The Acolyte (live action series set in The High Republic era) - a general discussion thread — Page 14

BedeHistory731 said:

Also, I’m pretty sure it means the High Republic stuff is on the way out in favor of more Skywalker-era stuff.

Honestly, I don’t think so. At least not permanently. Lucasfilm has been playing the long game with the High Republic, introducing it in books, then setting their preschool cartoon in it, and finally doing a live-action series in it. They’ll return to this period sooner or later.

NFBisms said:

ok define dragging, rushing, coherent, compelling, etc

I realize this is annoying but I truly think whatever thesis you can make from this kind of thing falls apart under any kind of scrutiny. I’m not saying things can’t be evaluated or that I even disagree about the Acolyte, but trying to speak on some kind of objective corporate tip, from your own purely personal engagement with the content’s quality is arbitrary. Your opinion is not invalid, you’re just not going to discover an insight worth saying out loud.

“Make good things, not bad things!”

I get it… terms like “dragging” or “compelling” are subjective, but they’re still useful in discussing media. My point isn’t to create an objective corporate strategy but to highlight that when content fails to resonate, it’s worth exploring why. Yes, it might boil down to “Make good things, not bad things” but understanding what makes something “good” is crucial for creating successful content, especially for a company like Disney.

I absolutely believe it’s worth exploring why something does or doesn’t work, don’t get me wrong. That’s kind of my whole obsession, yk? I don’t post walls of text working through my thoughts on something on a forum because I fundamentally misunderstand that. I apologize for being a bit glib, but my frustrations are actually that I don’t think people are being good enough at it. /respectfully

NFBisms said:

I absolutely believe it’s worth exploring why something does or doesn’t work, don’t get me wrong. That’s kind of my whole obsession, yk? I don’t post walls of text working through my thoughts on something on a forum because I fundamentally misunderstand that. I apologize for being a bit glib, but my frustrations are actually that I don’t think people are being good enough at it. /respectfully

If your obsession is figuring out why things work or don’t, then it’s a little ironic to dismiss my points as arbitrary. You say people aren’t good enough at this, but then you brush off anyone trying to have the conversation. Maybe the problem isn’t that people are missing the mark, it’s that you’re more interested in tearing down discussions than actually having them. Respectfully.

There are certainly discussions that I’m not interested in having, yeah

Has the cancellation been officially confirmed? All of the articles i’ve seen floating around are quoting from the same site that originally posted this “scoop” which only claimed that their “sources” told them. Haven’t seen anything coming from Lucasfilm or Disney about this.

adywan said:

Has the cancellation been officially confirmed? All of the articles i’ve seen floating around are quoting from the same site that originally posted this “scoop” which only claimed that their “sources” told them. Haven’t seen anything coming from Lucasfilm or Disney about this.

The original scoop came from Deadline, which is considered an official trade and therefore like 99% accurate. It’s the next-closest thing to Lucasfilm/Disney saying it themselves. In fact, studios often intentionally pass these tidbits along to trades behind-the-scenes to avoid the embarrassment of saying these things themselves.

Vladius said:

NFBisms said:

I absolutely believe it’s worth exploring why something does or doesn’t work, don’t get me wrong. That’s kind of my whole obsession, yk? I don’t post walls of text working through my thoughts on something on a forum because I fundamentally misunderstand that. I apologize for being a bit glib, but my frustrations are actually that I don’t think people are being good enough at it. /respectfully

Are you a SomethingAwful goon by chance?

I didn’t even know what this meant lol. I’m just an originaltrilogy guy, mostly hang out on our Discord server, actually.

Honestly though, I do want to apologize for how condescending I’m being. I think because I’ve had a lot of these conversations throughout different threads or on the server, I get tired of re-litigating and catching things up to where a different one (on the same topic) is. But forums just move slower and more sparsely and ultimately it is two different communities, regardless of overlap.

That’s really no one’s fault and honestly unfair of me.

Yeah, it’s wild when you consider that The Acolyte had a massive $180 million budget (compared to the other Star Wars Disney+ shows that sit around a $90-110 million budget) and still ended up being the least-watched Star Wars show on Disney+. With that kind of investment, they were obviously banking on it being a hit, but the numbers just do not justify keeping it around it seems.

It’s like Lucasfilm is just throwing money at these projects without a clear plan, then acting surprised when they don’t work out. What’s really missing here is someone spearheading the ship creatively. Without a clear leadership role to define the vision and direction, we’ll just keep seeing more of the same: big budgets, weak execution, and a string of missed opportunities.

Lucasfilm has an untapped goldmine in The Old Republic era, a chance to right some of the wrongs of the ST with a The Clone Wars-style animated show featuring the OT characters on adventures post-ROTJ, as well as a bunch of different bounty hunter and Jedi characters that they could make content for. Why they don’t just write and develop more stories around these characters just blows my mind…

NFBisms said:

Honestly though, I do want to apologize for how condescending I’m being. I think because I’ve had a lot of these conversations throughout different threads or on the server, I get tired of re-litigating and catching things up to where a different one (on the same topic) is. But forums just move slower and more sparsely and ultimately it is two different communities, regardless of overlap.

That’s really no one’s fault and honestly unfair of me.

At the end of the day we all want the same thing anyways, fun Star Wars stories that resonate, just need the Disney Overlords to evaluate their endgame a little better before they make and release something.

Exactly… when this show was first announced, I think there were a lot of people who were thinking of it as a “Young Palpatine” show focused on him being a Sith Acolyte ploting his rise to power. Like Game of Thrones for the Sith.

What could have been…

SparkySywer said:

Would it have been though?

Likely not, but if it was, would it have gotten a Season 2?

Vladius said:

If they wanted to do something truly original, they wouldn’t have any Sith at all. Or maybe a Sith that we’re not familiar with, and no Jedi.

That’s why I’m most excited for Mangold’s Dawn of the Jedi film, in the case of doing something original. Technically, it won’t have Jedi in the traditional way, but a small group of people discovering the force and how to wield it seems interesting.

That’s literally explicitly about Jedi and Sith.

Anakin Starkiller said:

That’s literally explicitly about Jedi and Sith.

Depends how they do it. A movie about people discovering the force for the first time without the mention of Jedi, Sith or lightsabers could be a cool concept if done right.