(The Mandalorian+BoBF) The Way of Mandalore | A New Mandalore Movie Saga (Final Update in Progress) — Page 13

I didn’t quite have the vision beforehand, but I do now. It sounds great.

Just looking over the remaining content if you go with that plan, the existing Boba content plus Grogu with Luke runs to about two hours. I think that makes a movie on its own. For the second one, I’d cover Pershing into the last few episodes of season three.

It’s certainly a very ambitious plan and works very well as story. The battle will be getting it to work on screen well enough for it not to be a distraction. It’ll also be a challenge to keep the small story beats from season 3 such as Din’s moments teaching Grogu.

I don’t have any experience with special effects so I couldn’t even contemplate this level of change. I’m intrigued to see how well you can pull it off. Good luck!

Thanks for the feedback, all! Seems pretty unanimous that the newly proposed story structure would be a great benefit if I can technically pull it off in a truly believeable way, and so far, I think I can.

I have been rolling ahead with this idea the last couple days and am currently about an hour into the new film. I have a couple VFX shots to go back and work on in that first hour (need to replace an approach to Tatooine with an approach to Nevarro, trying to swap out the planet backdrops), but a lot of that first hour is content that already doesn’t have Grogu from the Mando BoBF storylines. I have a working draft for early S3 Nevarro, and that wasn’t hard at all (Grogu is already missing from some of the scenes as I showed!), but now I’m into the nitty gritty of the Mines. It’s a lot of work, but I think it’s going well though. Modern editing tools are a great blessing and Grogu’s carrier is a near perfect shape to be able to track masks around. I’ll start sharing some demos of the VFX this week and uploading the clips to make sure the edits are “near invisible” as Peon wrote!

can’t wait to see the clips when they’re ready!

arabian said:

Unless I misunderstood, you’re making new versions of Book 1, 2, 3 and 4, along with eventually dropping these books, correct?

Let me clear up the update/release schedule on some of this stuff. Honestly, I’ll say this is up to you guys! In what order do you want me to work on these things?

1. TWoM Book 5: This is what I’m currently working on. I’m ~40% through editing this. Will cover the storyline from my previous post
2. TWoM Book 6: I already edited so much of Boba’s story from my previous Book 5, so this film is already more than halfway completed. It shouldn’t take too long to release since there will be a lot less removing Grogu from stuff.
3. TWoM Book 7: To complete the saga. Covers Din training as a young Mandalorian after coming back from Luke’s academy through the retaking of Mandalore. Haven’t even started on this aside from basic storyboarding.
4. Minor updates to Books 1-3 story: Touch ups to the first few films (Book 1 ending, IG-11 reconstruction scene moving, Book 2 change of pace between Boba and Din scenes, Book 3 altering Boba’s attempted ambush of Din, some other minor touch ups from Arabian’s feedback etc.)?
5. Updating Books 1-4 to 4k: This one is the monstrosity of a task. This is me manually going frame by frame with all new source footage to replace the crappy imports I had when I began this project in 2019. It will take a LONG time. It’s worth doing at some point for sure though.

(And while not directly related to TWoM, below are my other projects currently on hold that I intend to complete. The order in which I work on all this affects my TWoM releases, so again, maybe a few of you guys rank your interest in these projects and I’ll alter priority order for my projects)

6. Bad Batch film edits that pair with EddieDean’s TCW series
7. Legends Sequel Trilogy updates: Have been planning to update these for a while… been years since my last release and there’s a lot more I could do here. See my sig for links to each thread.
8. Legends Kenobi film: I’ve had this on pause for a while since I started talking with PixelJoker95 for his film, he’s doing something truly incredible with the VFX and re-editing and I’ve just been pitching in on his “shadow council” as a lore review guy. I definitely don’t want to release my edit before his comes out.
9. Episode 1: An Ancient Terror: My TPM re-edit, only got through the first couple scenes but have some cool ideas for it. Check out EddieDean’s Community Focus Thread. I’d try and bring a lot of that to life and add in my own ideas too.
10. Andor, the OT, Ahsoka, non-Star Wars series…? Anything else you’d like to see, go ahead and make a suggestion!

