The Force Awakens : Fan Edit Ideas — Page 10

I disagree with a good 75% of your post. Maybe more.

The one that made me laugh was the crawl one. I guess you haven’t seen ROTS.

TV’s Frink said:
The one that made me laugh was the crawl one. I guess you haven’t seen ROTS.

Hum… yep, I can agree on this one: so it’s a share title. Both have lame opening scrawl.

So it’s still a 25% agreement 😃 Better than nothing ! I’m pretty sure when the hype goes down people will start to think that TFA is not that great (it happened before… like… 4 times…). On the other hand, I wouldn’t mind to change my view when the last 2 installments get released (“Ok, I get it now, it’s awesome”, I doubt that but I would be so happy to have been wrong).

suspiciouscoffee said:

Now that I think about it, the only thing (or at least, the first thing) I’d really want to change (if I had the software, time, or know-how to do such things) is the colors. Teal and orange was prominent in many scenes (as with most modern movies), which was especially noticeable upon second viewing. Unless my eyes are being weird and I’m seeing things that aren’t there (which has happened before).

Your eyes might be weird. Colors are pretty natural throughout. Didn’t notice an orange shift anywhere, though the First Order interiors often had a teal look due to the lighting. If you want you could pretty easily remove that, but I’m not sure why. There’s nothing inherently wrong with teal and orange.

MalàStrana said:
If possible it would be cool to remove the inappropriate and unfunny humor (especially during Poe/Ren scenes)

Even Reti4 liked that…

the ridiculous “fan service” elements “oh, you’re General Han Solo !”

Did you miss the point of that interaction? Rey believes that Han was a smuggler and Finn believes he was a General. It established that where you live in the Galaxy determines what your view on history is. It’s not fanservice at all; it’s something we call world building.

and most of “Jar Jar” Finn characterisation (this character is so stupid… why isn’t he killed ?)

This has the sweaty smell of 4chan all over it.

The same goes with the line establishing that stormtroopers are conditioned kids who hence don’t join the Empire by choice.

Why? Just why?

his terrible line “Chewie, we are home” is also something to definitely cut

I mean I have problems with the film and in general I tend to nitpick but you’re trying way WAY too hard to find faults with the film

Saddly it seems impossible to cut the terrible “Rey’s Jedi Mind Trick found in your magic pocket because the script needs you to use it now” scene

Can’t you kids wait until Rey’s full origins are reveled before jumping to conclusions? Is that too much to ask for?

Most of Kylo Donald Duck Ren characterisation should also be removed in order to let the main villain look like a real threat and not a whining piece of shit kid who’s mad a his parents for grounding him.

Very potent meme my friend.

On a serious note Kylo Ren’s violent outbursts distinguishes him from every Dark Sider we’ve seen thus far and makes perfect sense considering he hasn’t completed his training in the Dark Side so he wouldn’t know how to reserve his anger for times it can be used more effectively. Furthermore, his outbursts makes him seem more unpredictable which adds a level of fear that can’t be attributed to the cold and calculating Darth Vader.

The deleted scene explaining the political background really needs to be reinstalled.

I have been purposefully avoiding any details on the deleted scenes until I saw them in person but if a scene such as this was deleted it needs to be reimplemented into the film for sure.

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:
The one that made me laugh was the crawl one. I guess you haven’t seen ROTS.

Hum… yep, I can agree on this one: so it’s a share title. Both have lame opening scrawl.

I’m pretty sure when the hype goes down people will start to think that TFA is not that great

It’s been 2 months dude. The hype has gone down and a lot of people still like it. Stop projecting.

MrToad883 said:

Only thing I would change is adding in the 20th century fox logo/fanfare at beginning. The rest was just what was needed to restart this franchise.

Yep, the opening felt far too abrupt without the good ol 20th Century Fox intro.

I had a bit of a half baked idea a while back (can’t remember if I or anyone else mentioned it.)

Main goal is to remove the ‘doomsday weapon’ subplot - and make STARKILLER base just a regular base.

So the film proceeds as normal to the point where Han/Chewie/Finn are rescued by the Rebels as normal. The STARKILLER bits at this point are cut out.

Han/Chewie/Finn then intentionally go after Rey as a rescue mission (as oppose to a side objective). They might get the information from Leia for the location of the base. I’d cut the planetary shield subplot (so no interrogation of Phasma or dropping out of Lightspeed)

Biggest plot hole would be WHY do they go to the facility to drop bombs? Could it be cut so its just part of their route back? Or could there be some alternative purpose? Maybe the rebels were planning an attack on some cloning facility or something like that?

An unrelated idea - was have Han call out to Kylo Ren whilst he carries off Rey. I thought this might start Kylo Ren’s doubt and fretting as oppose to reveal it rather flatly with Snoke.

