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Hey Gang!

I was asked by a few other members and a mod to start a thread that focused on the FAN reviews of the "Fan" created DVD sets.

The main goal here is to post PERSONAL reviews (NOT attacks) of the MANY fan created transfers of our beloved films so please try to keep the reviews to the discussion of the video’s strengths and weaknesses and also do your best to provide details to support your praise or criticism of the release and In order to keep a consistent look to these reviews please try to follow either one of these basic outlines.



“5-Star” Type Review


TRANSFER TITLE: The DVD’s name

REVIEW: Your review should include your overall opinion of the quality of the DVD’s video and audio presentation quality i.e. if the video looks washed out, pixilated, displays compression/motion artifacts or if the audio sounds hollow, tinny, brassy or over modulated. You can also discuss what you expected from the DVD or did not expect.

VIDEO RATING: *** (You can use “? of 5” Stars to rate the video and audio)

AUDIO RATING: ****

VIEWING EQUIPMENT: Here you should list all of your equipment by brands, model numbers and display type (connection types if you wish)



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Ty“Top-Ten” Type Review
(Starting with what you consider the “not so great” transfers then lead up (or down ) to the best)

10 - (Enter Transfers name here)

The enter a review of the film under the releases title

9 - (Enter Transfers name here)

And then countdown to your personal #1




Have fun and Enjoy the show!



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I've been asked for a review of this set from a few folks and so in lieu of full reviews for each DVD I’ve done these MINI reviews!!

In my quest to review all the DVD’s I was gonna sit down and watch one transfer a day and write down notes on the films BUT after think this plan over (50+ hours of SW in 7 days…) SO instead I made a OT transfer DEMO DVD that featrured 7 of the best NTSC OT laserdisc transfers! And now after having a few friends (5 of us total) over to check out the Demo DVD and the new Cowclops Transfers; we did watch the DEMO DVD first (27” 4:3 TV) and then the entire Cowclops V.2 ESB (16:9 LCD projector) then after the viewing we watched the DEMO DVD a second time (TV) and third time (Projector) after that we voted for the BEST OT transfers...

Now, there are few things for you to consider about these mini reviews.

1 - We did not use ANY of the Asian "IMPORTED" laserdisc transfers.

2 - I felt it best NOT to use the PAL transfers as the average DVD viewer cannot play PAL

3 - These are my personal opinions and it is best to come to your own conclusion about these DVD’s (that’s why I made the DEMO DVD )

So starting from the bottom of the list....

7 - The Quality Broth set

This set is the worst of the best, it features lots of artifacting, jaggies and pixilation BUT the colors are nice and not over boosted or muted - would look best on a 19" or smaller screen.

6 - The Cowclops V.2

This is yet again another anamorphic transfer but unlike the other versions this one seems to have the aspect ration spot on (I’ve not measured it but it looks damn close!) when screened with a Panasonic PT-AE100U (16x9 native) LCD projector this transfer also has motion artifacting jaggies which seem to be a LD to DVD trait but this transfer does offer good detail on all three discs the only downer is that all the dark colors did look a bit washed out and when played back on a 27” television odd double black bars appeared…

The double black bars shot this set down, the black levels are WAY off on all the discs in this set and required the standard TV settings to be changed in order to make them disappear - so this would also mean that the double black bars (ones really dark grey) are really supposed to be there? (the dealer of this set has confirmed that the low black levels are intentional) - SO you'll honestly need to lower the brightness setting and possibly boost the contrast on your set to enjoy these DVD’s (THEN lower both again to watch TV or other movies – otherwise they seem too dark!)

– OKAY, OKAY yes having to adjust your set is really no big deal nor does it take that long but let’s be brutally honest here… WHEN was the last time you had to alter the color settings of your TV set in order to enjoy a DVD?


5 - The Farsight Set

A very fair transfer the second of the “Anamorphic” transfers and is about tied with the ISOMIX set on quality. Nice colors and less jaggies and pixilation but there is some artifacting under motion and dark scenes - The picture is not as sharp and some finer details are a bit blurred but the lack of double black bars when played back on a standard 4:3 set bumped this set above the Cowclops V.2 set -


4 - The ISOMIX Set

The Isolated score gave this set the edge until the EditDroid set became a public torrent, Good/Fair colors and a real neat menu structure have kept this a popular set but the set does suffer from more jaggies on ESB and JEDI and some motion artifacting is apparent in the "battle" scenes and the sabers seem a bit washed (true they are in the LD also) - BUT I'm sure that this set is a straight transfer with NO color or gamma modifications.

