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Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD** — Page 109

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Maybe he plays the armour of Darth Vader, possessed by the spirit of a long-dead Dark Lord who was imprisoned within the armour when it was built and reawakened when Luke cremated Vader on Endor.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Maybe he plays the armour of Darth Vader, possessed by the spirit of a long-dead Dark Lord who was imprisoned within the armour when it was built and reawakened when Luke cremated Vader on Endor.

LOL!

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Maybe he plays the armour of Darth Vader, possessed by the spirit of a long-dead Dark Lord who was imprisoned within the armour when it was built and reawakened when Luke cremated Vader on Endor.

TFN would love that.

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I seriously wonder where your collective heads are at sometimes. You hear, "plays a character like Darth Vader" and automatically assume they're sizing him for breathing gear.

Did you stop to think that they might have simply meant he's going to be the film/trilogy's main villain?

Frankly I'm extremely skeptical about any kind of news at the moment. It would be far too easy for people to mix up casting news for VII with Rebels.

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Isn't starwars.com the official source of news regarding the ST? Or are there other official sources besides Disney?

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Tobar said:

Frankly I'm extremely skeptical about any kind of news at the moment. It would be far too easy for people to mix up casting news for VII with Rebels.

 

Not to mention that casting for Episode 7 could also be part of a "database" used for the standalone movies.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Maybe he plays the armour of Darth Vader, possessed by the spirit of a long-dead Dark Lord who was imprisoned within the armour when it was built and reawakened when Luke cremated Vader on Endor.

 As long as he's not playing the glove of Darth Vader. ;)

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Ah, The Glove of Darth Vader ... I actually liked that series as a kid and thought Trioculus was a cool villain. Karl Kesel's awesome artwork must be to blame for that.

 

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SilverWook said:

Vector Prime got a lot of publicity when it was published in 1999. IIRC, it was the only EU novel to have a tv spot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOV2dGdFbGk

I find it pathetic that the first and only Star Wars novel to receive advertising on television is an entry from one of the worst Star Wars series ever.

 Shadows of the Empire had a commercial.  The Vector prime one was a big deal however because it was the first time Hamill revisited his role since 1983.

Long before the sequel trilogy was a glimmer in the Disney companies eyes.  People pretty much figured he would never do the role again.

He had turned down voicing the character in several Lucasarts games as far as i can remember.

I find it funny Mark Hamill played the Joker for twenty years and now is returning to the Luke Skywalker role he had distanced himself from.

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skyjedi2005 said:

I find it funny Mark Hamill played the Joker for twenty years and now is returning to the Luke Skywalker role he had distanced himself from.

I don't understand what you're finding so funny. Are you implying he should be ashamed of his work as the Joker?

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No actor wants to be typecast.  Is all i was saying.  He wanted to be seen as an actor, not as Luke Skywalker a non existing fictional character.

He wanted to be treated seriously like Harrison Ford was after star wars and Indiana Jones he became a respected actor.

Making fun of the Joker role are you serious.  Its likely he will be remembered as the best person not live action to ever play the role.

I pointed it out because it was something he did to live outside the Luke Skywalker shadow.

Like when he did the play Amadeus and wanted people to see him as as Mozart not Luke Skywalker.

Its funny because literally no one George Lucas included thought Mark Hamill would ever return to the role or that the sequel trilogy would be made.

I am talking about the modern era here, the production years of the prequels, not what they thought in 1983.  Where George had a vague notion of doing sequels in like 1982 before his marriage broke apart and star wars cost him literally everything he cared for but his money.

As for the actor thing it makes sense were one an actor.  Its like every time someone walks up to Sean Connery and asks him about being Bond, or Shatner about being Kirk.  As if they did not play other roles.  Same with Harrison ford always being tasked to talk about being either Han Solo or Indiana Jones.

Sometimes actors try to divorce themselves from a role and it ends tragically as in the case of George Reeves, or they embrace it as did Christopher Reeve when the heroism he showed in fighting to live  after his tragic accident became woven into the heroic mythos of superman.

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So this is the villain...?

...seems it's being taken a lot more seriously than all the previous 'unconfirmed' stories.

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NeverarGreat said:

The comics and the movie are two different takes on the character. Different universes. The EU means Expanded Universe, not Different Universe. This is why Lucas specifically forbid writers from delving into the Clone Wars period and tried to make the prequels fit with the EU instead of disregarding it completely. However, since he doesn't have a good grasp of continuity as it is, the effort was rather wasted.

