TMBTM said:
open the movie with a Star destroyer coming from behind the camera like SW 77', only to see that it is completly destroyed, cut in half and that it is an old ruin from an old battle. Plenty of wrecks everywhere. And zoom in to a little ship in the middle of them.Interior ship:
New republic officer: What are we looking for Sir? There's nothing here for decades.
Luke Skywalker: I don't know... I felt something.
I like it. A nice connection to 1977, then quickly showing that a great deal of time has passed. A nod to the Katana fleet.
Laserschwert said:
msycamore said:
they obviously were based on the real Destroyers used in WWI and II, but instead of the sea they are used among the stars, hence Stardestroyer.
I can't remember them being called "sea destroyers" though ;)
We don't have sea-ships either, but we still get space-ships. Although we do have sea-ports AND space-ports... hang we do get air-hips though... I've confused myself lol.
TMBTM said:
Jaitea said:
I hope that the next trilogy open with the same craft like the OT, it would be cool to open Ep 7 with a Star Destroyer.....only to reveal it painted with Republic livery, perhaps policing.
Yeah, but I could imagine it in a more ironic way. Like open the movie with a Star destroyer coming from behind the camera like SW 77', only to see that it is completly destroyed, cut in half and that it is an old ruin from an old battle. Plenty of wrecks everywhere. And zoom in to a little ship in the middle of them.
Interior ship:
New republic officer: What are we looking for Sir? There's nothing here for decades.
Luke Skywalker: I don't know... I felt something.
YES YES YES YES! JJ are you listening? Open your movie like this! ^
I'm thinking what the McGuffin aboard the Stardestroyer is now.
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Funny, only after reading Jaitea's post did it occur to me how much the bridge of JJ's Enterprise resembles the bridge of a Mon Cal Star Cruiser.
Oh, and ditto on the whole "Star Destroyer" naming confusion thing. I never realized that until today, feel like a total idiot now.
Ryan McAvoy said:
I don't wanna see new republic Star Destroyers. They're too associated with evil to suddenly be good. Imagine a shot of Luke standing on the bridge of one, he'd look like a Sith lord simply by association.
It's not without precedent.
Anchorhead said:
Ryan McAvoy said:
I don't wanna see new republic Star Destroyers. They're too associated with evil to suddenly be good. Imagine a shot of Luke standing on the bridge of one, he'd look like a Sith lord simply by association.
It's not without precedent.
That was a one off ship taken in a hostile boarding action.
e.g. There's a difference between sneaking onto Endor aboard the captured shuttle Tydirium in a covert operation and the New Republic flying around everywhere in evil looking Imperial shuttles.
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I'm betting we'll see completely new designs. There wasn't much (any?) overlap of vehicle designs between the OT and PT. Sure, they foreshadowed the OT vehicles in the designs of the PT, but we never blatantly saw an X-Wing or TIE fighter flying around. Even the big triangle-shaped attack ships that showed up in AotC weren't called "Star Destroyers" until RotS.
Within both trilogies, we see certain ships make recurring appearances. The N-1 fighters from TPM show up again in AotC. The LAAT gunships from AotC show up again in RotS. The Trade Federation cruisers show up in all three PT films. The OT is full of X-Wings, TIE fighters and Star Destroyers. We'll probably see designs in Ep7 that get used in the rest of the ST.
Fang Zei said:
There wasn't much (any?) overlap of vehicle designs between the OT and PT. Sure, they foreshadowed the OT vehicles in the designs of the PT, but we never blatantly saw an X-Wing or TIE fighter flying around.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Fang Zei said:
There wasn't much (any?) overlap of vehicle designs between the OT and PT. Sure, they foreshadowed the OT vehicles in the designs of the PT, but we never blatantly saw an X-Wing or TIE fighter flying around.
That's because the PT was dumbfuck bullshit made by a creatively-bankrupt revisionist asshat. Departing as far as possible from its stillborn tropes is a definate must.
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DuracellEnergizer said:
Fang Zei said:
There wasn't much (any?) overlap of vehicle designs between the OT and PT. Sure, they foreshadowed the OT vehicles in the designs of the PT, but we never blatantly saw an X-Wing or TIE fighter flying around.
That's because the PT was dumbfuck bullshit made by a creatively-bankrupt revisionist asshat. Departing as far as possible from its stillborn tropes is a definate must.
Please, give detail, because for all the flaws of the prequels, I don't think going a far as possible from the prequels actually results in any good in the context of ship design. Most prequels ships are actually pretty awesome, and probably a good indicator of where Episode VII should go, assuming the New Republic is doing well 35 years later. Would be rather silly for ship design to remain stagnant and militaristic if there has been a rather peaceful Republic, unless they indeed are still using old Imperial Ships. Hopefully more practical models, but the design itself should be different than OT. If the Republic ends up being rather behind, and decides to revel in nostalgia of an era of oppressiveimperial rule, then sure, I can see being less like the PT and more like the OT, but otherwise no.
Ryan McAvoy said:
That was a one off ship taken in a hostile boarding action.
e.g. There's a difference between sneaking onto Endor aboard the captured shuttle Tydirium in a covert operation and the New Republic flying around everywhere in evil looking Imperial shuttles.
It may have been a one-of, but it still worked. A former war ship being used for good.
I'm with Silverwook on this one. It should be done because within the Star Wars universe (or any sci-fi universe), it would be done. You wouldn't let that much technology and ability go to waste after a war.
