Ha ha, Fox is hunting down the Deleted Scenes on YouTube and they don't seem to bother to watch them :-) I just got this:
We have disabled the following material as a result of a third-party notification from Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation claiming that this material is infringing: STAR WARS Blu-Ray New Deleted Scene Please Note: Repeat incidents of copyright infringement will result in the deletion of your account and all videos uploaded to that account. In order to prevent this from happening, please delete any videos to which you do not own the rights, and refrain from uploading additional videos that infringe on the copyrights of others. For more information about YouTube's copyright policy, please read the Copyright Tips guide. If one of your postings has been misidentified as infringing, you may submit a counter-notification. Information about this process is in our Help Center. Please note that under Section 512(f) of the Copyright Act, any person who knowingly materially misrepresents that material was disabled due to mistake or misidentification may be liable for damages. Sincerely, — The YouTube Team It is of course my grappling hook video ;-D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V170Z0At80
Has anyone posted a link to the blu-ray.com review yet? If not...
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Star-Wars-Blu-ray/14903/#Review
Yeah, the picture quality is apparently great on the OT. Sure, the picture's sharp, but he didn't mention that the transfer was from 2004. Sure, the lightsabers look "better," but he failed to mention Vader's pink lightsaber in a few ESB shots. Sounds like he was biased because "It's Star Wars! On Blu-Ray!" I don't blame him, but the review does seem a little weighted.
The franchises I get nerdy about are so obscure that not even most nerds know about them.
Watching the extras of the fore-mentioned Doctor Who DVD I discovered that the guy supplying the effects for their special edition was none other than farmergeddon71 so effectively not only have they put out a special edition with the original but they did the equivalent of getting Adywan to do their special edition for them and paid him too.
Even the preservation team is comprised largely by expert fans.
Lucas you are doing this so wrong.
What's funny is while I read about the "Day of the Daleks" DVD a couple weeks ago, it was just yesterday when I wondered to myself, "I wonder if the original version is on there, that would be a coup". And lo and behold, Bingo is here to reassure me that some people can do things correctly.Bingowings said:
Watching the extras of the fore-mentioned Doctor Who DVD I discovered that the guy supplying the effects for their special edition was none other than<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmh8xeX6SG0" target="_self"> farmergeddon71</a> so effectively not only have they put out a special edition with the original but they did the equivalent of getting Adywan to do their special edition for them and paid him too.
Even the preservation team is comprised largely by expert fans.
Lucas you are doing this so wrong.
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I like this guy as a reviewer. I've read others he's done and he's usually fair about the good and the bad. This review was no different. I think he was fair and shares the disappointment of the OT not being included. Thanks for posting the link here.
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Got this link from Twitter.
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"...there's a real sense of not-giving-a-shit."
That sums it up for me, but he's quite objective overall. Regardless of a couple personal opinions from the reviewer (can't agree on anything all the time, right?) I thought it was pretty good at painting a picture of what to expect if you buy them. I still won't for the time being.
Yeah, Doctor Who has a killer restoration team.
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I agree about the Doctor Who restorations - they are indeed incredible. The Planet of the Daleks DVD was stunning because it included a newly-colorized episode - they had lost one of the color episodes and only had a black-and-white version of it - the color version had never been found. So they created a new colorization technique themselves just for that episode, and the results are amazing - I really don't think it's possible to tell the difference between the rest of the episodes and the color episode. It's that good. They even include a segment on the DVD about how they did the colorization.
And I have seen several of their classic episode DVDs that contain both the original episodes and new "special editions" as well.
It goes to show how much effort the BBC puts into their discs. Now compare that to Lucasfilm.
Oldfan said:
So they created a new colorization technique themselves just for that episode, and the results are amazing - I really don't think it's possible to tell the difference between the rest of the episodes and the color episode. It's that good. They even include a segment on the DVD about how they did the colorization.
Given some of the OT Deleted Scenes, this is probably very tantalizing to Fan Editors.