  

The worst thing about this is that in order to UNDERSTAND a movie, you need to read/watch a bunch of related books, comics, mini-series which is a  supportive role, spin-off, instead of relying just on events being properly unfolded in the original movie/movies that should serve the purpose of exploring the main storyline. And THAT storyline should hold the gravity center of depicting various events - not side projects.

 Totally agree and its also quite hilarious that the clone wars were not really shown on screen nor the Jedi purge its all comic books, or video games, cartoons.

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I never got the impression Mark wanted to stay away from Luke completely. He spoofed himself on The Simpsons, performing in dinner theater dressed as Luke. And he's done Luke many times on Robot Chicken in recent years.

One could argue his character in the Wing Commander games is a more gritty take on Luke as well.

If he ever resented Luke, he's clearly made peace with it a long time ago.

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NeverarGreat said: The EU means Expanded Universe, not Different Universe. This is why Lucas specifically forbid writers from delving into the Clone Wars period and tried to make the prequels fit with the EU instead of disregarding it completely.

This is why Lucas should be ignored. Lucas called it EU, but Disney should call it DU (different universe).

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darklordoftech said:

NeverarGreat said: The EU means Expanded Universe, not Different Universe. This is why Lucas specifically forbid writers from delving into the Clone Wars period and tried to make the prequels fit with the EU instead of disregarding it completely.

This is why Lucas should be ignored. Lucas called it EU, but Disney should call it DU (different universe).

I'm torn on this. Disregarding the EU throws away some good stories, while keeping it saddles the movies with a lot of implicit bad story baggage. It comes down to the kind of movie they're intending to make. If it is truly intended to be a spiritual continuation of the Original Trilogy, I'd say abandon the EU. But if they're going to explicitly acknowledge the Prequel Trilogy, it wouldn't make sense for them to ignore the EU, as the prequels themselves are basically EU, and many (such as myself) would like to think that they never happened at all.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Totally agree and its also quite hilarious that the clone wars were not really shown on screen nor the Jedi purge its all comic books, or video games, cartoons.

But as far as George is concerned, the Jedi Purge was depicted on screen. He envisioned the Purge as being a pathetically short event involving clones simply shooting Jedi in the back like punks, and lo, it was so.

Yes, I know, the Purge really should have been a several-years-long event involving Darth Vader, other darksiders, and various Imperial agents, bounty hunters, and mercenaries tracking down, rounding up, and exterminating Jedi, but that's a different subject for a different post.

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skyjedi2005 said:

He had turned down voicing the character in several Lucasarts games as far as i can remember.

Actually, I was in a panel he did once. Someone asked him if he'd ever be up for reprising Luke in a video game. He said sure but they've never called.

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i always wondered why hamill wasn't in the ROTJ radio drama, since it seemed he had come to terms with the luke character.

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Just thought of this issue, for all the EU fans.

Ep. 7 is going to come out and with it will be a bunch of tie in novels.  These will be new extended takes on characters featured in ep. 7.  Kinda like the prequel novels that centered on Obi Wan's training etc.

They are still coming out with EU novels but eventually these ep. 7 novels will take precedent.  They are probably being written write now.

Are these novels going to be EU since they are after ep 6? Most likely they are starting an alternate timelline.  So at some point Disney will have to announce the EU is done and this new timeline takes over.  So Mara Jade will be erased from existence...

As Doc Brown would say Great Scott!

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Reading that made me so glad I have no interest in EU.

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I disagree with ratpack's prediction. I think the existing EU will comtinue as a separate universe.

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ratpack1961 said:

Just thought of this issue, for all the EU fans.

Ep. 7 is going to come out and with it will be a bunch of tie in novels.  These will be new extended takes on characters featured in ep. 7.  Kinda like the prequel novels that centered on Obi Wan's training etc.

They are still coming out with EU novels but eventually these ep. 7 novels will take precedent.  They are probably being written write now.

Are these novels going to be EU since they are after ep 6? Most likely they are starting an alternate timelline.  So at some point Disney will have to announce the EU is done and this new timeline takes over.  So Mara Jade will be erased from existence...

As Doc Brown would say Great Scott!

I hope the EU writers use the upcoming overhaul of the EU as an opportunity to finally establish the existence of a greater SW Multiverse. There's no reason whatsoever for there to only be a single universe with a single timeline (and never has been).

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Well technically there've been two for over a decade now. All of the stories deemed non-canon fall under "Infinities."

I just hope they wipe everything NJO and up.

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