This is all well and good (in fact, the last one is quite cool) but what of the skin tones? These last three have been suspiciously free of faces. ;)
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NeverarGreat said:
This is all well and good (in fact, the last one is quite cool) but what of the skin tones? These last three have been suspiciously free of faces. ;)
I can assure you skin tones are intact, I was already going to post some more images showing off skin tones tommorow actually.
I think this new color palette is going to make these movies a lot less fatiguing on the eyes to watch
I'm not so sure about the colour correction in the speederbike shot. Overall, I like the change in colour in the shot, but there are a bunch of details that are changed/removed:
- The buildings (the triangular ones on either side of the frame) are badly rusting in the original, but the rust is turned into slight dirt smudges in the colour-corrected version
- All the red aircraft warning lights have been entirely removed
- The flames on the left-hand part of the frame appear unnaturally blue in the colour-corrected version
So, the problem with the shot is that the general change in colour cast is nice, but it damaged/removed a bunch of the detailed stuff that shouldn't have been colour corrected (or at least not as much). When you take all this as a whole, these sorts of changes can change the audience's impression when viewing the scene. Different implications about the context and state of the city.
Guspaz said:
I'm not so sure about the colour correction in the speederbike shot. Overall, I like the change in colour in the shot, but there are a bunch of details that are changed/removed:
- The buildings (the triangular ones on either side of the frame) are badly rusting in the original, but the rust is turned into slight dirt smudges in the colour-corrected version
- All the red aircraft warning lights have been entirely removed
- The flames on the left-hand part of the frame appear unnaturally blue in the colour-corrected version
So, the problem with the shot is that the general change in colour cast is nice, but it damaged/removed a bunch of the detailed stuff that shouldn't have been colour corrected (or at least not as much). When you take all this as a whole, these sorts of changes can change the audience's impression when viewing the scene. Different implications about the context and state of the city.
You have good points, there I did notice things you had mentioned. None of the images are no where near final, more of a first pass or draft. However overall, I am trying to reduce the complexity of coruscant, which would include colour correcting some details out, but maybe not as much you mention. Thanks for the comments.
Hey, any chance for a video or at least more shots soon ? I'm very interested how this turns out. The Prequels are horrible movies but they do have the occasional great scene, sometimes held back only by too obvious CGI and that "plastic" feeling. I hope that the 35mm treatment can cure those issues. ;)
Best luck, looking forward to more updates!
Burdokva said:
Hey, any chance for a video or at least more shots soon ? I'm very interested how this turns out. The Prequels are horrible movies but they do have the occasional great scene, sometimes held back only by too obvious CGI and that "plastic" feeling. I hope that the 35mm treatment can cure those issues. ;)
Best luck, looking forward to more updates!
You'll be able to see modified footage in the trailer for my Episode 2 edit.
When are you planning to release the trailer?
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peter_pan said:
When are you planning to release the trailer?
within the next month
emanswfan said:
peter_pan said:
When are you planning to release the trailer?
within the next month
Brilliant.
How far through the color correction do you think you are?
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http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-1-TPM-game-sounds-files/id/15201/page/1
Currently working on: Red Dwarf Night 10th Anniversary V2.
http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Red-Dwarf-Night-10th-Anniversary/id/18056#781639
I'm following improvement on this recolouring process of the PT. Very interested to see what comes out!
peter_pan said:
emanswfan said:
peter_pan said:
When are you planning to release the trailer?
within the next month
Brilliant.
How far through the color correction do you think you are?
It's really mostly testing process still. I don't want to do the truly start the process until I know what I will do with every enviorment and film. As soon as that is done, it will be a swift process. For the most part, the colouring tests are done and am soon aproaching building the grain structure and filmic curve adjustments.
All the materials will be released by Fall 2013 at the latest. BTW, anyone know what the best way to host the files, since each film will have more or less 50gb of content?