I've heard nothing but exemplary things about the Dr. Who DVD's you speak of and I'm not even a fan. GL has the same resource in the fan-base and he could do so much without spending to infinity to do it. Maybe this would make for another petition regarding the restoration of the OT and all the deleted footage....they could end up with some fine arse product that would rival those Dr. Who treasures.
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Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Yeah, Doctor Who has a killer restoration team.
It's too bad the original Star Trek didn't have as good of a restoration team, either. Although Paramount's idea of "restoration" for the old Star Trek episodes was "make them darker and slap filters on it." But I should save my Original Star Trek purism for the proper forums.
georgec said:
For every fan that boycotts there are 500-5,000 fans that don't care.
We shouldn't sell ourselves short, though. We may not be the largest chunk of the fanbase, but we're here, and I'm sure we have SOME effect on the bigger picture (especially the fan editors like Adywan).
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Promus said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Yeah, Doctor Who has a killer restoration team.
It's too bad the original Star Trek didn't have as good of a restoration team, either. Although Paramount's idea of "restoration" for the old Star Trek episodes was "make them darker and slap filters on it."
Are you talking about the TOS or the early films? TOS is pristine.
I figured the deleted scenes wouldn't last long on youtube. There's some interesting stuff there, no doubt. I liked Jerjerrod's conflict and the Luke/Leia scene in Empire before Han walks in. I'm not turning this into a prequel hate thread, but those OT deleted scenes really portray character relationships and struggles much better than the PT does. We see those expressions in their faces and nuances that tell us so much about what the characters are thinking, like Vader turning against the Emperor which suffers from the "Nooo!"
I figure it's only a matter of time before some fans edit in the deleted scenes to the OT to make unofficial "extended cuts."
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Drewton said:
Promus said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
Yeah, Doctor Who has a killer restoration team.
It's too bad the original Star Trek didn't have as good of a restoration team, either. Although Paramount's idea of "restoration" for the old Star Trek episodes was "make them darker and slap filters on it."
Are you talking about the TOS or the early films? TOS is pristine.
TOS, of course - anything besides those original 79 episodes isn't even canon (as far as I'm concerned)!
georgec said:
I figured the deleted scenes wouldn't last long on youtube.
That's why I ripped them off YouTube while I could (in 1080p). If anyone wants the scenes, just PM me. :)
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shandy706 said:georgec said:
For every fan that boycotts there are 500-5,000 fans that don't care.
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Plus the kids that are too young to know/care.
Who are his primary audience anyway, and who will buy anything with the SW brand on it. We've lost guys. It's over.
FunkyDays said:
I've been talking with my wife lately about the "backlash" and how it's even been picked up in the mainstream media this time around. Maybe fans have been pushed to far. I know I have. I don't object to whatever changes George wants to make to his SEs, I just want the freedom to watch the OT alongside them, and judging from the 1 Star reviews on Amazon, it "seemed" like a lot of others felt the same way.
Walked into Future Shop yesterday morning to buy some coffee for my Keurig. My wife says "Do I need to hold you back from the SW display"? Ha ha ha! I go in, and find "every" copy in their AT-AT display sold out! That thing held a lot of copies, and I know they refilled it throughout the day, the day before. Wife looks at me and says "You might as well just buy the damned thing". The sad thing is, I know she's right :-(
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One of the big disappointments to me with this blu-ray release (aside form the problems with the films themselves) is the bonus discs. I'm very disappointed to read that they included no trailers and no poster galleries. Did they at least include the Ralph McQuarrie art for the OT? I'm guessing not, but I thought I'd ask anyways.
Part of why I decided to get the Alien blu-ray set is that they included everything that was included on the older DVD box set, plus some new stuff as well. I traded in my DVD box set to help pay for the blu-ray set, which I ordered new online direct from 20th century fox to get the limited edition sculpture. Now all the people (like me) who didn't buy the Star Wars DVDs because they read such awful things about the transfers won't get the trailers, docs, art galleries, etc. even if they buy the blu-rays. What's especially disappointing is that the OT bonus disc is only half full - there's plenty of room for all the other extras, they just didn't bother. In my mind, it's just not worth spending the money on this set - the extras aren't worth it to me because they left too many behind.