You might even sell one into the private sector. If they can maintain it, crew it, and use it - why not?....
valinkrai said:
Please, give detail, because for all the flaws of the prequels, I don't think going a far as possible from the prequels actually results in any good in the context of ship design.
DuracellEnergizer said:
valinkrai said:
Please, give detail, because for all the flaws of the prequels, I don't think going a far as possible from the prequels actually results in any good in the context of ship design.
I specifically mentioned moving away from the PT's tropes, not its concept of ship design (though if that were to happen, I couldn't care less).
Ah. Fair enough.
After the battle of Endor, I would imagine that the Empire would have initially survived and attempted to fight on for a few years. During those transitional years, the alliance probably would have commandeered imperial ships/supplies. But even if it took ten years for the New Republic to gain its footing, that still leaves a good 20+ years for them to build up their own armada (although I dont necessarily mean warships, per se). So I wouldn't want to see any imperial ships being used by the Republic.
That triangular shape in general has always represented some sort of evil. It was our first real introduction to war time and the evils that come with it. I hope they avoid that shape for most of the sequel trilogy, aside from maybe smaller hints here and there.
This thread makes Triangle Man sad. But not as sad as Person Man.
But what about "The Man"?
Looks pretty jovial to me. I can't say the same for his lady friend, however ...
Stallone just announced Harrison Ford for Expendables 3 in August next year. If it's anything like the other Expendables films, Harrison will be training to be at the peak of fitness.
Excellent prep for VII. Hope the whip and/or a hip worn mauser makes an appearance!
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Thought this was pretty good, the upcoming onslaught of all things Star Wars sounds exciting:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/08/07/star-wars-episode-vii-a-newer-hope
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Has anybody considered that JJ might lead off the new sequels with the idea that although the Death Star was destroyed, Vader and Palpatine killed and the Imperial fleet driven off... that the Empire is still fully in control under a new ruler?
Maybe things in the galaxy have got even worse. Maybe the defeat at Endor caused the Imperial governers to close ranks and go on a scorched earth rampage. Assasinating the governments of planets like Mon Calimari, Sullust and Corellia. Installing martial law accross the universe, perhaps the Rebellion died away and are only just starting to rebuild their forces.
Most seem to assume it's going to remnants or total peace. But the original Yub Nub ending left it very ambiguous. I'm not saying this is what I want to see but it's possible.
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Ryan McAvoy said:
Has anybody considered that JJ might lead off the new sequels with the idea that although the Death Star was destroyed, Vader and Palpatine killed and the Imperial fleet driven off... that the Empire is still fully in control under a new ruler?
Maybe things in the galaxy have got even worse. Maybe the defeat at Endor caused the Imperial governers to close ranks and go on a scorched earth rampage. Assasinating the governments of planets like Mon Calimari, Sullust and Corellia. Installing martial law accross the universe, perhaps the Rebellion died away and are only just starting to rebuild their forces.
Most seem to assume it's going to remnants or total peace. But the original Yub Nub ending left it very ambiguous. I'm not saying this is what I want to see but it's possible.
I don't think the original ending is the one we should assume though, or even consider a realistic option. I think it's pretty clear from the Blu-ray ending that at the very least at some point in the nearish future after RotJ the Empire fell, unless it's farther into the future than the sequels, which I doubt. Maybe the Empire had a resurgence, but I really don't see this as possible.
I'm sure anakin will be appearing, which is sort of logic within the structure of the saga. I wander what will they do with Ben and Alec Guiness.
Ryan McAvoy said:
Has anybody considered that JJ might lead off the new sequels with the idea that although the Death Star was destroyed, Vader and Palpatine killed and the Imperial fleet driven off... that the Empire is still fully in control under a new ruler?
Maybe things in the galaxy have got even worse. Maybe the defeat at Endor caused the Imperial governers to close ranks and go on a scorched earth rampage. Assasinating the governments of planets like Mon Calimari, Sullust and Corellia. Installing martial law accross the universe, perhaps the Rebellion died away and are only just starting to rebuild their forces.
Most seem to assume it's going to remnants or total peace. But the original Yub Nub ending left it very ambiguous. I'm not saying this is what I want to see but it's possible.
I just posted an idea similar to this on the scriptwriting section (Jedi Dawn). I would definitely like something like this to happen if they're going to be throwing the EU out the window. In Jedi Dawn, for instance, the opening crawl establishes that the "Emperor" on the 2nd Death Star was just a clone of the true Emperor, who now rules the galaxy with an iron fist.
The biggest problem with the new trilogy is that you have to introduce a new set of villains, while having a glut of old heroes. This solves both problems quite neatly.
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Neverar, that's actually reminiscent of the original plan for the ST circa 1980. Wasn't Luke gonna defeat the emperor and vader in VI and then go off and find the actual real big baddie in VII or am I remembering wrong?
Fang Zei said:
Neverar, that's actually reminiscent of the original plan for the ST circa 1980. Wasn't Luke gonna defeat the emperor and vader in VI and then go off and find the actual real big baddie in VII or am I remembering wrong?
I could be wrong about this, but at least one version of the original plan involved the sequel trilogy being about both Luke and Vader searching for Luke's sister, who wasn't actually planned to be Leia at the time, and trying to be the first to find her. In this version it would have taken more than three movies to take down the empire, and presumably the Emperor would have stuck around longer, too. That may have had something to do with the 12 part version of the Saga that Lucas was talking about early on, though.