3 - The Cowclops V.1 (aka Row47, TR47 and the PCM audio set)

This set is a LONG time favorite next to the Dr. Gonzo set. This set features the BEST AUDIO PERIOD! Sweet PCM transfer has the BEST surround of any set and the picture very well may be on of the best also. A few minor errors have been pointed out on this set including a LD side flip on ESB that has 4 seconds of blank screen before the Leia welding footage (At 50m 31s) and ROTJ; on some DVD players there MAY be a slight stutter when a speeder bike explodes due to a bitrate jump. The lack of any menus was a bit of a let down but the overall video/audio presentation made up for the lack of menus.
AND yes, it is true that there was a second version that was re-authored by RowMan to include new basic “title-page” static menus and he also cut the bad “blank” screen frames this second version is called the “Row47” version and is a real step up from the first release.

The Best sound and great 4x3 picture helped this set tie for #2

2 - Dr. Gonzo

This is the oldest known transfer of the sets, yet most likely the most popular and well known of ALL the sets. This DVD set became the main stay of eBay OT DVD's for many years now and has fetched upwards of $500 for a 4 disc set (a few years back that is!). The sheer awesomeness of this set is apparent in the menu layout and the anamorphic video conversion. (the first of the anamorphic versions) It would seem MORE time that went into the creation of this set then others based on the presentation (with the exception of the EditDroid set), from the commentary track to the incredible extras disc, if only the audio was a stronger and if the video had a bit more detail (the video seems a bit fuzzy the yellow off a tad & aspect ratio seems off very slightly) this set may well have NOT tied for second.

1 - The EditDroid Set

WOW, after all the sets we get a set with both great picture and sound. MUCH thought went into this set with its selectable title crawl for STAR WARS and the coolest menus of the bunch. Sure some sets may have been encoded into anamorphic widescreen but thank goodness the creators of this set did not take that route! (I prefer the straight 4:3 transfers myself – no 16:9 display) This set may well be the damn nicest of the NTSC transfers, strong colors and solid audio set this set apart.

VIEWING EQUIPMENT:

Display 1: APEX AT-2708 27” Television - Calibrated by an ISF certified calibrator/HD installer - connection via S-Video

Display 2: Panasonic PT-AE100U (16x9 native) LCD Projector - connection via Component Video for Progressive Scan output

DVD Player: Philips DVP-642

HT equipment used: ONYKO TX-SR501 - DTS ES/Dolby Digital EX Receiver, Six NHT New Wave Satellites and a KLH 10” powered subwoofer (SW10-100C)


Please post your opinions of the transfers!!!!!!!!!


Word to the Spookies...


Now back to my vacation - REALLY!

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Very interesting that the new Cowclops set came in behind EditDroid, Gonzo, and TR47- even Isomix. I expected it to be one of if not the best transfer.

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First I'd like to thank everyone who has worked or is working on a transfer, I really appreciate all of them. If some comments may seem vile, they weren't meant to be. The comments also may seem too negative overall, just see it this way: if it's not mentioned it's good
I've been doing some very extensive comparing every time a new transfer comes out, and I've come to realize you really get better at it every time. The first couple of times it's very hard: you don't really know what to focus on, and as a result I've also had TR47 and EditDroid on #1 in the past. I've since discovered more weaknesses in all of them. Anyway, this is my top 8, I've always tried to be as objective as possible. It's purely about picture quality (menu's, extra's etc. don't have anything to do with the quality of the transfer). The sound is good on all transfers so I'll omit discussing that, the differences don't weigh up to the differences in picture quality in my opinion. The color/contrast/brightness being a bit off also is no argument, as long as it can be adjusted on your TV.
What I play my DVD's on: a high-end Philips DVD-player (DVDR-70) and a high-end Philips 32" widescreen TV (32PW9520).

