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Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace (Cracker of Justice Edit)

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What started off as a personal take on the “Anti-Cheese Edit” of The Phantom Menace has now grown into one of the most radical fan edit trilogies out there. So what what makes this fan edit different than any other fan edit?

Opening crawl:

Episode I
THE PHANTOM MENACE

It is an era of peace under
the Galactic Republic.
Over a thousand years
have passed since the
JEDI ORDER vanquished
the evil Sith Lords.

As the Republic depends
more on the strength of
the Jedi, the TRADE
FEDERATION has been
able to threaten the
Republic and establish
a trade blockade on
the small planet of Naboo.

Jedi Master Qui-Gon Jinn,
and his padawan
apprentice Obi-Wan
Kenobi, have been sent to
the planet, in hopes of
saving it from the grip of
the Trade Federation…

  1. Different Opening:
    NOTE: The clip is outdated and there’s a few things I plan to do differently from what I have shown, but I kept it because it highlights a lot of changes I plan to keep
    My opening will be nearly identical to the Anti-Cheese Edit’s, except with a few lines here and there, and timing for some things. This video is now obsolete, but I’m keeping it so I can have something to show

  2. Jar Jar is re-dubbed in English, and is referred to as J.J.
    I was originally planning on asking TimStuff to continue his re-dub, but he’s disappeared from the internet and probably has better things to do than message back. I took his lines for his video, and applied the character to the rest of the film. In my opinion, he is a much more humorous character how he is portrayed. I’ll remove any mentioning of the words “Jar Jar”, so that the only time you hear his name is when he introduces himself. EDIT: Originally I had a video here, but it was pretty bad, and when I actually start editing the film again, I’ll either do it myself or find someone else to do it.

  3. Additional footage/diologue
    No, not just deleted scenes, but there are quite a few a those. I’m talking footage (or dialogue) from other peoples’ videos. What videos, you ask? First, I got Auralnauts’ “Jedi Party” video (which if you haven’t seen, I highly recommend it; it’s hilarious)- I took two clips from the video, for humorous purposes: Qui-Gon saying “Hello, ladies” and Obi-Wan being told there was a bar on Tatooine. They’re both pretty funny, and add humor to the most un-funny movie in the series. Another clip I added is a very short scene from the fan film DARTH MAUL: Apprentice, taking only the ship flying to the planet, the one Jedi looking around, fighting Darth Maul, and getting sliced. This is the first appearance of Darth Maul in the fan-edit. Both of these are planned, and I intend on getting permission before releasing the edit.

Now here are some things that aren’t exclusive to this edit, but still noteworthy.

  1. Palpatine creates an army before the assault on Naboo
    I’m basically ripping this from Smithers’ edit, but it’s a really good idea, and the more I applied it to the rest of my edits, the more it improved the plot of AOTC. Scene-by-scene; Amidala tells Palpatine she’s leaving, she leaves (also ripped from Smithers), then Anakin gets rejected by the council, Palpatine creates an Army of the Republic, then the Jedi go to Naboo with Anakin. Yeah I’m totally ripping him off here, but I like his idea, and I’ll find a way to make it more “my own”.

  2. No C-3PO nor Darth Sidious
    I kept both of them in my original edit (which used an illegal source and wasn’t very different from other edits), but I realized how stupid it is that Darth Vader made C-3PO (this is how I feel about that) and how much Sidious makes the Federation viceroys look like total pussies. As a result of this, you don’t see Darth Maul until the clip from DARTH MAUL: Apprentice, and it makes him much more threatening of a character off the bat.

  3. Jar Jar is the only Gungan- no Otoh Gunga, no battle
    This was a really satisfying edit, since it was so easy to do and made this movie, by itself, 20% more tolerable. Some of Qui-Gon’s best quotes are in this scene, which is sad, but makes you wonder what Lucas was doing when he put Qui-Gon’s best quotes in a submarine when they’re swimming away from giant fish. I like the idea of J.J. having some beef back home, but the character of Boss Nass is so incredibly stupid that it wasn’t worth it. Also the big battle is taken out, and the Naboo assault now only has three plots instead of four.

  4. OT-style rescoring
    This along with other things, will be applied to the whole series of edits. TPM imo had the worst least OT-styled soundtrack of any Star Wars movie, and adding OT feels to the movie, I think, will help with the overall feel of the movie.

