yotsuya said:
ZkinandBonez said:
yotsuya said:
ZkinandBonez said:
So it just occurred to me that CW season 7 could technically qualify as both Legends and Canon at the same time. Granted the canonicity of CW pre-Disney was kind of weird and inconsistent, but it is the only non-live-action material to be canonized after Disney bought SW, and season 7 is based on unfinished episodes from the pre-Disney days, so shouldn’t the new season technically be part of both continuities? Not that this really matters overall, but I find these kinds of things fascinating.
I really don’t see any indication that TCW was ever linked to the EU/Legends. It has always been canon. The earlier 2003 mini series even fits (Anakin becoming a Jedi and getting his face scar and growing his hair out). When they announced that the EU was being cut and would be Legends and not Canon, I never for a moment thought that included anything animated. It’s canon status was never in dispute as far as I’m concerned. And what I heard officially backs that up. The 2003 series might be iffy, but the 2008 movie and series is not.
I’m not really sure what you’re saying here; everything SW related made pre-2014 qualifies as Legends. When TCW was made was simply “canon” just like everything else, except Disney decided to keep it as part of the new canon so it now exists in this weird double continuity. Even though Lucas specifically never really cared that much for canonicity and anything he made could prioritize and even overwrite other ideas, everything made was still “canon”, including the Tartakovsky CW series. There are even TCW related spin-off material that is now officially Legends, and the show even had plans to include Darth Revan and have an episode featuring the Yuuzhan Vong.
I’m not saying that TCW’s canonicity is in dispute, just that it has become an official part of two separate continuities, just like ep. 1-6 has. Though I suppose there’s no real “official” canon for Legends as all pre-2014 EU material is officially just non-canon. SW continuity isn’t as well maintained as f.ex. the various DC comics continuities, so Legends is kind of hard to define nowadays.
I’m saying that when they moved the EU to Legends that Clone Wars was not ever part of the EU and was always canon and was not included in that. Everything Dave Filoni has done has remained Canon under Disney. The EU is the Expanded Universe of books and Comics and is now Legends. The Clone Wars material that was in books and comics moved to Legends, but the series was never moved to Legends. The only reason they cancelled season 6 is that it was airing on Cartoon Network. It had nothing to do with it being kept in canon status. George was always pretty clear about that and the fact that they proceeded with Rebels which continued Filoni’s ideas made it clear that Clone Wars was canon.
I get what your saying, and yes you’re technically correct. I probably shouldn’t have used “EU” and “canon” so interchangeably.
Yes, the EU generally refers to books, comics and games, though many used the term to describe all non-movie material, but the current slew of animated series and future live-action shows have probably changed that. Regardless, “Canon” still applies to everything SW unless it is immediately labelled as non-canon, like f.ex. the old Infinities comics. When TCW was made it was canon, and when they ditched the old canon, comics, books and most of the cartoons, they only kept ep. 1-6 and TCW as their new starting point. So the “official” Legends canon includes ep. 1-6 (and obviously none of the newer movies), CW, TCW, Droids, Ewoks, and all the old books, comics, etc. This is what I meant by TCW being in a weird spot as it ties in with Legends material, but it also ties in with new canon material, so it and the Lucas movies are in this weird double-continuity space.
As for season 7, it’s only a new canon season, it even has new canon references added to it, I just think its funny that one of the latest new canon entries is based on something that was originally going to (by default, if not direct creative intent) be part of the old canon.