7 - Farsight

In principle decent picture quality, although it isn't very sharp. It also has too much noise, and the image is distorted in a real peculiar way: the forming of horizontal lines. Especially visible in segments with things like smoke. But the big minus with this transfer is that the whites are totally clipped. Meaning: everything that's bright has lost all detail and was turned into plain white, beyond the point of possible recovery by adjusting your TV. It looks bad and it hurts the eyes.

6 - ISOMIX

I agree with Rikter on it being a straight transfer, very little or no filtering has been applied. It is one of the sharpest ones around. But it has the most noise and compression artifacts of all 8, not a good combination. Although not taken into account, it has one unique feature: English subtitles, and one close-to-unique feature: isolated score.

5 - Dark Jedi

Straight transfer aswell. I really can't say whether it should be above or below TR47, therefore they share the fifth place. It has a little bit more noise, but has been compressed better, it doesn't "wipe" as much during motion and doesn't have color banding. It's a bit too dark so boost the brightness a bit.

5 - TR47 (Cowclops V.1)

A sharp one, but a bit too much noise which leads to compression artifacts, a good example is the smoke with laser in it, when the stormtroopers come rushing into the Tantive. I know this is a painful subject, but it definitely is there (I don't care about Q numbers, just watch it on a big enough screen). It also has color banding and "wipes" (becomes unsharp) during motion.

4 - Cowclops (V.2)

Nice clear, smooth (virtually no noise) and sharp image (although TR47 was a tiny bit sharper). But it suffers from green shades throughout the entire movie (for example to the right of Luke after Obi-Wan sais "I was once a Jedi knight, same as your father"). And I was really surprised to see it have some pretty bad color banding: worse than V.1. A real shame, without the green shades and the color banding it would have been the best NTSC transfer yet. On a 4:3 TV it may have double black bars, but that's just an indication your brightness is set to high, probably the reason why Cowclops did that.

3 - EditDroid

Sharpest NTSC transfer around, nice and clear, also virtually free of noise. It would have been perfect if it wasn't for one: the extreme moire/dot crawl. And two: the filtering that's responsible for some weird (and pretty bad) noise creation: most pronounced in some of the ep IV Tatooine footage. Take a look at the first 10 seconds of chapter 11 and you'll see what I mean. If you plan on watching it entirely DO add some brightness and a huge amount of color.

2 - Dr. Gonzo

Very clear, smooth image. And although it isn't the sharpest one around, its clarity really gives it a sharp appearance (that may sound illogical, but when you see it you'll know what I mean). It also is 99% free of noise, the least noisiest one by far.

1 - Moth3r

First and only PAL LD transfer available. The difference with NTSC LD is astounding. The increased vertical resolution results in much more detail. It has a few drawbacks such as noise, surfaces having colored spots, the occasional line drop-out or the two color shifts, but the NTSC transfers so far are no match for this one. Just don't forget to boost the color on your TV, same as with EditDroid.

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I'd be interested to read comparisons of the DVD-based Ep. IV edits; specifically:
ADigitalMan's version with trimmed scenes, a few fixes and modified audio.
ocpmovie's version that uses laserdisc footage to replace a lot of the CGI crap.
Darth Editous who has digitally painted out the CGI stuff, and also gone to town removing continuity errors and fixing dodgy SFX.
Anyone seen all three?

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Does anyone think Cowclops V2 audio and video are out of sync? I've really only closely examined SW and TESB.

Was the Audio and video encoded seperatley or at the same time?
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Title : Cowclops Version 2 : A New Hope Transfer

I just previewed the Cowclops V.2 Episode IV disc, and I must say.......
Poopoo.

I completely disliked it, hated it, couldn't watch it. This is a personal opinion, so please nobody get offended here:
Besides the way-too obvious off-black bars (which you can get past by adjusting contrast as Rik stated), I was seriously taken aback by the amount of blockiness on motion AND still scenes. After seeing other people hype this as the best thing next to the X0, I expected alot more. I don't know if it was Cowclops' encoding, or maybe a rotting LD player, but....very bad. I see they used CCE for the encoder, and it is hands-down the best encoder out there. But I think maybe they didn't do enough passes, or possibly the Q factors were set wrong, or the VBR bias...whatever it was, movies encoded with CCE should definitely not be blocky. I much prefer any other set, because, again, I seriously could not watch this. You know, props for trying, but...whatever.

