Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD** — Page 121

There had better be. I've gotten sick of that place. The only movie we don't see it in is ESB.

I suppose the prequels ruined my enjoyment of Tatooine, but I would rather not see it at all. There are so many neat places in the galaxy that we could see and I would prefer only seeing one or two planets that we've seen before, and no remote planets like Tatooine, Dagobah, Hoth, etc. that have already had a lot of screen time.

corellian77 said:

Huh... I wonder where IGN got that screen grab from.  It's certainly not from any official source (BD, GOUT), is it?

It's not a screenshot of any VHS, DVD, or Blu-Ray, but it is a picture that I've seen in many places.

http://entertainment.ca.msn.com/celebs/unknown-actress-becomes-frontrunner-for-female-lead-in-star-wars-1/?ocid=binganswers

If it's true that she plays a descendant of Obi-Wan, does this mean they're doing away with the whole "Jedi are forbidden to love" thing!?

Not necessarily. Lucas himself came up with the retcon that the PT-era Jedi, while never allowed to fall in love or have long-term relationships, still went around having sex and one-night stands*.

*Is it any wonder why I utterly loathe the PT Jedi and Lucas "brilliant" vision? 

Tatooine is the most marketable planet on the franchise. Of course, we will see it in all three sequels because Abrams is all albout marketability. Why do you think he put khan into the latest Star Trek movie?

Tobar said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Not necessarily. Lucas himself came up with the retcon that the PT-era Jedi, while never allowed to fall in love or have long-term relationships, still went around having sex and one-night stands*.

 

*Is it any wonder why I utterly loathe the PT Jedi and Lucas "brilliant" vision? 

 Where did he reveal this? Ô_o

Not sure, but I've come across the quote of him saying as such a few times. I think even the EU's taken to running with the stupid idea. 

DuracellEnergizer said:

Not necessarily. Lucas himself came up with the retcon that the PT-era Jedi, while never allowed to fall in love or have long-term relationships, still went around having sex and one-night stands*.

 

*Is it any wonder why I utterly loathe the PT Jedi and Lucas "brilliant" vision? 

 I think that was always there. It may not be explicit in the OT, but given the monk like lives of Yoda and Obi it might be inferred. 

It's also said pretty plainly in the first draft. To paraphrase:

GENERAL SKYWALKER: Hey Jedi kid. Your dad was never much in the self-control department. You existing is evidence of that. 

Maybe Luke has retired to Tatootine, or is there with his one apprentice. I could dig on that.

ray_afraid said:

TheBoost said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Not necessarily. Lucas himself came up with the retcon that the PT-era Jedi, while never allowed to fall in love or have long-term relationships, still went around having sex and one-night stands*.

 

*Is it any wonder why I utterly loathe the PT Jedi and Lucas "brilliant" vision? 

 I think that was always there. It may not be explicit in the OT, but given the monk like lives of Yoda and Obi it might be inferred.

 But Obi and Yoda weren't living Monk-like lives by choice or because of a code of conduct. They were hiding from the Empire. At least that's always been my reading of the films.

 Agreed, but the idea of these warrior monks being ascetics doesn't exactly come out of left field. 

But ascetics don't have sexual flings. The whole notion of asceticism is to avoid indulgences, not to give in to them.

I agree with TheBoost.

Yoda: A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind.

The only thing it really conflicts with is the EU.

George made the retcon in an attempt to appease EU fans and stupid people asking, "Where do baby Jedi come from if they never fuck?".

The thing that surprised me was how intertwined the Jedi and Republic were in the prequels. I always expected the Jedi to be a separate organization that was called upon whenever there was trouble, sort of like the Justice League.

Furthermore, the movies barely did anything to define the relationship between the Jedi and the Republic. Why, for instance, did the chancellor have to send the jedi to the Naboo blockade in secrecy. Would the senate have normally had vote on sending the Jedi?

I'm hope that Luke ditches the marriage rule and the intertwinement with the Republic. In fact, how about all the Jedi being independent instead of there being a Jedi Order?