budwhite said:I say keep it simple. One or two audio tracks, eng subs and just the movie. Less timeconsuming and bigger chance that it will show up sooner rather than later/never.
Absolutely, and I think at present this will hopefully produce two versions:
1. Dark Jedi's simple versions, which I will help him with as much as possible.
2. Hopefully my versions, which Dark Jedi will help me with ;)
DVD-BOY
Well I am all for helping and getting help LOL,just as soon as I get this crawl figured out,Thanks Ady,then I need someone to help me with masking in After Effects,for the subtitle parts.
I am working on the crawl right now,next up subs,so paging Dr Ady,paging Dr Ady,unless anyone else has done After Effect masking work.
dark_jedi said:Well I am all for helping and getting help LOL,just as soon as I get this crawl figured out,Thanks Ady,then I need someone to help me with masking in After Effects,for the subtitle parts.
I am working on the crawl right now,next up subs,so paging Dr Ady,paging Dr Ady,unless anyone else has done After Effect masking work.
Wow, you're overlaying the English Footage over the German footage to add the english subs. I was just going to splice everything together with AVISynth - is the English footage a noticable lower quality??
For After Effects the masking tool is on the tool bar, and then drag out the shape you want, or do a lassoo. This will add a mask layer to your composition which you can then, alter it's size and (I think) position with keyframes. There's a feather option as well if that is any help.
Yes it is a big time noticeable difference,I want to use the German version as much as possible.
and thanks for the mask tip but you are telling this to someone who has never used AE,so a tiny sample tut would be extremely helpful right now,because I am SURE once I do this a first time,I will be good to go,I should have done ESB first LOL,no subs.
Hey DJ,
I'm still at work at the moment, but will be home in about 2.5 hours 7:30pm GMT, so I can sort you out then if you haven't heard from Ady or some other kind soul...
In the mean time, I'll try and upload an image...
OH and 1 more thing,I went to the website of DoStudio and there is no trial download.
Nevermind,I got it,had to access it through IE,Firefox would not show the form.
The manual is pretty good with DoStudio, and there are some test files to play with in the Sandbox section.
I've sent you a PM regarding AE Masks.
OK I am making some headway now,I have the English crawl edited onto the German version(Thanks Ady for the cut points)and I used AE mask tools to put the English Greedo subs on the German version(Thanks again Ady and DVD-BOY)as well,so my avisynth script is ready to make a final lossless avi before encode,so are we going to leave this video untouched?
because if we are going to do anything with the video,color,brightness,etc. let me know what we should do,Star Wars didn't have any color issues did it?I thought it was only ESB and ROTJ.
speak up
There was something to do with colours on Star Wars - I think they all boosted, as I remember someone showing how much cyan there was in the whites at the start of the film.
How did the masking come out?
I'm actually sat watching through Episode I - German HD, making a bit of a shot list where english captions will have to drop in, and other items of note, perhaps for a later trivia track or something.
All the OT has colour issues unfortunately
adywan said:All the OT has colour issues unfortunately
Was there an overall setting you used to correct the colour Adywan, or did you do it shot by shot?
May I ask what tool you used for your colour correction?
DVD-BOY said:adywan said:All the OT has colour issues unfortunately
Was there an overall setting you used to correct the colour Adywan, or did you do it shot by shot?
May I ask what tool you used for your colour correction?
no, i had to do it in stages, but mainly it was done shot by shot. I had to mask many blue areas after the first colour correction pass frame by frame to retain their colour so i could remove the tint to the movie.
For example, i had to remove all the blue tint from the Tantive IV corridors to restore them back to white. But this also removed the blues that should be there. Each blue decal on R2, along with the blue shirts of the rebel troopers had to be masked in after effects and colour adjusted. All this had to be done frame by frame.
And that's just some of the things i had to do. Most of the colour correction was done in after effects
Not an easy task.
OK well after reading that I think the color is good enough then,to much work as Ady said and I am NO AE expert by any means LOL.
