Ryan McAvoy said:
You should give JJ's 2 new Treks a go, they're alot of fun. Plus you can be safe in the knowledge that since it takes place in an alternate time stream our old friends are still safe.
Most rate 'Voyage Home' very highly, not me. Sure in isolation it's a very funny lighthearted comedy, but a Star Trek film, I think not. Where is conflict between the characters, the dastardly villain, the agonising moral decisions and of course where are the thrilling space battles?
If ST's 2-4 where a standalone trilogy like the SW:OT, fans would be up in arms about STIV! Can you imagine if we'd walked into theatres in 1983 and discovered that after the epic build up in ANH and ESB, ROTJ had just been Han, Luke, Leia and co d*cking about in 1980s San Francisco and saving some Whales?
btw Would love to see Shatner's much longer cut of ST5 before the studio ripped it apart.
Star Trek TMP and IV are - I'd argue - the most Trek like of the films since the TV series. You don't need another (yawn!) villain of the week or yet another damned space battle for good Trek! And plenty of conflict between Bones and Spock (as always) and Kirk & Spock & McCoy at various points in the story. Plenty of moral decisions too throughout the course of the film; They're saving Earth without the go ahead from Starfleet, and using Time Travel to do it! Trek IV is first & foremost about the characters, and it also had the balls & imagination not to be yet another revenge based story, and had a worthwhile message at heart too. It's Classic Trek! Much of the humour in the 60s series was very goofy at times (esp. the last few mins on the bridge of many episodes), and Trek IV nailed that exact charm/chemistry perfectly. Trek needed lightening up again after the Wrath of Khan and Search For Spock! I loved the environmental theme too, even though it may come over as heavy handed by todays standards.
Interesting how different Treks appeal to different people! :)
Agreed completely on the desire to see a recut/re-edited version of Trek V though, without any budgetary constraints. There's a semi-decent film in there somewhere.
