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It’s what a lot of Christian monks do as well. Would have fit well with the prequel idea of the Jedi being a quasi-monastic order.

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ThrorII said:

NeverarGreat said:

I dunno, Darth Vader is pretty evil-sounding. It makes more sense that Anakin changed his name at some point to something more sinister. The issue is that Darth became a title given to any goofball with a red lightsaber instead of a unique first name.

I always thought it would have made sense that Jedi adopt a new ‘Jedi Knight’ name after being knighted - kind of how Pope’s take a new name. That way “Ben” Kenobi would have been his rightful name, and “Obi-Wan” was his Jedi name.

Which would explain why Anakin Skywalker took “Darth Vader” as his name - once he was ‘no longer the learner’ - it was his new name to indicate he had completed his training.

Exactly. Such a waste of potential there.

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The second draft of TPM played with that - “Obi-Wan Kenobi” was the name of the old Jedi Knight who was killed by Darth Maul, and “Qui-Gon Jinn” was his apprentice, who took on his fallen Master’s name in memory of him when he became a Knight.

Oddly enough, Kieron Gillen (who’s written some Darth Vader comics in the Disney era) also used that idea in his Warhammer 40,000 comic about Marneus Calgar - who it turns out was originally named Tacitan as a kid, but took on the name of a fellow Space Marine cadet who was slain by a treacherous instructor.

“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”

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ThrorII said:

NeverarGreat said:

I dunno, Darth Vader is pretty evil-sounding. It makes more sense that Anakin changed his name at some point to something more sinister. The issue is that Darth became a title given to any goofball with a red lightsaber instead of a unique first name.

I always thought it would have made sense that Jedi adopt a new ‘Jedi Knight’ name after being knighted - kind of how Pope’s take a new name. That way “Ben” Kenobi would have been his rightful name, and “Obi-Wan” was his Jedi name.

Which would explain why Anakin Skywalker took “Darth Vader” as his name - once he was ‘no longer the learner’ - it was his new name to indicate he had completed his training.

I’ve always liked that idea in the context of prequel rewrites, but Vader gets more offended than would make sense if that were the case when he’s called Anakin in RotJ. I also thought it might be interesting if Anakin Skywalker was the Jedi name like suggested above, but then Luke calling himself Skywalker would be a little weird, unless it’s not.

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I just noticed Jeremy Bulloch is part of the ESB imperial troop, during the scene that he’s also playimg Boba Fett. I think I realised because I’d spotted his For Your Eyes Only cameo recently.

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I never noticed how the V-19 Landspeeder leaves the Battle of Naboo right after firing on the AAT.

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My whole life, I thought that, when Obi-Wan and Luke were stopped by stormtroopers in Mos Eisley, and a trooper asked them about their droids, Obi-Wan had said “Not for sale, if you want them.”

Only recently, when I watched the movie with subtitles on for the first time, did I realize he said “They’re up for sale if you want them.”

Also, I didn’t realize that Luke said “Well, more wealth than you can imagine!” to Han. I always heard what he said as “Well, more well than you can imagine!”

And it took me a long time to notice that C-3PO was holding a cleaning rag and wiping himself off after his oil bath.

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Servii said:

Also, I didn’t realize that Luke said “Well, more wealth than you can imagine!” to Han. I always heard what he said as “Well, more well than you can imagine!”

I would go so far as to say that this was a straight-up bad take by Hamill because I still can only hear ‘well’.

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Speaking of misheard lines, this one springs to mind from TESB:
“You truly belong here with us among the clouds,” said by Lando to Leia in Cloud City.

It wasn’t until relatively recently that I read the “among the clouds” on subtitles somewhere. For over 30 years, I thought he said, “You truly belong here with us modern class.”

Anyone else caught out by this? Link here:
https://youtu.be/qmldiaQD1lE?t=109

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Servii said:

Also, I didn’t realize that Luke said “Well, more wealth than you can imagine!” to Han. I always heard what he said as “Well, more well than you can imagine!”

Same. And I agree with NevararGreat, the word is skimmed over a little bit. George’s favourite direction - faster with more intensity - has some drawbacks!

