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Chase Adams said:

Amazing, amazing stuff Nev! That arm reconstruction work is so seamless I had forgotten where the camera covered it up.

One thing I did notice that I should probably point out is that the little piece of metal that Han hangs the dice on seems to slide around quite a bit, might be a good idea to stabilise it in some way…

Definitely planning on it.

In regards to the face though, my suggestion for the simplest solution would probably be to just trim the clip and make do with a little bit of a loss of continuity between shots. Not sure how other people would feel about that though.

I feel like for such an important shot it should go as long as possible, as it’s the only one where we see the dice.

Anyway, I’ve updated the mockup to include the work on Han’s face and some scratches on the glass which will be toned down later.

https://vimeo.com/590342667

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The distortions on the face have literally given me a headache, so I’m calling it quits for now. It might be good enough if I put a bit of glare on the windshield near that spot, or it could be chalked up to distortion through the glass. What do you think?

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Wow! That’s a lot better than I expected to see in like 24 hours. I could see how maybe a little more work after a decent break and a fresh set of eyes could probably help, but I could see how putting some scratches or glare on that spot could help sell it. Either way, I think it is almost good to go.

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I agree with RogueLeader, a little light reflection or glare or whatever would definitely hide the imperfections of the face.

That new clip is still absolutely fantastic though, certainly as close to perfect as it ever could be given the limitations.

I’m definitely looking forward to seeing what you come up with to replace the background!

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NeverarGreat said:

  • The Jakku regrade is pushed about as far as I can take it without the washed out grade negatively affecting the explosions and skin tones and such, and so I’m pretty happy with it.

I see your point with the opening scene on Jakku being at night and having blaster fire, explosions, etc.

However, I put together a quick test using simple color masks to whiten the sand in a couple of the other scenes that do not take place at night. Not that this is necessarily the way you would want to go with this, but I was just curious to see if it might work.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YZhi7XyMgNcvXUdIe4hF2ltg3uOxobGa/view?usp=sharing

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That looks great! I would probably cut before the face morph if it can’t be fixed though.

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NeverarGreat said:

Oh masking every scene of Jakku would work, but is it worth the trouble for a subtle improvement? To me, not really.

Actually, I’m not sure you know what I mean. With the color mask tool I use, I basically can select certain colors for an entire scene and then easily change them. The test I ran (which I admit is very rough) only took me about two minutes.

Anyway, on to other things — the Han with the dice shot is really looking good. As I’ve said before, I can’t wait to see your finished edit!

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Oh, I thought you were physically masking out skin tones and fire and such.

Selective color is something that I use quite heavily in the Jakku grade, but even with fine control and selecting only certain hues at certain saturation/luminance levels it’s still really difficult to find settings that knock out the hues of the sand while leaving all of the skin tones and explosions, or at least enough to not look weird. In the end, I found that taking out all the color in the sand shadows would always play havoc with the skin tones, which is why I settled for settings that targeted mostly highlights and high midtones.

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Yeah, I could see how that would be challenging.

Anyway, I hope I didn’t come off as negatively critical. I think your work is great.

Best of luck going forward!

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Not at all, I’m happy to get feedback on the work 😃

I’ve put the Dice scene into the edit, though there remains work to do on that front. Overall however the edit is shaping up and the color grade in in place. I’m pretty pleased with it, but there remain some things still to do, a few miscellaneous notes for small tweaks. The changes are small enough that I’m hoping to get it done pretty quickly and have a final render here after…(checks notes)…four and a half years.

But seriously, I’m running out of things to tinker with, so if anybody finds another deleted scene that must be included, kindly don’t let me know 😉

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Could somebody show me a clip of this Jakku regrade the front page is talking about?

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The Galaxy of Sounds: Connections episode has the Han in the Falcon cockpit scene with just sound effects, which would be perfect for the rescored Dice scene if anyone has access to it.

JEDIT: Also updated the dice background for continuity with the rest of the scene.

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How convenient! I was wondering if we would get scenes that would be useful to any editing endeavors. Sort of serendipitous that this just dropped right in the middle of you working on that scene.

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Awesome!

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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NeverarGreat said:

JEDIT: Also updated the dice background for continuity with the rest of the scene.

Looking really good Nev! 😮

Just curious, any particular reason for changing the cropping of the shot? Seems a little more zoomed…

Also I wonder if the Falcon’s hull should be shadowed/tinted the slightest bit more, I feel like with this new background being somewhat darker the ship blends with the environment a tiny bit less. I dunno, just the first thing that came to mind.

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Lookin’ good!! It’s really starting to blend well now

One thing, in the wide shot the big lights in the back of the cockpit are more white compared to the blueish color in the surrounding shots. Perhaps those could be brought more in line? Looks like that shot could use some blue in the highlights overall. 😃

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Greetings, exalted one. I have been looking at this project for a while, but have only now decided to post about it. The Force Awakens is my favorite movie in The Sequel Trilogy. I feel like it has the best story, best action, and best acting. It’s for sure better than the TLJ and TROS. As of lately, I’ve been thinking a lot about sequel edits and what I would do with the sequels, if ever edited them. I have to say those color corrected shots look really good and almost look like shots from the OT. I have also seen some of your ideas for this project, like adding back in the deleted scene with Han in the Cockpit with the Dice. I would definitely like a link to this project. Being that it’s in a workprint stage actually makes me really happy for the future of this project. As one great man would say, “We will watch your career with great interest.”

“I am a Jedi, like my father before me.”

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NeverarGreat said:

Thank you! The project is nearing completion so there are just minor things to do now, but regardless, PM sent!

That’s good news Nev, looking forward to seeing the final version

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Chase Adams said:

NeverarGreat said:

JEDIT: Also updated the dice background for continuity with the rest of the scene.

Looking really good Nev! 😮

Just curious, any particular reason for changing the cropping of the shot? Seems a little more zoomed…

Also I wonder if the Falcon’s hull should be shadowed/tinted the slightest bit more, I feel like with this new background being somewhat darker the ship blends with the environment a tiny bit less. I dunno, just the first thing that came to mind.

Perhaps so. I’ll take another look at it.

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One thing, in the wide shot the big lights in the back of the cockpit are more white compared to the blueish color in the surrounding shots. Perhaps those could be brought more in line? Looks like that shot could use some blue in the highlights overall. 😃

That’s something I’ve noticed, and actually tried to pull the lights to blue but it just wasn’t working at the time. I’ll give it another go. 😃

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Apologies if I missed anything in the thread about this, but was there ever any interest expressed in adding the ‘Finn and the villager’ back into the film?

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21C Peasant said:

I did a little mock-up to see how the colors might be brought more in line.

Just an idea.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1m2jHIR9q99MmBVpyLCqNupym-pf7Jv1B/view?usp=sharing

Looks good! I’ll try for that.

Chase Adams said:

Apologies if I missed anything in the thread about this, but was there ever any interest expressed in adding the ‘Finn and the villager’ back into the film?

Yeah, I was thinking about it for a while but I found it was very tricky to include. If it’s included as-is, the score would need to be lengthened and it also messes with the flow of the scene. And if it’s included as-is, then it isn’t really adding anything that his later refusal to fire doesn’t cover.

The only reason to add the scene in my eyes would be to serve as a replacement for the moment when Finn reacts to his dying comrade so that the implication isn’t made that he has a special concern for their welfare. However, that’s where he gets the streak of blood on his helmet so the moment would have to be altered and not removed, presumably to add a dying villager in place of the trooper. That would be my ideal solution, but it is probably outside of my abilities to accomplish and again serves to make the Finn and villager scene redundant.

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