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Star Wars Trilogy SE bluray color regrade (a WIP) — Page 17

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DrDre said:

Nope, I borrowed this color grading from Mike Verta. I trust his judgement 😃.

Thank God! He’s green!

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There is allot of crush in those notorious Blu-ray, dark Cantina shots [top: Blu-ray, bottom: picture dimmed w/crushed R-G-B’s hilighted] . .

. . which carried over into your regrade. I hope it doesn’t make them more problematic.

BTW, as much as I can make out on this lcd screen, your fine-tunings are looking great!

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Spaced Ranger said:

There is allot of crush in those notorious Blu-ray, dark Cantina shots [top: Blu-ray, bottom: picture dimmed w/crushed R-G-B’s hilighted] . .

. . which carried over into your regrade. I hope it doesn’t make them more problematic.

BTW, as much as I can make out on this lcd screen, your fine-tunings are looking great!

The vignetting is strong with this one…

P.S. There’s a shot around here of Lucas touching Leia’s chin… apparently he’s just a chin touching sort of guy!

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I think with the crush in the bluray, less contrast is probably the way to go:

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I think the lower contrast makes it look worse. This sort of bland look is a big problem with the BD.

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DrDre said:
I think with the crush in the bluray, less contrast is probably the way to go:

Your 1st regrade looks the like your Verta target. The 2nd regrade doesn’t (looks more like the Blu-ray).

If you think such crushed picture(s) need the help for best conversion – perhaps raising the baseline from 0, to 8 or 12 (pushing the picture uniformly up), and then lowering the gamma from 1.0, to 0.95 (pulling the picture disproportionately down, mostly into the problematic lower end), that would be the best starting point. It would reduce the crushed range for least impact on your regrading.

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Crush refers to luminance being cut-off at the low end. When color correction is mishandled as was on the Star Wars Blu-ray, the range of luminance “0” through “13”, for example, is all mashed down into blotchs of “0”. Detail is lost, but so is the balance of the picture, which starts to look like an artificial, high contrast.

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Spaced Ranger said:

DrDre said:
I think with the crush in the bluray, less contrast is probably the way to go:

Your 1st regrade looks the like your Verta target. The 2nd regrade doesn’t (looks more like the Blu-ray).

If you think such crushed picture(s) need the help for best conversion – perhaps raising the baseline from 0, to 8 or 12 (pushing the picture uniformly up), and then lowering the gamma from 1.0, to 0.95 (pulling the picture disproportionately down, mostly into the problematic lower end), that would be the best starting point. It would reduce the crushed range for least impact on your regrading.

The algorithm automatically minimizes the difference with the target, while minimizing unwanted noise, which leads to the first result. I agree with everybody here, that despite inheriting crush from the bluray, it does look much better.

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Great shot kid! That was one in a million!

Bluray:

Bluray regraded:

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Now, that looks awesome! Why though did you brighten the BD here (quite correctly IMO) and not in the other shots?

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To be fair, I based it on a reference I found on the web, and just felt it looked great. I usually try to stay close to the luminosity of the Tech print, but some of them probably look better with some increased brightness. Got any suggestions?

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When I was correcting to those Tech reference scans, I used them as a guide for color-hues but not at all for contrast and brightness, because the references were clearly crushed, which makes sense now that we know they were uncorrected.

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That’s a lovely picture. It even looks like more detail can be seen on Chewie’s head

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Color looks nice, but I think your brightness and contrast looked much better before. That Ben/Luke/3PO shot is back to looking strange due to it. And some of the Tantive/dinner/canyon scenes are overly bright.

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Yeah, I don’t like them either… 😉 I’m working on increasing the brightness and saturation slightly of the original regrade, where necessary.

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Well, you went a little over-board with the brightness in the Tatooine shot, which didn’t need it and yet you kept the crushed Death Star ones dark 😉

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I really like this a lot…Nice!

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I’ve updated three shots. I think the others are fine as they are.

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As someone who lives in the desert, the bright desert shots don’t bother me at all. It’s always too damned bright out here! 😃 Now, if that was the original intended look or not, I couldn’t tell you.