I think I’m gonna wait to watch Book 4, and 5 then because I want to rewatch the new versions of 1, 2 and 3 with any changes that we’re discussed. 😃

Well… Not sure yet how I’m planning on releasing it all, so I’d definitely say go ahead and watch the v3 Book 4 now, especially if you have any feedback for a future update. You’ll probably want to watch Book 5 right away when I release unless you all think I shold pause on that and move to something else.

Go ahead and rank those in terms of your personal interest and I’m open to shifting focus to what you all want to see next.

I personally think its best to release book 5 6 and 7 first in that order, as that seems like you were already planning on doing

Agreed. 567 and then a little feedback pass of the whole. Though I’d love to see what you can do with Bad Batch.

I found another case of Where’s Grogu? When Din gets captured:

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And then 2 seconds after that he is hiding behind a piece of rubble and cave wall that is not seen anywhere else -

It’s driving me crazy! You know me, always trying to fix the logical placement of where characters should be. I was able to perfectly correct a few minor mistakes in Seasons 1 & 2 but these are such obvious reshoot scenes or moved around shots that were never supposed to be placed there. It’s impossible to fix!

Thankfully, I’m already removing Grogu from all of this anyways and don’t have to worry about putting him IN where he should be on Nevarro & Mandalore.

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I’ll have some video previews of these Grogu-less mines ready in a few days.

Looks great, very exciting stuff going on here.

Thanks for all the feedback, I’ll stick to finishing up the final 3 TWoM films and then go back for the final touch-ups on each before going to Bad Batch. I’ll share a Book 5 update at the end of this post.

honestabe said:

• In terms of personal interest, I will join the apparent unanimous agreement to continue with The Way of Mandalore.

This is the way!

• With regard to other edits, I agree with your premise to wait for the PixelJoker edit of Kenobi. No purpose in having to go through duplicate efforts if you already know in advance you want to incorporate portions of his work.

For sure, he is bringing a ton of ideas I had to life through VFX work that is truly next level. Can’t wait for you all to be able to see it!

• Next up I would love updates to the sequel trilogy. A legends compliant version was what I always hoped these would be. I have been wanting to watch your current work prints, but other life matters kept getting in the way.

I’ve grown a lot as an editor since I started working on these 3 years ago. I think I’d be able to have some good updates for it.

• For TPM, do you have any specific ideas? My current favorite edit based on what has been released so far was Cloak of Deception. I am aware another editor is going through VFX enhancements. I still believe there were an avalanche of good ideas in that thread that would enhance the movie. I honestly would not know where to begin on that. However, I do know that somehow Dooku needs to be introduced in that movie.

Yeah, a lot of specific ideas but nothing I want to get into in this thread since it would be too off topic. One day I’ll make my own thread for this when I start working on it. The previously linked community thread has a lot of great discussion though.

• I see you threw in Ashoka. It is far too early at this juncture to discuss an edit, but I was thinking that perhaps those live action shots (to be determined) could somehow incorporate into Revenge of the Sith. While I think it is unlikely, it would be nice to have a non-animated Ashoka fit into the movie in some form.

Mainly threw it in since it’s somewhat tied to my TWoM series. I’m not sure how you’d get Ahsoka series shots to fit into RotS since she is much older in her live action apperances.

DarthMeme said:

Hey Acbagel, thanks for sharing your brilliant edit. I watched it with my family who hadn’t seen the Mandalorian and just wanted to share some thoughts and feedback.

Wow, another first time viewer through my edits! That’s so cool, thanks for sharing all this.

Book 1: Fantastically handled! The prisoner episode happening right after Din gives Grogu and moving the flashbacks was such a genius placement and felt much more emotional. Also love how you actually made the whistling birds rare. Great cuts and pacing throughout however few feedbacks; I noted down at roughly 1:38:55 there was a hiccup in the music audio.

Awesome, glad you liked those changes. The music hiccup comes from the droid corpse landing on the ground at nearly the exact same time as the music track, so it does have a kind of weird rhythm. I’ll make note and see if I can smooth that out any.

At 1:42:30 the jump to Kuiil felt jarring and random I think moving that after Din leaves the rock planet or move it to book 2 would be better.

Yep, definitely agree here! We discussed that a couple pages ago with others and that scene will be moving elsewhere.