I certainly hope the X0 guys do AT LEAST the max 9 passes in CCE's SP version, hopefully the max of 14 or whatever is allowed in the corporate, or regular CCE version. Because it sure is a shame when your encoder screws up your meticulously edited and transferred video

Video Rating : * (okay maybe a two)
Audio Rating : **** (nice and loud)
Viewing Equipment : Asus z71v WSXGA 1680x1050 resolution monitor (yeah, that's right, I see ALL video faults).

Needless to say, I will not be wasting any more time or bandwidth downloading the remaining two discs of this set, so if they are awesome - too bad.
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I don't see any of this blockyness, could you describe a sequence where it is most pronounced, or even better post a screenshot?

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The few things thing i noticed about Cowclops are... that it seems audio is out of sync with video. It may just be me but I compared it to my VHS and my beta-DVD transfers. I can't really be sure. I have to bring it into work and go frame by frame to check this. Also there is some pixelation. I was actually a little tiny bit, tiny bit that it is, surprised that it was taken from Laser disc and passed through an encoder because my VHS transfers are not much better and the bit rate is about the same.

Here's an example of some pixelation...
When Luke and the Gammorean guard are dropped into the rancor pit, as soon as the shot changes to see Luke and the guard slide from the shoot, the walls are a little blocky.

And I don't know if this is just my dics, but at a few points (that Ive noticed just from skimming) there is a noise line. Kind of similar to what you would see from a worn out VHS tape or bad tracking.

Example... TESB-When the probe droid is moving to the left of the screen after it first appears behind a snow mound.
ROTJ-Right before C3P0 explains how the "heroes" are going to die in the Sarlaac Pit. The camera is shooting up at the skiff from the pit.

However the Menus are pretty damn good.

Commentary track is useless because it is also on the Trilogy Bonus disc and it says who is speaking.
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Blockiness and pixellation is evident across the board. In every scene I cut to, within seconds I was appalled. Maybe most of you probably don't notice because you preview DVD's on your conventional television - with inferior resolution.
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Originally posted by: bongloads
Blockiness and pixellation is evident across the board. In every scene I cut to, within seconds I was appalled. Maybe most of you probably don't notice because you preview DVD's on your conventional television - with inferior resolution.


Well thanks, that was pretty much pointless.
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Originally posted by: bongloads
Blockiness and pixellation is evident across the board. In every scene I cut to, within seconds I was appalled. Maybe most of you probably don't notice because you preview DVD's on your conventional television - with inferior resolution.


I looked up what a "Asus z71v WSXGA" exactly is, and it turns out you have been watching it on a 15" laptop screen... You should know better, that's not what movies and computer screens are intended for. Now, the resolution is much higher, but that's of no importance at all, since DVD's fall in the range of the resolution of all big enough TV's. If you like to watch movies I sincerely recommend to watch them on a good TV, every single movie will look better on that than on a computer screen. Come to think of it, plasma, LCD and TFT all give poorer image than conventional cathode-ray tube screens, with the exception of computer games and programs.

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A conventional CRT screen may have inferior resolution to some plasmas/LCDs/DLPs but CRTs can display the output pixel-for-pixel whilst the other displays all have to be scaled to display NTSC or PAL, and not forgetting that not all plasmas are even PAL resolution (853x480 seems to be the norm for cheap displays)

Although saying that I do watch films on a 15" LCD, but with one very important difference to bongloads, it's got a 400watt bulb behind it
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Ok folks, I also own a perfectly normal 27" Sony Trinitron, and actually WATCH most movies there - where you can't tell the difference between a DVD and a newer VHS. But I PREVIEW some movies on the 1680x1050 wsxga monitor on my laptop - because it's incredibly high resolution allows me to see the difference between a 3 Mbps DVD rip, and a 7 Mbps retail DVD9. And anything in between. What I've clearly stated is that most of you cannot see all the blocks of backround colors blending together and the erratic edges of allegedly round objects on the screen on your conventional set, and neither can I (mostly). But when you pop in say, Dr. Gonzo's "slightly soft" DVD's, or the first "TR47" set, and then pop in this cut on your pc, you'll see what I mean - even if you can only get 1024x768 (which, incidentally is the most common resolution for most so-called "High Definition" televisions and LCD projectors - poop). Put any of them on a normal television, and they all look pretty much the same. All of this is the byproduct of a combination of Laserdisc player shortcomings, poor capture devices and cables, and what I suspect mostly on this release - encoding, encoding, encoding. There is no substitute for more quality-enhancing passes when it comes to a software encoder. Most professional DVD rendering facilities use hardware encoders, or even the Pro version of our beloved Cinema Craft Encoder.