A torrent that you keep seeded works, since trackerless torrents work well these days. A lot of the free sites have limits of some kind (50GB storage is typical). For paid solutions you could use dropbox (which lets you give public URLs for files). That's a buck a gig a year, with no limit on bandwidth but they'll temporarily limit access if you transfer too much via a public link. There are sites like MEGA (500GB storage with 1TB transfer for 10 euro per month), you could look into those. There are VPS servers with lots of bandwidth that you could look at, but they're more expensive since you're renting a VPS rather than just file hosting.
Maybe somebody knows a decent free solution that can handle 150+ GB of data and lots of transfer? All I can think of for free is BitTorrent.
Brooks said:
I think this new color palette is going to make these movies a lot less fatiguing on the eyes to watch
Agreed! Great work so far, I'm as anxious as anyone to see more.
Guspaz said:
I'm not so sure about the colour correction in the speederbike shot. Overall, I like the change in colour in the shot, but there are a bunch of details that are changed/removed:
- The buildings (the triangular ones on either side of the frame) are badly rusting in the original, but the rust is turned into slight dirt smudges in the colour-corrected version
- All the red aircraft warning lights have been entirely removed
- The flames on the left-hand part of the frame appear unnaturally blue in the colour-corrected version
So, the problem with the shot is that the general change in colour cast is nice, but it damaged/removed a bunch of the detailed stuff that shouldn't have been colour corrected (or at least not as much). When you take all this as a whole, these sorts of changes can change the audience's impression when viewing the scene. Different implications about the context and state of the city.
None of that is really a problem, so keep at it.
Once you have an overall colour-look for the film you are happy with, we can go back and redo the colour changes with masking to restore colour nuance where it is required. Putting the warning lights, flames and rust back in to fit with the new colour scheme isn't hard, just time consuming. Getting your overall pallete right first is the right way to go about it, and achieving a consistent look and feel for the film, and keeping the correct colour-emotion for each shot relevant is the important thing so keep going! :)
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Torrents work well, but usenet is great as it stays up for years and can be downloaded at full speed without any need for people seeding etc.
Doing both is the best bet, there are plenty of people that can push it up to usenet for you if need be.
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Episode II Naboo:
Kamino:
Looking good on those last two! Poita has a good point on doing the colour first and worrying about masking the details later.
Usenet might be a nice bonus, but it's not very accessible because people have to pay for a subscription just to get it. So it gets posted there on top of somewhere people can get without buying a subscription, great, but it shouldn't be the only place.
While I have personally rolled my eyes at some of the inanely detailed color issue discussions that happen on this site, I must fully admit that in that Naboo shot, the colors just look... more correct? Right? Better? I am not really sure how to describe it. They just seem to more closely match the Star Wars mythos that I have come to know and love. I am definitely starting to appreciate a little more how much role a movie's colors can play.
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Coruscant Meeting:
Kamino Inside with Curve adjust. and grain:
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/13316
Please feel free to comment on the grain as I'm still working on it.
Personally I think that might be too much grain, hard to say how it would look until it's in motion though. To be fair, I'm not a big fan of grain, I kind of consider it a drawback of film (I know in my own still photos it drives me crazy when a shot is really grainy, that's why I used to always use low speed film).
emanswfan said:
Coruscant Meeting:
Look how much more natural the green girl in the back looks. In the original pic she looks like she's glowing in the dark. This is what I mean by the original looking like a cartoon, good job on this!
Brooks said:
Personally I think that might be too much grain, hard to say how it would look until it's in motion though. To be fair, I'm not a big fan of grain, I kind of consider it a drawback of film (I know in my own still photos it drives me crazy when a shot is really grainy, that's why I used to always use low speed film).
Yes, I've been thinking the grain is a bit much at the moment. I'm working on getting it to be smaller and more fine (maybe upscaling everything to 4k, then adding grain, and then downscaling back to 1080p?). I also might add some sharpening before the layer of grain. The PT lacks details and has a horrible digitally softened look due to the crappy prototype HD cameras they were shot on. Even though TPM was mostly shot on 35mm, the horrible DNR ruins it. If I can get the sharpening and grain just right, the picture will appear more filmic and to have much more detail.