Also maybe restore Greer’s survival scene, it felt like his setup of the beskar money in his jacket he showed Mando didn’t get paid off and got my family a little confused XD.

I will do this too. I actually moved it down the timeline by mistake and simply forgot to put it back in…

Book 2: Great thematically paralleled story, loved the build-up of Boba and Mando near encounters. Love how Boba felt more ruthless implying he was going to kill the Rodian! Great use of Kotor cantina music. And I love the decision to stay with Mando and find out the rookie bounty killed Fennic & I like how you implied Fennic already had the cybernetic stomach and Boba patched that up himself.

I’ll be making some new pacing/scene order changes here with some minor improvements, but it’s cool that this one worked out for you.

Book 3: Simply genius moving the New Republic glacier planet encounter after the shady desert planet without frog lady worked so much better. Only thing was at 14:09 I think I noticed the frog lady in that shot.

I love this opener too, one of my favorite changes in my whole saga. But you’re right! The frog is visible for a split second there, must have missed that. I’ll fix it.

Great placement of the Nevarro clone facility plotline, felt less fillery than the original. I do feel that Carson Tega’s Nevarro scene should’ve been moved right after Din leaves Nevarro so it doesn’t feel jarring and then move the Shadow Council scene right after.

Well the reason I moved this was because the chronology doesn’t really line up if the X-wings are immediately to Nevarro. It would take some time for those reports to get out and then their fleet to get there. Maybe it would work to go: Din leaves Nevarro, Shadow Council, Carson lands, Din arrives on Tatooine?

Speaking of which I love that you placed it there made Thrawn’s namedrop in Book 4 feel organic. Only thing is cut the references to Gideon needed Praetorian guards since we never see them till S3.

For sure, that was a main reason why I wanted the Shadow Council moved up. The Book 4 name drop is extremely out of nowhere without the setup, and I thought this discussion in the movie before would really help that feel cohesive and lead into the Ahsoka show. I suspect some of Ahsoka will take place during this time, so maybe there’s a world where I have an Ahsoka edit and you watch one of those films in the midst of my TWoM saga.

Also I love how you made Boba snipe Din that worked nicely though I think perhaps if you can change one of the hired goons line from “grab the child” to “grab the armour” to make it more obvious Boba hired them. Finally love the added music on Traask when Bo rescues Din.

That’s a great idea! That actually might fix this scene. Others had suggested to just have Boba look and then not interfere yet, but that voiceline might make Boba’s presence here feel more impactful. What do others think of that as a solution?

Book 4: Love the use of mix of trailer music in Ashoka’s intro. At 50:45 personally I’d cut Fennic’s line of “the outer rim is under new Republic jurisdiction” since they’re supposed to be in the deep core and I’m pretty sure the ship’s map showed that as well.

Ha! Nice catch, you’re right. Tython is indeed located in the Deep Core so why is she talking about the outer rim? Maybe I can get an AI voice line for Fennec to say “The Deep Core is under new Republic jurisdiction”?

Also at 58:43 I’d cut Mayfield mention of the little green guy, my family got confused to how he knew what Grogu looked like.

Ah, you’re the second one to mention that this line doesn’t feel right. In my mind, since Mayfeld only repeats what Cara just said about “The little green guy”, I intended it to come off as like “The little green guy? Wtf are you talking about?”, but there must be something about his tone and body language that makes people feel his familiarity rather than confusion. I probably will have to cut this if it isn’t communicating the right message.

I can’t wait to see what you got cooking for S3 and Book of Boba!

I’m working on it! This one is taking a LOT longer than normal because I’m doing some heavy VFX, but I promise everyone, I’m making progress! Let’s get some more previews here so you believe me. I have everything done in the Mines through Din getting captured. Now I’m onto Bo-Katan’s journey to rescue Din.

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So look at that, I’m actually doing it! I could spend an eternity trying to perfect each and every shot, but I do want this to come out eventually lol. Near invisible is the goal. There should be nothing distracting that draws your eyes away and makes you notice a bug. So go into this film with fresh eyes, with no preconceived notions that Grogu was ever here!

I like “grab the armour” a lot. You could use your own voice for that tbh, with a little distortion.

Excellent visual edits to remove Grogu from Mandalore.