And "Grinder" : There's a very important reason why games and apps look so much better on a pc monitor, and video usually looks fine on conventional sets - Think about it, shows and movies are sold with those little RBG squares on your tv in mind (go ahead, get close and look.) And games and applications are made with itty, bitty, little pixels in mind - capable of displaying ANY color, and being much smaller than a television "pixel" if you will. Try routing your computer display to your regular television one day and you'll really see what I mean. Then play a DVD through it, and it looks absolutely the same.

What I'm getting at, is that I feel that the image quality of this Cowclops V.2 : Episode IV, does not hold a candle to any of the other "major" backups out there. And only the creator could tell you why. I've seen people use an ungodly low 3 PASSES for their Star Wars LD backups!!!! - And if you've ever used CCE extensively before, you would know that the more computing time you put in, the better your backup will be. The old addage about "you get what you put into it" universally applies. But if all you own is a 19" RCA from 1986, with component inputs, then you shouldn't even care about what I think, because you'll never see the difference (nor could you be reading this!). But if you own a nice, newer 1280x or 1366x HDTV, then you're gonna want to get the first "TR47" or the Dr. Gonzo set, because you will DEFINITELY appreciate the clarity and/or overall quality of those releases much more.

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Originally posted by: bongloads
I've seen people use an ungodly low 3 PASSES for their Star Wars LD backups!!!! - And if you've ever used CCE extensively before, you would know that the more computing time you put in, the better your backup will be.
And if you've ever read the fucking manual for CCE, you might have noticed the sentence that says "image quality slightly improves each time encoding is repeated, but quality improvement reaches its limit at 3 ~ 4 times of encoding".

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ungodly low 3 PASSES
certainly hope the X0 guys do AT LEAST the max 9 passes in CCE's SP version, hopefully the max of 14 or whatever is allowed in the corporate, or regular CCE version.


As Moth3r already said quality improvement reaches its limit at 3 ~ 4 times of encoding.
I bet you can't show us some clips that shows us the difference!

Besides the maximum is 99 passes. Bongloads, you really encode a lot yourself, right?
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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
ungodly low 3 PASSES
certainly hope the X0 guys do AT LEAST the max 9 passes in CCE's SP version, hopefully the max of 14 or whatever is allowed in the corporate, or regular CCE version.


As Moth3r already said quality improvement reaches its limit at 3 ~ 4 times of encoding.
I bet you can't show us some clips that shows us the difference!

Besides the maximum is 99 passes. Bongloads, you really encode a lot yourself, right?


