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The Fall of the Jedi Trilogy (Released) — Page 9

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MalàStrana said:

Just to clear something up, in order to lessen any disappointment: Anakin’s fall to the dark side will never be really believable with the available material.

I disagree.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

MalàStrana said:

Just to clear something up, in order to lessen any disappointment: Anakin’s fall to the dark side will never be really believable with the available material.

I disagree.

I don’t.

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Well, in either case, it’s rude to just walk into a random thread and say “Yeah, this story you’re trying to fix. Yeah, it sucks. You might be able to make it suck very slightly less, but it still sucks. Have a nice day.”

The guy says he just created an account, and some random noob walks in and says “But why?!?”

Jerk.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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You seem to have issues in understanding other people messages… As for the insult, I won’t even bother to comment it. But, yeah, have a nice day !

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Wow, losing the “what have I done?” REALLY helps that scene in RotS.

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Little Nemo said:

Wow, losing the “what have I done?” REALLY helps that scene in RotS.

You really think so ? Because only 5 minutes later Anakin has no second thoughts killing Jedi (and kids !) in the Temple. The “what have I done?” line has however a meta value, with Lucas expressing himself through Anakin 😃

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MalàStrana said:

Little Nemo said:

Wow, losing the “what have I done?” REALLY helps that scene in RotS.

You really think so ? Because only 5 minutes later Anakin has no second thoughts killing Jedi (and kids !) in the Temple.

Well yeah, that’s the whole problem with it. If he’s gonna suddenly be bad (which is another failure, btw), he should not be regretting it in advance just five minutes prior! Not to mention the fact that he says the line, and then two seconds later pledges his allegiance to the dark side. So, yeah, what have you done? Said a line that was a complete throwaway. It was nothing more than Lucas trying to show a complex character and having no clue how to do it. That’s not how you show internal conflict, George.

The PT took one of the greatest movie villains ever and made him a whiny baby. “What have I done?” my ass. OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.

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TV’s Frink said:
OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.

Maybe in the next cut for the 4k blu ray: in ESB, instead of “all too easy” we’ll hear “what have I done ?”. He shall even say that line every time he does something bad in the OT. So, inconsistency fixed !

I still don’t buy how Anakin turns to the dark side, but at least with those terrible lines removed it looks less silly. What would be a great helper is an alternate shot where he does not cry after Windu’s death.

I wonder if it possible to edit the scene so he would just walk into the office and instantly help Palpatine by cutting Windu’s hand (just after he delivers the “you can’t” and “i need him” lines, with “he must stand trial” removed), and not sit afterwards but would rather stand and discuss with Palpatine their next move. So all the “dark side knighting” part of the scene should be removed, it would be implied that he is already Sidious apprentice since an off screen scene that would take place just after the Palpatine reveal (the “power to save Padmé” scene). Not sur it would work with the available material though.

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MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:
OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.

Maybe in the next cut for the 4k blu ray: in ESB, instead of “all too easy” we’ll hear “what have I done ?”. He shall even say that line every time he does something bad in the OT. So, inconsistency fixed !

Please post that idea here and I’ll give you credit when I use it.

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-IV-A-Ridiculous-Hope/id/15697

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MalàStrana said:

Little Nemo said:

Wow, losing the “what have I done?” REALLY helps that scene in RotS.

You really think so ? Because only 5 minutes later Anakin has no second thoughts killing Jedi (and kids !) in the Temple. The “what have I done?” line has however a meta value, with Lucas expressing himself through Anakin 😃

“You don’t know the power of the Dark Side. I must obey my master.” -Vader in ROTJ

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:
OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.

I wonder if it possible to edit the scene so he would just walk into the office and instantly help Palpatine by cutting Windu’s hand (just after he delivers the “you can’t” and “i need him” lines, with “he must stand trial” removed), and not sit afterwards but would rather stand and discuss with Palpatine their next move. So all the “dark side knighting” part of the scene should be removed

I’m pretty sure this is the way it’s cut here.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:
OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.

I wonder if it possible to edit the scene so he would just walk into the office and instantly help Palpatine by cutting Windu’s hand (just after he delivers the “you can’t” and “i need him” lines, with “he must stand trial” removed), and not sit afterwards but would rather stand and discuss with Palpatine their next move. So all the “dark side knighting” part of the scene should be removed

I’m pretty sure this is the way it’s cut here.

Not at all (I happen to have the Fall of the Jedi trilogy on my laptop so I’ve checked to be sure). Perhaps I’m not very clear in the description I’m trying to do.