For that matter, where are the vintage commercials? How about the R2-D2/C-3PO anti-smoking PSA? Or the vaccination PSA? These can be found on many different fan-made discs. Where is the Muppet Star Wars episode (not just a clip - the whole episode)? This would have been a great opportunity to give fans a really comprehensive collection of vintage material, considering the size of blu-ray discs. Instead all they did is throw us a few bones. The making of Star Wars/SPFX/Classic Creatures vintage docs are awesome stuff, but there should have been more vintage stuff like that and less of the filler like a 45-minute doc on the 501st.
From Star Wars to Jedi is on the Blu, correct? is it in 5.1? or is it a straight rip/pull from the VHS/laserdisc?
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
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Harmy wrote:
Ha ha, Fox is hunting down the Deleted Scenes on YouTube and they don't seem to bother to watch them :-) I just got this:
We have disabled the following material *OMIT*
Sincerely,
— The YouTube Team
It is of course my grappling hook video ;-D
If people continue to believe that every reuse is an infringement then people will say that they have the right to remove your video. I strongly disagree. (but I also don't use youtube, because of this bull shit, and i'm not a lawyer) But in the cover of BR videos, they are able to remove a lot of other videos they don't want out there. They blinked out fan films a few years back, and even after an apology, many never returned. I recommend filing a counter-claim:
http://www.eff.org/issues/intellectual-property/guide-to-youtube-removals
http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_counter
If you want press, you can ask Jambe to hook you up with the guy at Wired he's written for. That guy might be interested in this grappling hook video situation how it was taken down erroniously, how that relates to StarWars.com blinking out millions of pages, oh and your despecialized edition. Would make for a good blog/article.
Mike O said:
We've lost guys. It's over.
"No we're not...what kind of talk is that?"
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none said:
Harmy wrote:
Ha ha, Fox is hunting down the Deleted Scenes on YouTube and they don't seem to bother to watch them :-) I just got this:
We have disabled the following material *OMIT*
Sincerely,
— The YouTube Team
It is of course my grappling hook video ;-D
If people continue to believe that every reuse is an infringement then people will say that they have the right to remove your video. I strongly disagree. (but I also don't use youtube, because of this bull shit, and i'm not a lawyer) But in the cover of BR videos, they are able to remove a lot of other videos they don't want out there. They blinked out fan films a few years back, and even after an apology, many never returned. I recommend filing a counter-claim:
http://www.eff.org/issues/intellectual-property/guide-to-youtube-removals
http://www.youtube.com/t/copyright_counter
If you want press, you can ask Jambe to hook you up with the guy at Wired he's written for. That guy might be interested in this grappling hook video situation how it was taken down erroniously, how that relates to StarWars.com blinking out millions of pages, oh and your despecialized edition. Would make for a good blog/article.
Yeah... To be honest, I'm not that bothered about that one being deleted to go into any trouble about it, as legally I still didn't have the right to use the material. And I especially don't want to draw any official attention to the DeEds, especially in connection with these issues.
fishmanlee said:
From Star Wars to Jedi is on the Blu, correct? is it in 5.1? or is it a straight rip/pull from the VHS/laserdisc?
That doc is not on the BD set, but it's on youtube somewhere...
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georgec said:
fishmanlee said:
From Star Wars to Jedi is on the Blu, correct? is it in 5.1? or is it a straight rip/pull from the VHS/laserdisc?
That doc is not on the BD set, but it's on youtube somewhere...
I believe it's also a bonus on various preservations.
That's exactly my point - these things are on fan preservations but they didn't even bother to release them on the blu-ray.
You guys have got to see this comedy gold edit of the deleted scenes.\
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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OH MY GOD!!! That is awesome!!!