Bingowings said:
What's racist about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????????????????
Next you'll be saying Darth Maul is racist against black and red skinned people with bad teeth and horns.
A yellow-skinned samuel l jackson is racist because it is pointing out that he is a black guy with brown colored skin; whoever wrote that (forgot the user's name) was making a racistl joke.......
TV's Frink said:
Father Skywalker said:
I apologize if my extreme punctuation annoys you or anybody else too, it's is just an OCD habit; if it gets annoying I'll will stop it.........
Did he survive the explosion of the second death star or not???
a) It's annoying - please stop
b) Of course he didn't survive. It blew up. You know what happens when something blows up? Everything ends.
xhonzi said:
And then the DSIII blows up.
THE /END.
Yes, but how do you know that moff tiaan jerjerrod was on it when it blew up?? Remember that the guys were evacuating on it at the ending; nothing ever confirmed whether or not grand moff tiaan jerjjerod escaped!!!!
Im gradually trying to cut down on the punctuation thing......
Father Skywalker said:
TV's Frink said:
Father Skywalker said:
I apologize if my extreme punctuation annoys you or anybody else too, it's is just an OCD habit; if it gets annoying I'll will stop it.........
Did he survive the explosion of the second death star or not???
a) It's annoying - please stop
b) Of course he didn't survive. It blew up. You know what happens when something blows up? Everything ends.
xhonzi said:
And then the DSIII blows up.
THE /END.
Yes, but how do you know that moff tiaan jerjerrod was on it when it blew up??
Beats me. I didn't read most of your post.
Father Skywalker said:
I'm am still very confused on why you dislike the prequels..... 3 of my friends are prequel-fans....2 of them love all of the prequels equally, one of them says that he loves episode 3 but he finds episodes 1 and 2, as just merely ok, and meh......Do you hate/dislike the prequels trilogy because they ruined the mystery of the originals trilogy??? Do you believe that the prequels trilogy was ireedemable, and regardless of how it could have been better or improved, it's existence, is, in and of itself, bad, and it ruins the originals????
RESPONSE:
I believe the prequel trilogy could have been done well, but it would require some clever, inspired and creative writing. Unfortunately, the only creative impulse that went into the writing process was "faster, more intense!". Then there was the execution. The actors were mediocre to terrible, the effects were done mostly digitally, which may have been a great idea back then, but now they mostly seem terribly dated. And that is just scratching the surface.
Father Skywalker said:
The noble Old Republic used armies of clones; why is that wrong???
RESPONSE:
Is this even a serious question? How about the same reason we haven't yet cloned a human being? Because it doesn't seem right. Basically the Clone Wars were about Republic pitting their artificially manufactured disposable human beings against the armies of disposable machines. And everyone was so degenerated that it didn't even strike them as a moral dilemma. Now if "Clone Wars" (which was established as soon as Episode IV) was in fact about this dilemma - and the bad guys would be in favor of such policy - that would make an interesting conflict.
Father Skywalker said:
Yes, but how do you know that moff tiaan jerjerrod was on it when it blew up?? Remember that the guys were evacuating on it at the ending; nothing ever confirmed whether or not grand moff tiaan jerjjerod escaped!!!!
Check the deleted scenes on the blu-ray. They were about to blow up the moon of Endor when the Death Star was destroyed, so no, he didn't escape
He died for need of more men.
Wexter said:
Father Skywalker said: I'm am still very confused on why you dislike the prequels..... 3 of my friends are prequel-fans....2 of them love all of the prequels equally, one of them says that he loves episode 3 but he finds episodes 1 and 2, as just merely ok, and meh......Do you hate/dislike the prequels trilogy because they ruined the mystery of the originals trilogy??? Do you believe that the prequels trilogy was ireedemable, and regardless of how it could have been better or improved, it's existence, is, in and of itself, bad, and it ruins the originals???? RESPONSE: I believe the prequel trilogy could have been done well, but it would require some clever, inspired and creative writing. Unfortunately, the only creative impulse that went into the writing process was "faster, more intense!". Then there was the execution. The actors were mediocre to terrible, the effects were done mostly digitally, which may have been a great idea back then, but now they mostly seem terribly dated. And that is just scratching the surface. Father Skywalker said: The noble Old Republic used armies of clones; why is that wrong??? RESPONSE: Is this even a serious question? How about the same reason we haven't yet cloned a human being? Because it doesn't seem right. Basically the Clone Wars were about Republic pitting their artificially manufactured disposable human beings against the armies of disposable machines. And everyone was so degenerated that it didn't even strike them as a moral dilemma. Now if "Clone Wars" (which was established as soon as Episode IV) was in fact about this dilemma - and the bad guys would be in favor of such policy - that would make an interesting conflict.
How exactly did they make clones??? Those Jango Fett clones looked like middle aged, like 40 year yr old men. By that logic, Anakin Skywalker should have aged decades at the end of episode 2.......How did they make the clones so fast??? Like a factory assembly line??? Sorry, I apologize if me asking all of these questions and opinions is annoying to you, but I just didn't pick up on that in the movies.......