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:
If possible it would be cool to remove the inappropriate and unfunny humor (especially during Poe/Ren scenes)

Even Reti4 liked that…

Then ? If you like your main vilain in a movie be ridiculous in the opening scene (à la Grievous…), that’s your call.

the ridiculous “fan service” elements “oh, you’re General Han Solo !”

Did you miss the point of that interaction? Rey believes that Han was a smuggler and Finn believes he was a General. It established that where you live in the Galaxy determines what your view on history is. It’s not fanservice at all; it’s something we call world building.

I call it lame dialogues, and it builds absolutely nothing for any character involved in it (Finn’s backstory is already well established). It’s tv series storytelling, and I hate that.

and most of “Jar Jar” Finn characterisation (this character is so stupid… why isn’t he killed ?)

This has the sweaty smell of 4chan all over it.

Gné ?

The same goes with the line establishing that stormtroopers are conditioned kids who hence don’t join the Empire by choice.

Why? Just why?

Because it’s stupid and it removes the political depth of the First Order, which is just a weird Borg collective/body snatchers threat. Soviets and nazis believed in something, First Order stormtroopers believe in… nothing (well, they believe in the speech of a 30 yo ginger with non charisma, so I guess all stormtroopers and First Order officers are moron : so the main threats of the movie are… morons…).

his terrible line “Chewie, we are home” is also something to definitely cut

I mean I have problems with the film and in general I tend to nitpick but you’re trying way WAY too hard to find faults with the film

Not really: when one of your favorite character is introduced in such a lame way, I’m not nitpicking at all. Are people nitpicking about Anakin’s deep knowledge of sand ? Tell me.

Saddly it seems impossible to cut the terrible “Rey’s Jedi Mind Trick found in your magic pocket because the script needs you to use it now” scene

Can’t you kids wait until Rey’s full origins are reveled before jumping to conclusions? Is that too much to ask for?

There is no point in waiting: the movie is very clear about Rey. It’s lazy and it’s tv series storytelling at its worse, but with the flashback and what is said about Rey by Snoke and Maz I think everyone can understand she had some kind of Jedi training when she was 5 or 6 yo… (younglings are back !). The scene is just a complete failure, deux ex machina using Jedi Mind trick very conveniently. She’s so powerful she does not even need to use her hands like other Jedi had to (“New Chosen One full abilities unlocked”… faceplam powa…).

But the scene cannot be removed. Rey is the worst main character ever written in the saga, nothing can save her. Perhaps the screenwriter of Ep VIII & IX can manage to dosomething with this very weak material (I really hope so).

Most of Kylo Donald Duck Ren characterisation should also be removed in order to let the main villain look like a real threat and not a whining piece of shit kid who’s mad a his parents for grounding him.

Very potent meme my friend.

On a serious note Kylo Ren’s violent outbursts distinguishes him from every Dark Sider we’ve seen thus far and makes perfect sense considering he hasn’t completed his training in the Dark Side so he wouldn’t know how to reserve his anger for times it can be used more effectively. Furthermore, his outbursts makes him seem more unpredictable which adds a level of fear that can’t be attributed to the cold and calculating Darth Vader.

IMHO the guy looks like a dick when he does his donald duck things. There is even a joke to make fun of him when he does that (again, no vilain in this movie is taken seriously by anyone). It’s sad because the actor is good and his scene with Han Solo is strong, but this character is layered with teen movie characterization (tv series storytelling… again…).

The deleted scene explaining the political background really needs to be reinstalled.

I have been purposefully avoiding any details on the deleted scenes until I saw them in person but if a scene such as this was deleted it needs to be reimplemented into the film for sure.

There seems to be a scene involving Leia. Let’s hope it ends up to be a finished scene in the bonus section.

edit:

And did I mention the awful “Who’s the boss now ?” ? Glorious Finn, again… “Do you have a boyfriend” stuff is also painful.

Damn… the more I think about this movie the more I believe it’s a failure… “A new disappointment”… Good thing Jar Jar Abrams is not going to make VIII (but the director of “Jurassic World” on IX, seriously, do you have any ambitions Disney ?).

MalàStrana said:

Lord Haseo said:

MalàStrana said:
If possible it would be cool to remove the inappropriate and unfunny humor (especially during Poe/Ren scenes)

Even Reti4 liked that…

Then ? If you like your main vilain in a movie be ridiculous in the opening scene (à la Grievous…), that’s your call.

Elaborate please. It seems as though you’re saying stuff is bad and not even giving a reason for it. Bosk and Smoking Lizard at least tried to give rationales to some of their more “out there” opinions.

I call it lame dialogues, and it builds absolutely nothing for any character involved in it (Finn’s backstory is already well established). It’s tv series storytelling, and I hate that.

