cartoon droids attacking cartoon cities and fighting cartoon aliens would make that film at least slightly human.

Can't argue with that!

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Darth Venal said:

Bingowings:

We never did see the other Naboo cities, Theed can't be the only one so if there are more leveling one in TPM would give weight to the most flimsy planetary invasion in cinema history.

The cities weren't attacked with great military force because this was a political takeover designed to force Queen Amidala to flee and seek help from the Senate. Sidious/Palpatine didn't intend to destroy it, only do what was necessary to meet his ends. Only Theed was overrun, as far as we know. There was no reason for the Trade Federation to destroy any city.

But yeah, it does look like a non-event, so I understand why you'd want to add more destruction.

Adding human drama to cartoon droids attacking cartoon cities and fighting cartoon aliens would make that film at least slightly human.

Can't argue with that!

But there would be if their intent were real and they weren't merely chess pieces or literal pawns of Palpatine so he could gain the Chancellorship.

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Here's another. Not long ago there were disagreements about whether Jar Jar was necessary in the Senate scene where his one vote gets Palpatine emergency powers. Here's my preferred take on that scene. No Jar Jar, and Palps doesn't say he's creating an army with his new powers, as in my edit (and any edit where the Jedi aren't completely retarded) the Clone army is already common knowledge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGTTG4Bbjf0

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

are you going to attempt to add the shipyard/star destoryer stuff in the background?

Well here is the first try after a long time.

Nothing to fancy like Ryan church's concept but it holds i think.

 

-Angel

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vaderios said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

are you going to attempt to add the shipyard/star destoryer stuff in the background?

Well here is the first try after a long time.

Nothing to fancy like Ryan church's concept but it holds i think.

 

-Angel

That's hot, hot hot! :)

Very nice.

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vaderios said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

are you going to attempt to add the shipyard/star destoryer stuff in the background?

Well here is the first try after a long time.

Nothing to fancy like Ryan church's concept but it holds i think.

 

-Angel

 Yeah yeah! I like this alot. It actually makes me think of when they mention a space station in ANH....I wonder why we never saw one in the PT....anyways....very good pic! Is that Coruscant? That would probably make sense...Keep up the good work! :D

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I've been thinking about an extra scene for the ending of TPM. How about we put in a shot of Darth Sidious standing on the balcony he was talking with Darth Maul earlier, mulling over events of the movie? The novel describes a scene like this, and I think it would be nice to give some closure on his character, since he is (in my opinion) the phantom menace of the title. It could be a simple scene with the music describing how Sidious feels. It might also end the movie on a more mysterious note.

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I actually disagree. TPM should be like Star Wars was originally: a movie that can stand alone, with just a sequel hook or two to link it to the next one. (Star Wars only really had one sequel hook, but it was in neon lights — DARTH VADER GOT AWAY!) The end should feel like "the end" of the TPM story, like ANH ends on the celebration scene.

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RoccondilRinon said:

I actually disagree. TPM should be like Star Wars was originally: a movie that can stand alone, with just a sequel hook or two to link it to the next one. (Star Wars only really had one sequel hook, but it was in neon lights — DARTH VADER GOT AWAY!) The end should feel like "the end" of the TPM story, like ANH ends on the celebration scene.

 

definitely! i still stand by the idea of a TPM edit simply titled 'star wars'.;)
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I'm sorry to dig this up again but I thought I'd add my two cents to the lightsaber color debate.

My thinking is that the color of a jedi's lightsaber is a way to indicate who taught them as a padawan. So Luke has green because Yoda has green. Anakin blue because Obiwan has blue. Granted Qui Gon's is green but since he's a more open minded Jedi, he would want his students to decide for themselves. Someone would have to add more purple sabers to show who Windu taught. So there you go -  tradition without making it visually dull to watch or turning it into KoToR.

If you want to be really radical about it, make Qui Gon's red, as kind of a visual protest against the idea that color could really indicate a jedi's morality. Since Anakin could kill children without switching from blue, it could be a way to show how gray things were during this time period. I don't think any one will actually do this since it would be very confusing to the casual viewer. But these fan edits aren't really for casual fans.

Honestly, I can understand the argument of the old order insisting that everyone have blue, but would Luke care if everyone had green? I figure he just wanted to distance himself from his father, past and present.

"Reality leaves a lot to the imagination." – John Lennon

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I didn't mean for the proposed Sidious scene to be the final scene, but just a scene near the end of the movie. That scene as described in the novel was always interesting to me, and I would have liked to see some sort of "reaction" from Sidious to Maul's death and the defeat at Naboo.

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SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

vaderios said:

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

are you going to attempt to add the shipyard/star destoryer stuff in the background?

Well here is the first try after a long time.

Nothing to fancy like Ryan church's concept but it holds i think.

 

-Angel

 Yeah yeah! I like this alot. It actually makes me think of when they mention a space station in ANH....I wonder why we never saw one in the PT....anyways....very good pic! Is that Coruscant? That would probably make sense...Keep up the good work! :D

Angel, great job!

Starship Troopers has some footage of a ringed spacedock if you need more footage.

I like this idea. I do however think you should do something to show the size of these things.

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skye1083 said:

But these fan edits aren't really for casual fans.

Honestly, I can understand the argument of the old order insisting that everyone have blue, but would Luke care if everyone had green? I figure he just wanted to distance himself from his father, past and present.


my argument for the all blue sabres was more for the casual viewer. the audience i would aim for, ie girlfriend, friends and colleagues etc. i get analysing a comic or book, or even extra exposition on the back of an action figure box, but the films were designed for average joes to see once at the cinema, or even a dozen times on video.

my personal view is a fun adventure in space/tradtional monomyth, with a basic and effective visual message. not tolkien.