I aint sure if cloning is immoral or moral, that depends on what the laws/government says and what your religion says.....
Father Skywalker said:
Wexter said:
Pffffffss... blonde Natalie Portman. What's next, yellow Sam L. Jackson?
Stop making racist jokes!!!!
Now listen, you stop telling me what I can or cannot say. I wasn'? being racist in any way. Would this joke be okay if Samuel L. Jackson was caucasian? Well, he happens to be black.
Viva political correctness. Now we have African-American Jedi Knights.
adywan said:
Father Skywalker said:
Yes, but how do you know that moff tiaan jerjerrod was on it when it blew up?? Remember that the guys were evacuating on it at the ending; nothing ever confirmed whether or not grand moff tiaan jerjjerod escaped!!!!
Check the deleted scenes on the blu-ray. They were about to blow up the moon of Endor when the Death Star was destroyed, so no, he didn't escape
Key words here-deleted scenes-=Non canon........
George Lucas or Lucasfilm had never stated if deleted scenes or scripts are canon or not.....Either way, please send me a link of that........
That contradicts the movie/film..... Darth Sidious was too busy dealing with Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker to order the second death star to fire on endor; remember how they were just seconds away from forming the laser to destroy Yavin IV when grand governor moff tarkin died during the explosion???? There was not a scene like that, even in the deleted scenes, for Mr. jerjerrod or during episode 6, correct me if I'm am wrong on this detail..... Where did that name come from anyways; the movies/films or the novelizations/books???
You have seen the prequels right?
Father Skywalker said:
I aint sure if cloning is immoral or moral, that depends on what the laws/government says and what your religion says.....
Then i am glad we have the constitution and The Bible, otherwise I would just walk around killing people without thinking twice about that.
Wexter said:
Father Skywalker said:
Wexter said:
Pffffffss... blonde Natalie Portman. What's next, yellow Sam L. Jackson?
Stop making racist jokes!!!!
Now liten, you stop telling me what I can or cannot say. I wasn'? being racist in any way. Would this joke be okay if Samuel L. Jackson was caucasian? Well, he happens to be black.
Viva political correctness. Now we have African-American Jedi Knights.
OK, i apologize, politcal correctness is stupid and idiotic, i'll will give you credit on that, I misenterpreted you, I apologize..... I didn't know you were making a general joke about a person with yellow skin, regardless if they are a caucasian/white or black/african american person.........
U R correct there, people need to stop interperting racial/racist inuendos into everything!!!!
Bingowings said:
You have seen the prequels right?
Yes, Yup, Yeah!!!!!!
Wexter said:
Father Skywalker said:
I aint sure if cloning is immoral or moral, that depends on what the laws/government says and what your religion says.....
Then i am glad we have the constitution and The Bible, otherwise I would just walk around killing people without thinking twice about that.
Cloning is not immoral in and of itself (by that logic, having twins and triplet babies is immoral and evil and wrong!!!!!); it's is only wrong if it violates the laws and rules of the nation/country that you live in, or it goes against your faith or spirituality or religion the god that you love and trust and believe in.........
I appreciate your sarcasm though!!!!!
There's the bit where Obi-Wan is being shown around the cloning facility by that New Zealand supermodel.
You see the babies in little lightbulb things and she explains they use accelerated aging and education machines to get the troops to be mature enough to fight in a short period of time.
So yes it's a production line just like the droids.
Father Skywalker said:
Cloning is not immoral in and of itself (by that logic, having twins and triplet babies is immoral and evil and wrong!!!!!);
Are you serious? They are two completely different things. One is created by nature while the other, cloning, is created by science. Not the same at all.
Wexter said:
Father Skywalker said:
I'm am still very confused on why you dislike the prequels..... 3 of my friends are prequel-fans....2 of them love all of the prequels equally, one of them says that he loves episode 3 but he finds episodes 1 and 2, as just merely ok, and meh......Do you hate/dislike the prequels trilogy because they ruined the mystery of the originals trilogy??? Do you believe that the prequels trilogy was ireedemable, and regardless of how it could have been better or improved, it's existence, is, in and of itself, bad, and it ruins the originals????
RESPONSE:
I believe the prequel trilogy could have been done well, but it would require some clever, inspired and creative writing. Unfortunately, the only creative impulse that went into the writing process was "faster, more intense!". Then there was the execution. The actors were mediocre to terrible, the effects were done mostly digitally, which may have been a great idea back then, but now they mostly seem terribly dated. And that is just scratching the surface.
Father Skywalker said:
The noble Old Republic used armies of clones; why is that wrong???
RESPONSE:
Is this even a serious question? How about the same reason we haven't yet cloned a human being? Because it doesn't seem right. Basically the Clone Wars were about Republic pitting their artificially manufactured disposable human beings against the armies of disposable machines. And everyone was so degenerated that it didn't even strike them as a moral dilemma. Now if "Clone Wars" (which was established as soon as Episode IV) was in fact about this dilemma - and the bad guys would be in favor of such policy - that would make an interesting conflict.