Wow, that's some dedication there Ady!!
I don't know about Dark Jedi, but I sense that my version may be un-colour corrected for authenticity ;-)
Damn,I finished the avi for encoding and forgot the darn scene with Han and Jaba LOL,so I have to do the subs there and then redo the avi.
So what audio should we use for this? is there better audio we should use?
That scene with Han and Jaba is a pain in the ass,might have to just put the whole English version part in there and forget the masking,but I will try some more to get it to work.
Whats the problem with the Han / Jabba Scene?
If I remember correctly, there was an issue with the surround channels being reversed on the Death Star attack, but to fix that I guess you will have to decode the audio to mono wav files, splice and switch the streams for the duration of the scene / reel (??) and then re-encode back to AC-3.
The music in the surround channels throughout ANH is reversed, and the Death Star attack has one music cue that's dialed down so low it's basically inaudible. Plus the dialogue audio levels are all over the place throughout the film. Simply put, the 2004 audio is a mess.
One of these days, I'd like to go through it and fix all the problems while preserving the legitimate "deliberate creative decisions" (the altered Krayt dragon call, Threepio's "We've stopped!", the stormtrooper's "There's no one here!", the static in the THX 1138 scene, etc.) unique to the 2004 version. But then I remember how little I care about the 2004 SE, and how much I hate most of the changes I'd be preserving ...
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/THE-STAR-WARS-SAGA-1080P-AVCHD-DVD-9-for-PS3-Blu-Ray-players-Episode-1-available-now/topic/9536/
Is the solution to try and sync Ady's Special Edition Laserdisc 5.1 audio instead?
Is that possible? Ady, would you mind?
ChainsawAsh said:The music in the surround channels throughout ANH is reversed, and the Death Star attack has one music cue that's dialed down so low it's basically inaudible. Plus the dialogue audio levels are all over the place throughout the film. Simply put, the 2004 audio is a mess.
One of these days, I'd like to go through it and fix all the problems while preserving the legitimate "deliberate creative decisions" (the altered Krayt dragon call, Threepio's "We've stopped!", the stormtrooper's "There's no one here!", the static in the THX 1138 scene, etc.) unique to the 2004 version. But then I remember how little I care about the 2004 SE, and how much I hate most of the changes I'd be preserving ...
Damn to bad you didn't fix it,but reversing the left and right surround is not difficult at all,but the rest of it is tricky,so should I use the 5.1 English file from the German version or rip it from the DVD?
dark_jedi said:... reversing the left and right surround is not difficult at all...
From what I remember, it's only the music in the rear channels that is reversed - the sound effects are correctly positioned. So, in order to fix the issue, you would need to isolate the music from the effects. Not easy.
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adywan said:Just an Idea, but because the German broadcast were about 17gb in size, adding any more bitrate to them to fill a BD-25 would be pointless. But why not drop the bitrate slightly so each episode comes to about 14-15GB with audio and you could to 2 BD-50 - one for each trilogy with 3 films on each. You really won't see a difference in quality between a 15gb & a 17GB version and this could be a great way to present them as 2 trilogies
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with this. BD blanks are still ridiculously expensive for just the BD-25's ($5-10). BD-50's are astronomical. I'm not looking to spend $30 on a coaster.
I have no problem with the '04 audio. But I like the ¨97 better. Maybe that's to much work to synch it up
Moth3r said:dark_jedi said:... reversing the left and right surround is not difficult at all...
From what I remember, it's only the music in the rear channels that is reversed - the sound effects are correctly positioned. So, in order to fix the issue, you would need to isolate the music from the effects. Not easy.
Sometimes I wonder how people could notice things like this.
budwhite said:Moth3r said:dark_jedi said:... reversing the left and right surround is not difficult at all...
From what I remember, it's only the music in the rear channels that is reversed - the sound effects are correctly positioned. So, in order to fix the issue, you would need to isolate the music from the effects. Not easy.
Sometimes I wonder how people could notice things like this.
Seems like the wrong place to wonder this...