It’s not doing so much with the characters as it is building the world in which the story takes place. That’s the point of the interaction

Because it’s stupid and it removes the political depth of the First Order

I’m not sure what the shit that is supposed to mean but it makes them seem more haneous and it gives a disturbing parallel to how the Jedi used to get their chosen students

Soviets and nazis believed in something, First Order stormtroopers believe in… nothing

They believe in the ideals of The Empire…because they’re a remnant of The Empire…I’m starting to think you’re a troll.

Not really: when one of your favorite character is introduced in such a lame way, I’m not nitpicking at all.

“Chewie, we’re home” is as appropriate of a line as it gets but whatever.

There is no point in waiting

Yes there is. It’s called having all of the facts before rendering judgement. I know the meme culture frowns upon that but way back when that’s what a majority of people did.

I think everyone can understand she had some kind of Jedi training when she was 5 or 6 yo

If they go down the Darth Revan mind wiping route from Knights of The Old Republic her being left as a child could be a false memory. She could have been left on Jakku when she was much older. But I’m going to wait before I even form an opinion

Rey is the worst main character ever written in the saga

How did you forget about Ani so fast? Also again you’re being premature. We’ve gotten an entire trilogy with Luke and Anakin and we’ve gotten only 1/3 of one with Rey. If we were to based our opinions on Luke in ANH alone most people would look at him with disdain.

IMHO the guy looks like a dick when he does his donald duck things

I think that’s the point but sure.

There is even a joke to make fun of him when he does that

If you were one of those Storm Troopers you probably would have left too. I know I would have.

but this character is layered with teen movie characterization

Elaboration needed…again.

“Who’s the boss now ?”

I’d remove that line. Makes him seem kind of like a spaz but then again there’s room for his character to grow.

“Do you have a boyfriend” stuff is also painful.

He probably has never flirted with a girl before in his life…what else would you expect?

It’s a waste of time to discuss TFA with anyone who thinks Rey is the worst main character ever written in the saga.

suspiciouscoffee said:

DominicCobb said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Now that I think about it, the only thing (or at least, the first thing) I’d really want to change (if I had the software, time, or know-how to do such things) is the colors. Teal and orange was prominent in many scenes (as with most modern movies), which was especially noticeable upon second viewing. Unless my eyes are being weird and I’m seeing things that aren’t there (which has happened before).

Your eyes might be weird. Colors are pretty natural throughout. Didn’t notice an orange shift anywhere, though the First Order interiors often had a teal look due to the lighting. If you want you could pretty easily remove that, but I’m not sure why. There’s nothing inherently wrong with teal and orange.

I swear the stars behind the crawl looked blue. The rest of the stars looked fine to me, but the first stars just looked blue to me.

It still isn’t inherently bad, in fact I think it looks pretty good. I’d just want it to better fit the OT. It really is, for the most part, the First Order interiors, like you said. This is about what I had in mind (taken from a youtube video I found):

If you don’t like it and want to get rid of it, that’s totally fair. But it’s definitely an in-universe lighting thing - in the scene that pic comes from we see the lights flicker on in that teal color, off, and on again in a natural color.

What’s the point in replying in this thread if you think this movie is perfect ? I really wonder… SW fans are really the worst (along with Zack Snyder fans 😃). Praising so much a 2 hours SW-Disney commercial, well… you’ve got what you were asking for (2015 was such a shitty cinematographic year: Jurassic World, Terminator 5, Star Wars 7… only Miller did it well with Mad Max 4. But the man has talent and knows how to write and direct a mythological movie…). So let’s change the thread title : “TFA is fucking awesome. No edit ideas because it’s so fucking perfect I would even have sex with the blu ray set”.

@ dkeighobadi
If you don’t know where to begin with, just… don’t… i’m not asking anything to you.

MalàStrana said:

What’s the point in replying in this thread if you think this movie is perfect ? I really wonder… SW fans are really the worst (along with Zack Snyder fans 😃).

Lord Haseo said: I mean I have problems with the film and in general I tend to nitpick but you’re trying way WAY too hard to find faults with the film

Just going to leave this here…

SW fans are really the worst

Ironically the traits you’ve exhibited ITT are why we’re hated.

MalàStrana said:
“TFA is fucking awesome. No edit ideas beacuse it’s so fucking perfect I would even have sex with the blu ray set”.

I apologize for calling you a troll earlier because I have seen the light. You’re not a troll; you’re most likely a teenager. The general lack of forethought before spewing nonsensical “points” was an indication but this is more damning evidence. I’ve even debated with a lot of people in your age group about Star Wars on youtube (I guess you can say mine too because I’m only 21) and the way in which you carry yourselves is so similar it’s depressing.

TV’s Frink said:

It’s a waste of time to discuss TFA with anyone who thinks Rey is the worst main character ever written in the saga.

Having sex with the Blu-ray set sounds painful.

dkeighobadi said:

TV’s Frink said:

You are giving the other teenagers here a bad name.

I’m 17, so how dare you LordHaseo.

I couldn’t even tell. Keep doing you 😉