Here is what I mean (I use screenshots to better explain):

(1) Windu and Palpatine fight and Palpatine seems defeated

(2) Anakin arrives
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/916818shotanakinarrives.png

(3) Windu is about to kill Palpatine (for this scene you actually need Hal’s or L8’s edits in fact, with trimmed dialogues)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/791766shotwindu.png

Windu: “He’s too dangerous to be kept alive”
Anakin: “You can’t”

(4) Anakin cuts Windu’s hand:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/698648shotanakincutshand.png

(5) Palpatine does his “unlimited power” stuff
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/140622shotunlimitedpower.png

(6) “torn apart” by his decision, Anakin sits and his saber falls (well, it is impossible to cut the sitting, and in fact it’s not that annoying)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/526081shotPalpatinerises.png

(7) Yoda feels a massive vergence in the Force
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/154432shotYoda.png

(8) Palpatine says “rise” to Anakin (you remove all the knighting scene, “i pledge myself, etc”)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/716077shotAnakinrises.png

(9) as he walks away, you can put a line calling Anakin Darth Vader (there is room to do that, because no one speaks in this shot and we don’t see Palpatine lips. Added lines can be: “a powerful sith you’ll become, Darth Vader” - edit : this particular idea would not fit in Q2’s edit, because the point is to keep secrets)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/489275shotPapatinewalksaway.png

(10) Palpatine is putting his new clothes and explains their next move to Anakin.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/966522shotpalpatineplots.png

That way, you get rid of every close up on Anakin’s face where he’s crying or seems sad/upset. If I find enough time and skill I’ll try to make that edit (I’m really not sure I can do someting well polished, just thinking about it, it might not work at all).

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Hi all,

Just joined to give some praise to Q2’s edits! Just watched I and II and enjoyed the hell out them. I haven’t been able to get Episode III so if anyone would be so kind to PM, it would be much appreciated!

Thanks to all of the editors for the hard work.

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MalàStrana said:

chyron8472 said:

MalàStrana said:

TV’s Frink said:
OT Vader doesn’t ask stupid questions like that.

I wonder if it possible to edit the scene so he would just walk into the office and instantly help Palpatine by cutting Windu’s hand (just after he delivers the “you can’t” and “i need him” lines, with “he must stand trial” removed), and not sit afterwards but would rather stand and discuss with Palpatine their next move. So all the “dark side knighting” part of the scene should be removed

I’m pretty sure this is the way it’s cut here.

Not at all (I happen to have the Fall of the Jedi trilogy on my laptop so I’ve checked to be sure). Perhaps I’m not very clear in the description I’m trying to do.

Here is what I mean (I use screenshots to better explain):

(1) Windu and Palpatine fight and Palpatine seems defeated

(2) Anakin arrives
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/916818shotanakinarrives.png

(3) Windu is about to kill Palpatine (for this scene you actually need Hal’s or L8’s edits in fact, with trimmed dialogues)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/791766shotwindu.png

Windu: “He’s too dangerous to be kept alive”
Anakin: “You can’t”

(4) Anakin cuts Windu’s hand:
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/698648shotanakincutshand.png

(5) Palpatine does his “unlimited power” stuff
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/140622shotunlimitedpower.png

(6) “torn apart” by his decision, Anakin sits and his saber falls (well, it is impossible to cut the sitting, and in fact it’s not that annoying)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/526081shotPalpatinerises.png

(7) Yoda feels a massive vergence in the Force
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/154432shotYoda.png

(8) Palpatine says “rise” to Anakin (you remove all the knighting scene, “i pledge myself, etc”)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/716077shotAnakinrises.png

(9) as he walks away, you can put a line calling Anakin Darth Vader (there is room to do that, because no one speaks in this shot and we don’t see Palpatine lips. Added lines can be: “a powerful sith you’ll become, Darth Vader” - edit : this particular idea would not fit in Q2’s edit, because the point is to keep secrets)
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/489275shotPapatinewalksaway.png

(10) Palpatine is putting his new clothes and explains their next move to Anakin.
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/966522shotpalpatineplots.png

That way, you get rid of every close up on Anakin’s face where he’s crying or seems sad/upset. If I find enough time and skill I’ll try to make that edit (I’m really not sure I can do someting well polished, just thinking about it, it might not work at all).

This is actually a very cool idea! You should give it a go, sounds cool

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Any chance somebody could pm me a link to download FotJ bd25?

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Hello everyone!

I have heard such wonderful things about this particular fan edit, but am also having a really hard time finding it. Could anyone please point me in the right direction of the BD25s? The AVCHDs would be more than fine also, if the former is not possible.

Thank you in advance for any help!

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Yep, so what’s current best link location for watching the Q2 prequels?

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Could somebody send me some kind of link for these please? I’ve heard great things and would love to see them.