Another thing; going to war with the Seperatists was a stupid idiotic decision and unjust war, let them leave your nation/country, they aint hurting anybody????
Hey, check out the redletter media plinkett mike stolkassa revenge of the sith review, the entire review is funny and awesome (yes, he does make some vulgar comedy too), but it's is mostly comedic and satirical, with some good serious points about the prequels trilogy, though..... A mixture of both; he made a good point that the clones should've been cloned monsters from a mysterious planet in outer space, created by Darth Sidious and Darth Tyrannus (aka count dooku) that attack the galactic republic and start a war.......
Coruscant looked all peaceful and shiny during the prequels; it's is a friggin war!!!!!!! I apologize for the euphinisms profanity if anybody here is offended by that!!!!! During the second world war, entire cities (yes, with civilians) were destroyed and worn-out!!!!!!
Or, my original idea, is that the clones should've been extragalactic beings!!!!!!!
adywan said:
Father Skywalker said:
Cloning is not immoral in and of itself (by that logic, having twins and triplet babies is immoral and evil and wrong!!!!!);
Are you serious? They are two completely different things. One is created by nature while the other, cloning, is created by science. Not the same at all.
You gotta obey the laws of the land; if the law forbids cloning-then don't do it!!!!!! Other than that, it's is the same concept-clones and twins-genetically identical organisms!!!!!
Father Skywalker said:
Wexter said:
Father Skywalker said:
I aint sure if cloning is immoral or moral, that depends on what the laws/government says and what your religion says.....
Then i am glad we have the constitution and The Bible, otherwise I would just walk around killing people without thinking twice about that.
Cloning is not immoral in and of itself (by that logic, having twins and triplet babies is immoral and evil and wrong!!!!!); it's is only wrong if it violates the laws and rules of the nation/country that you live in, or it goes against your faith or spirituality or religion the god that you love and trust and believe in.........
I appreciate your sarcasm though!!!!!
I am just saying that the idea of manufacturing human beings for fighting and dying in battles would not generally be considered alright. It is a prime example of how the prequel star wars galaxy (and apparently you as well) is removed from general humanity and common sense.
Getting the thread back on track a little, I couldn't disagree more with the review of ESB. That it is said to have "no character development", "no plot", and "no emotional or philosophical point to make" makes me think that the guy didn't even see the movie. To me, ESB is the soul of the Star Wars story:
"For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us, and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you!"
"I don't believe it!"
"That is why you fail."
This is a far more emotional and philosophical angle than the dry exposition by Obi-wan in the original movie, and I think that it really guaranteed the immortality of Star Wars. As to having no plot or character development - what about having Han and Leia fall in love, or having Luke confront the idea that his worst enemy may be his father? Makes me think that the reviewer was just trying to get a rise out of people.
I quite like hearing other viewpoints, however. Everyone needs to let Father Skywalker alone. It's viewpoints like his that give these forums some life, otherwise it would just be people agreeing with each other all day. You have to remember that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Father Skywalker is a good friend.
You probably don’t recognize me because of the red arm.
Episode 9 Rewrite, The Starlight Project (Released!) and ANH Technicolor Project (Released!)
They are both made by one person sticking something in a vessel of something else and agitating for a period of time.
Technology is an extension of nature, if crows can make tools, tools are natural.
I maintain that the droids and the clones in Star Wars are much more slaves than Anakin was.
I hope the ST addresses that (not a popular idea around here I do realise).
NeverarGreat said:
Getting the thread back on track a little, I couldn't disagree more with the review of ESB. That it is said to have "no character development", "no plot", and "no emotional or philosophical point to make" makes me think that the guy didn't even see the movie. To me, ESB is the soul of the Star Wars story:
"For my ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Its energy surrounds us, and binds us. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter. You must feel the Force around you!"
"I don't believe it!"
"That is why you fail."
This is a far more emotional and philosophical angle than the dry exposition by Obi-wan in the original movie, and I think that it really guaranteed the immortality of Star Wars. As to having no plot or character development - what about having Han and Leia fall in love, or having Luke confront the idea that his worst enemy may be his father? Makes me think that the reviewer was just trying to get a rise out of people.
I quite like hearing other viewpoints, however. Everyone needs to let Father Skywalker alone. It's viewpoints like his that give these forums some life, otherwise it would just be people agreeing with each other all day. You have to remember that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view. Father Skywalker is a good friend.
I don't like episode 5 because of all of the totally confusing and random plot holes, like, no mention of any planets that the second death star had destroyed yet, or was planning to destroy........
Now you're pushing it;)
I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't. Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for.
Bingowings said:
There's the bit where Obi-Wan is being shown around the cloning facility by that New Zealand supermodel.
You see the babies in little lightbulb things and she explains they use accelerated aging and education machines to get the troops to be mature enough to fight in a short period of time.
So yes it's a production line just like the droids.
In other words-the Old republic had child soldiers.........
Hmm, that sounds so moral and nice and alright and good!!!!!1