No, I can't show you any clips, because I would never waste my time encoding at less than 5 passes, let alone pass a movie twice. And "Moth3r", the official Cinema Craft Encoder Manual DOES NOT SAY "image quality slightly improves each time encoding is repeated, but quality improvement reaches its limit at 3 ~ 4 times of encoding" (you probably pulled that from someone's extremely uninformed guide). But it DOES state that "image quality improves with each additional pass". Albeit a small increase in overall bitrate, it IS an increase. And when working with a high-bitrate video to begin with, every Mbps counts. Also, while the manual does state that the maximum passes is 99, DVD-Rebuilder only allows 9 passes on CCE-SP (10, including .VAF). And yes, I do ALOT of encoding - over a hundred movies to date. So I can say from extensive personal research, that the more passes you do, the better your "backup" will be. Take a 7GB DVD9 and run it through CCE 5 times, then take another 7GB (same filesize) DVD9 and pass it 9 times. Then compare original bitrates at any given moment to the new "backed-up" copies on each - you will certainly see a difference, numbers don't lie. Again, you may need a High-Definition television or a high-resolution monitor to actually SEE the difference, but I assure you it's there. I have seen many a 2 or 3 pass CCE encode that still exhibits blockiness or artifacts that could have easily been avoided by more passes. Think about it - if you looked at a page of text for one second, and then tried to recall all of the text you saw; and then looked at the same page for 10 seconds, would you remember more? Yes. And that's precisely what CCE does on multipass VBR - every pass is comparing the original to the "backed-up" video over and over - in an effort to increase overall bitrate and image quality. Basically, if you have never used an encoder extensively, then you have no idea what you're talking about - and no amount of Google-searches will cue you in. Now being that we've gone completely off-topic here, that's all I'm saying about that. You go ahead and encode your movies with DVDShrink or 3 Pass VBR, and I'll do mine 9 pass; and when all anyone has is HDTV's in the near future, and you have to throw away all your backup's because they look like poo, don't come crying to me Why don't you call Pixar and ask them how many variable bitrate passes they do? You'll be shocked.

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Interesting that the cowclops v.2 got so low and cowclops/tr47 v.1 got so high. Is the only reason the black bars/contrast&brightness adjustments the reason?
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I would think that ANY transfer would have a difficult time looking good on a HDTV simply because the original resolution captured is low. Even when the X0 project is released you better believe there will be nay-sayers with HDTV's preaching that it's no good and we all wasted our time waiting for it to arive.

The Cowclops V2 looks spectacular on my 27" Flatscreen TV (non-HD) AND pretty darn good on my flatscreen computer monitor. I don't plan on buying a higher resolution TV anytime in the near future, so I say if you're like me then the Cowclops V2 will more than satisfy your needs for now.

I'd also like to add that I don't have any other transfers to compare it with (newbie).
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Started out as a response, then I decided to do a full review

TRANSFER TITLE: Cowclops V.2

REVIEW: I also thought that Cowclops V.2 looked great on my tv, once again a non-HDTV. I also have the Editdroid set, and maybe an HDTV would make a difference, but I personally thought that cowclops was superior. Sure, it helps if you adjust contrast and brightness, but I didn't mind, I guess. I liked the Editdroid extra features, such as isolated sound, but superior sound and audio puts the Cowclops on top in my opinion.

VIDEO RATING: **** (Great job, but not quite a "5")

AUDIO RATING: ***** (PCM audio with Dolby Pro-Logic sounded exellent)

VIEWING EQUIPMENT: 32" Toshiba with component video to Yamaha DVD, optical audio to Yamaha HTR-5740 A/V reciever, 6.1 channel surround.
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Just read this thread for the first time. Interested to see Rik's comparitive review of 7 NTSC transfers. I must agree that on 4:3, Cowclops v1 beats Cowclops v2 - haven't checked them all out on 16:9 yet. IMHO, on 4:3, it's extremely close between Cowclops v1 and EditDroid for picture, the main differences being higher saturation/contrast in the former. It really comes down to your personal taste, just like the sound mix (turn it up for EditDroid). None of the others compare to these two (on 4:3).
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I will go ahead and chime in.

I have seen probably 12-15 different versions of Star Wars on DVD. I preferred Gonzos for the longest time since it was one of the few anamorphic releases.

Now, mother's is good but I have to give the best overall review to Citizen. The sound and picture quality were stunning.

His ANH DVD is simply amazing. I have a very high end theater (119" 16:9 screen, 720p DLP HDFP, 7.1, transducers, etc) and his transfer looks almost as good as a anamorphic retail DVD. I also reviewed it on my 65" 16:9 HDTV and it looks incredible.

My brother did not believe me until I made him a copy. He called me up that night and was also thrilled with how nice it looked. He thought it was going to be like former releases....

I have waited YEARS for a quality set to be released and that day has finally arrived. Hurry up with TESB and ROTJ!!!

I welcome other releases but this one will be very hard to beat. Until we get the originals in HD somehow!

Oh, I cannot compare it to other releases on a 4:3 set, as all of my TVs are now 16:9. Sorry!

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Originally posted by: DarkGruson

My system:


Wow, that looks like something out of MTV Cribs!

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