  5. Regrading and re-coloring (thanks to kk650)
    I hope to use kk650’s The Phantom Menace Regraded as my main source for the edit, if I get his permission, and if I can get my hands on the 16GB version. This includes adding film grain back into the film, and recoloring nearly the entire thing. Very good for keeping the OT-style color palette

EDIT 12/20/2017 (updated 1/2/18): I originally created this edit from an MP4 I torrented (yeah, yeah, I know. I was 16 when I first started on this, okay?), but I’ve since learned my lesson. If I get my hands on kk650’s TPM Regraded 16GB version, I can get started on the edit right away; if not, I will have to rip it from my aunt and uncle’s Blu-Rays if they let me (which they probably will). Who knows?

I will release a re-done script soon once I know my full plan for TPM and AOTC. I got a copy of the public 5GB version of TPM Regraded so I will use that to create previews (YEEEEEE), but I won’t start the actual edit until I get my hands on a higher-quality version (even though this is light years ahead of my LAST source…). Expect various clips soon!

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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Seems that first youtube link was already taken down. Use vimeo for previews like that.

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Not a big fan of the jar jar redub. It’s just ass strange and off-putting as in the theatrical release to me. Even moreso since his lips don’t match his words. Regardless, I’m interested to see what you do here.

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I don’t know what it is with the redub, but I cant make it not off-putting. Strange since I want his original voice gone. Dont think its your fault though.

Also interesting: all the JJ redubs I’ve heard so far have been Irish? Whats up with that lol.

Apart from that, good luck! Heres to ever more radical and hopefully successful prequel edits!

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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Alright, the video link has been changed, and it works now. I uploaded it to my Vimeo account, so it should stay there.

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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Wow, just watched the opening sequence and your dub (and subs) of the Neimoidians is incredible. Best I’ve seen, certainly.

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

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[liamnotneeson said:]

  1. Different Opening: (skip to about 1:50 for the good stuff)
    No, not a different opening crawl- my goal is to fix the movie, not rename it. When I say different opening, I mean the start of the movie. In this edit, the inside of the TF battleship is color-corrected to look like the OT, similar to Aalenfae. On top of that, after the Jedi arrive, the Viceroys (who have been re-dubbed and subbed) talk to Queen Amidala, and then invade the planet as the Jedi watch from the window. The droids then storm the room and the Jedi escape, as the army is already invading the planey. I was inspired by TFA to do it this way, and the pacing is much better.

I know a fanedit is first to please the one who has made it, so here is only my opinion: it doesn’t work. I’m not mentioning the jarring sound montage here and there than you can fix in subsequent versions, I really mean the scene ordering you’ve chosen, as well as how you’ve redubbed (and subtitled) the vilains.

  1. the Neimoidians are cowards, and they look that way. They don’t have Neimoidians guards until EpIII - who don’t fight anyone anyway - and the viceroy is never seen grabbing a gun or doing something badass. Hence their new lines don’t fit with the way they look and behave;

  2. the Jedi reaction to the invasion is weird: they don’t seem to give a shit about it, like “oh, look there: an invasion army. Gosh !” “let’s sit and have a drink, we’ll discuss that later with the viceroy”. By doing this, Qui-Gon looks like an idiot, and at least in the original version he’s a strong character. You show him weak and dumb in your opening, so I don’t think it works at all;

  3. then the viceroy decides to kill the Jedi after starting the invasion: why ? Lucas is a terrible screenwriter but he once was a great editor, and the opening of EpI, in its original version, is well ordered (it’s really only after the landing that his script becomes shitty);

  4. finally, the assassination attempt has failed, the Jedi escape, and they want to warn the Naboo… of an invasion that’s has been occuring for an hour or so and for which they didn’t react when they witnessed it (they sit and drank tea).

I don’t want to be a complete dick who over critizises, but the way you’ve reordered the scene is in fact way worse that the theatrical version.

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MalàStrana said:

I know a fanedit is first to please the one who has made it, so here is only my opinion: it doesn’t work. I’m not mentioning the jarring sound montage here and there than you can fix in subsequent versions, I really mean the scene ordering you’ve chosen, as well as how you’ve redubbed (and subtitled) the vilains.

You have some good points about the changes. I might make some changes about the ordering of scenes, especially involving the Jedi sitting down. That’s definitely subject to change

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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The only way I believe it can work would be to slightly delay the invasion:

  • Jedi arrival, they look at the window, small talk, etc.
  • TC14 reports the ambassadors are Jedi
  • communication from the planet
  • the viceroy decides to invade the planet and he orders at the same time to kill the jedi
  • “captain look out”, dioxis scene, etc.

