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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS ** — Page 129

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I’ll always remember the fervor in his speech or how he got put on hush mouth by Kylo. I bet he was glad to see Kylo in his state after his bout with Rey.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

thelionslicer said:

In The Hunger Games the villain is called President Snow and he’s very mustache twirling and evil. I’m not 100% sure but I think he literally drank blood for some reason

Nope. He bled from the mouth.

(I’m not sure Hunger Games is kind of stupid).

I almost agree with you. The first movie’s okay, and the first sequel’s very good. Everything starts coming apart with the third movie.

FTFM, and it’s also the same way for the books.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

MalàStrana said:

SAD BEEP

(and from a Stranger things fan, I don’t really mind…)

Don’t like Stranger Things? May Eleven give you a telekinetically-induced bowel movement.

Must admit I was bored to death after 3 episodes. But the cinematographer did a great job, it was nice to watch but quite pointless. Not a very bad tvseries, just not very good imoh (I would give it 4 or 5/10). The fact I’ve discoved Freak & Geeks a few weeks prior to watching Stranger Things didn’t help. As it usually happens, I concur with Hulk on this one (http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/08/31/the-strange-motivations-of-stranger-things).

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Tyrphanax said:

MalàStrana said:

Tyrphanax said:

Frank your Majesty said:

MalàStrana said:

doubleofive said:

I actually laughed in the theater when he takes his mask off to reveal that he’s just some bratty kid. It’s a fantastic moment, gives you the exact impression of him that you’re supposed to have: he’s a wannabe who has very little idea what he’s doing.

I strongly agree. The only difference is that you think this is brillant while I believe it ruins the main menace… and the story as a whole. In ANH Tarkin and Vader are cold and intelligent; in TFA their “young versions” Hux and Ren are so childish that I never believe in the First Order. I just don’t buy it.

“I hate TFA, it’s such a rehash. Also, the main villains are not like Tarkin or Vader, which is also bad.”

I kinda feel like this is what a lot of the arguments against the Disney-era films boil down to.

That’s because you don’t understand my point. Rehash or not, you’ve got to make good villains, which are severely lacking in TFA. Hux/Ren is obviously a Tarkin/Vader rehash for kids (Harry Potter/Hunger Games generation), and a lame rehash, which does not work. Like the plot is an OT rehash, and a lame rehash. Hux reminds me of the villain in Die Hard 4. Hux actor also sucks in his part (powerful speech ? Seriously guys…).

Snoke is a pretty decent evil menace, I thought. Hux is a decent fanatical military officer (not like Tarkin at all) and I’m not sure Kylo is even a villain. He does evil things, but I think there’s enough depth to his character that we might see a change of heart.

Yep I hear you about Snoke, but so far he’s just a Palpatine-bis who basically gives the key of his army to Ren (a still not fully trained and reliable dark side force user) and Hux (a 30 yo kid who does not seem to really know what he’s doing except that he’s driven by a fierce hatred towards the New Republic for reasons we never get to know… or is he just evil because he’s evil, like Palpatine ?) so he’s not that menacing for me, as part of the audience, to care about (or to feel something about that). Ok they destroy the New Republic Headquarters but since we never really know what’s at stake it does not really work (at least for me). In ANH when Tarkin destoys Alderaan we don’t know anything that important to care about this planet, but we care about Leia, Luke and Ben, so we care about Alderaan. If you add one or two scenes to know a few things about the Hosnian system (and I know they did shot scenes they deleted from the final cut), it could have worked. Or even show Leia leaving this planet a few minutes prior its destruction, in order to give a sense of urgency ? Sadly it’s something I need to guess when I watch the movie, not something that’s shown, not even something that’s told.

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(are you trying to be funny ? You should leave that to others…)

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No, I was being serious. My little sister didn’t like it for the same reasons. Makes sense considering she’s a teenager.

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Your little sis wants to see boobs everywhere ?

Anyway, I’ve posted an analysis of the show I concur with. It’s little more to handle than “boobs/sex, killing and explosions”, so I wouldn’t recommend you read it, it may be far too complex for you I’m afraid.

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MalàStrana said:

Your little sis wants to see boobs everywhere ?

I changed “boobs” to “sex” in my other post because we don’t actually boobs in Season One. We saw someone in a bra but that’s not the same.

And yes, sex is a requirement for her to enjoy a piece of entertainment. If the show doesn’t depict one of those things in an Episode she’s not fucking with it. And when it comes to shows like Breaking Bad she only liked it because there was drugs and killing in it; not because of the characters or the writing.

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And yes, sex is a requirement for her to enjoy a piece of entertainment.

Ok, but what does it have to do with me ? My brother liked the show, so… what’s the relevance here ?

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MalàStrana said:

Anyway, I’ve posted an analysis of the show I concur with. It’s little more to handle than “books, killing and explosions”, so I wouldn’t recommend you read it, it may be far too complex for you I’m afraid.

I would prefer to avoid it so that later concepts aren’t top complex for me due to the article killing a plethora of my brain cells. I don’t even want to know how far and wide this man stretched to discredit the show but judging by some of his points about TFA I would say he probably stretched quite far.

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MalàStrana said:

And yes, sex is a requirement for her to enjoy a piece of entertainment.

Ok, but what does it have to do with me ? My brother liked the show, so… what’s the relevance here ?

Is your brother of a similar age? The relevance here is that a lot of youngins don’t watch things for plot and characters. Stranger Things is a show that primarly based on strong characters, how they interact with each other and the mystery of what’s going down in Hawkins. I can see why someone like you wouldn’t like that too too much.

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Lord Haseo said:
The relevance here is that a lot of youngins don’t watch things for plot and characters.

Your sister and people like her might not, but there are plenty of young people who value good plots and good characters (as best as they can understand them, anyway).

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Alderaan said:

Lord Haseo said:
The relevance here is that a lot of youngins don’t watch things for plot and characters.

Wrong. Your sister and people like her might not, but there are plenty of young people who value good plots and good characters (as best as they can understand them, anyway).

That’s why I used “a lot” rather than “most” for those who do value plot and characters. My mother and my oldest cousin were like that.

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Stranger Things is quite childish oriented, like The Goonies, so I’m afraid I don’t see your point. You thought it was a dark and strong characters driven series ? Well, think again. SPOILER ALERT Everydody survives, everything is in order at the end, even the “might be dead” character is implied to be alive. And most of the interactions don’t work at all. Again it’s not a terrible series, just it’s average/mediocre. Maybe too long (8 episodes to tell such a thin story…). That’s being said I still don’t get why you’re talking about youngins/teenage audiences.

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MalàStrana said:

Stranger Things is quite childish oriented, like The Goonies, so I’m afraid I don’t see your point.

That’s but one part of the show and secondly when I talk about age or maturity I’m not talking about the show.

You thought it was a dark and strong characters driven series ?

Never said anything about it being dark…

Well, think again. SPOILER ALERT Everydody survives

WRONG…just think about it for a second.

everything is in order at the end

Last scene says otherwise.

And most of the interactions don’t work at all

Elaborate please. Preferably with somewhat of an original thought.

Maybe too long (8 episodes to tell such a thin story…)

7 would have been perfect.

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Well I can’t remove that from my “E-History” or from my mind. I’m glad I made such an effort a few months ago to avoid videos like that.