That way you have the invasion and the assassination attempt happening at the very same time. You’ll still have an opening faster than the original tha way, without the sitting and drinking tea being an issue.

edit: as a matter of fact, you just need to remove the “it’s an invasion army” cut scene to fix the main issues of your montage.

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MalàStrana said:

The only way I believe it can work would be to slighty delay the invasion:

  • Jedi arrival, they look at the window, small talk, etc.
  • TC14 reports the ambassadors are Jedi
  • communication from the planet
  • the viceroy decides to invade the planet and he orders at the same time to kill the jedi
  • “captain look out”, dioxis scene, etc.

Thats in my view also the best structure, better than both your current one and the original.

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MalàStrana said:

The only way I believe it can work would be to slightly delay the invasion:

  • Jedi arrival, they look at the window, small talk, etc.
  • TC14 reports the ambassadors are Jedi
  • communication from the planet
  • the viceroy decides to invade the planet and he orders at the same time to kill the jedi
  • “captain look out”, dioxis scene, etc.

That way you have the invasion and the assassination attempt happening at the very same time. You’ll still have an opening faster than the original tha way, without the sitting and drinking tea being an issue.

That’s what I was thinking as well

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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Updated a ton of stuff in the topic: OT rescoring, Jar Jar being renamed J.J, the entire additional footage section, and lots of grammar mistakes

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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When it comes to the opening scene, you have the right idea but the audio is rough which makes the cuts seem jarring. I like the scene where the old man says “invasion” but in order to make it a heavier line I would leave a 1-2 second pause before he says it and when he does say it, cut to Queen Amidala and hold the shot there for a few seconds as the music builds. Afterward you will see the army going to toward the city/palace rather than the forest (this shot: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/0b/Trade_Federation_Droid_Army.png/revision/latest?cb=20140622175536) and save the forest sequence for when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan meet Jar Jar.

If you aren’t already, I strongly recommend editing with 6.1 channel audio, it will make things move along much more smoothly and moving lines around will be much more seamless.

Overall I thought the idea and the goal was good, but I think my suggestions would make them work better.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:

When it comes to the opening scene, you have the right idea but the audio is rough which makes the cuts seem jarring. I like the scene where the old man says “invasion” but in order to make it a heavier line I would leave a 1-2 second pause before he says it and when he does say it, cut to Queen Amidala and hold the shot there for a few seconds as the music builds. Afterward you will see the army going to toward the city/palace rather than the forest (this shot: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/0/0b/Trade_Federation_Droid_Army.png/revision/latest?cb=20140622175536) and save the forest sequence for when Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan meet Jar Jar.

I can easily do that, since the music is originally on Amidala in the movie

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If you aren’t already, I strongly recommend editing with 6.1 channel audio, it will make things move along much more smoothly and moving lines around will be much more seamless.

I’m not sure what that is, but I will definitely look into it!

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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How would 6.1 make a difference? And where are you finding it?

Or did you mean 5.1?

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I’ve never ripped mine so I don’t know, but I don’t see how 6.1 would be of any benefit above the 5.1. The extra channel is center surround, which won’t have much of use. Certainly not dialogue.

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TV’s Frink said:

I’ve never ripped mine so I don’t know, but I don’t see how 6.1 would be of any benefit above the 5.1. The extra channel is center surround, which won’t have much of use. Certainly not dialogue.

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Well you know what I mean anyway, editing surround sound is easier.

Final Cut Pro has 5.1 and 7.1 but not 6.1- which should I use?

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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Smithers said:

Do 5.1, unless you have a need for an extra channel, which you probably don’t.

With the video source that I got, Final Cut Pro didn’t give me the option to put it into surround 😕 Some clips were in dual mono, so I got that fixed, though. I have a new version of the opening ready to upload to Vimeo, but the wifi currently isn’t working on that computer

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.

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liamnotneeson said:

Smithers said:

Do 5.1, unless you have a need for an extra channel, which you probably don’t.

With the video source that I got, Final Cut Pro didn’t give me the option to put it into surround 😕 Some clips were in dual mono, so I got that fixed, though. I have a new version of the opening ready to upload to Vimeo, but the wifi currently isn’t working on that computer

You could rip your dvd or blu-ray and mux the stereo audio to your video source

Also, I’m looking forward to your new intro!

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:

You could rip your dvd or blu-ray and mux the stereo audio to your video source

Also, I’m looking forward to your new intro!

I’ll definitely do that for AOTC and ROTS, but I don’t want to re-edit this movie for a 3rd time with another source. Also, the new opening is now up. Check the main post

No offense, kid, but I don’t think you know how to boil water.