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Bluto said:

Speaking of misheard lines, this one springs to mind from TESB:
“You truly belong here with us among the clouds,” said by Lando to Leia in Cloud City.

It wasn’t until relatively recently that I read the “among the clouds” on subtitles somewhere. For over 30 years, I thought he said, “You truly belong here with us modern class.”

Well when I was 9 I thought the Death Star was “orbiting the planet of maximum philosophy”…

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“I’m a Jedi like my father before me” is a direct callback to " I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father". I can’t believe this never registered with me consciously until now.

As well as both Luke and Anakin learn the same lessons in their first two films but make a different choice in the third film of their respective trilogy.

The Phantom Menace and A New Hope:

“Feel, don’t think. Trust your instincts.”

Attack of the Clones and The Empire Strikes Back:

“Patience. Think.”

Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi:

Anakin falls to the temptations and succumbs to his emotions while Luke succeeds in finding a rational way to resolve the emotional conflict facing him. In turn Anakin does the same and they both find balance.

"Pleasure’s fun. It’s great, but you can’t keep it going forever; just accept the fact that it’s here and it’s gone, and maybe then again, it will come back, and you’ll get to do it again. Joy lasts forever. Pleasure is purely self-centered. It’s all about your pleasure: it’s about you. It’s a selfish, self-centered emotion, that is created by a self-centered motive of greed. Joy is compassion. Joy is giving yourself to somebody else, or something else. And it’s a kind of thing that is, in its subtlety and lowness, much more powerful than pleasure. You get hung up on pleasure; you’re doomed. If you pursue joy; you will find everlasting happiness.” - George Lucas

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Stardust1138 said:

“I’m a Jedi like my father before me” is a direct callback to " I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father". I can’t believe this never registered with me consciously until now.

As well as both Luke and Anakin learn the same lessons in their first two films but make a different choice in the third film of their respective trilogy.

The Phantom Menace and A New Hope:

“Feel, don’t think. Trust your instincts.”

Attack of the Clones and The Empire Strikes Back:

“Patience. Think.”

Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi:

Anakin falls to the temptations and succumbs to his emotions while Luke succeeds in finding a rational way to resolve the emotional conflict facing him. In turn Anakin does the same and they both find balance.

It’s like a dialectic. Thesis -> Antithesis -> Synthesis. The middle film in the trilogy offers a counterpoint to what the first film established, then the third film has the protagonist either succeed or fail to reconcile those two conflicting points. For Luke, his initial Thesis was “I will become a Jedi like my father.” The counterpoint of that is learning what an evil man his father turned into. Then the synthesis comes when he resolves to believe in the good in his father, fulfilling the ideal of what his father could have been, which in turn helps redeem Anakin. And he learns from experience that there’s a time to take action and follow your feelings (A New Hope), but there’s also a time to take a step back and think more carefully (Empire).

And, in a way, the OT retroactively offers a counterpoint/antithesis to the prequels. By giving us a similar series of events with an inverted outcome.

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Servii said:

Stardust1138 said:

“I’m a Jedi like my father before me” is a direct callback to " I want to learn the ways of the Force and become a Jedi like my father". I can’t believe this never registered with me consciously until now.

As well as both Luke and Anakin learn the same lessons in their first two films but make a different choice in the third film of their respective trilogy.

The Phantom Menace and A New Hope:

“Feel, don’t think. Trust your instincts.”

Attack of the Clones and The Empire Strikes Back:

“Patience. Think.”

Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi:

Anakin falls to the temptations and succumbs to his emotions while Luke succeeds in finding a rational way to resolve the emotional conflict facing him. In turn Anakin does the same and they both find balance.

It’s like a dialectic. Thesis -> Antithesis -> Synthesis. The middle film in the trilogy offers a counterpoint to what the first film established, then the third film has the protagonist either succeed or fail to reconcile those two conflicting points. For Luke, his initial Thesis was “I will become a Jedi like my father.” The counterpoint of that is learning what an evil man his father turned into. Then the synthesis comes when he resolves to believe in the good in his father, fulfilling the ideal of what his father could have been, which in turn helps redeem Anakin. And he learns from experience that there’s a time to take action and follow your feelings (A New Hope), but there’s also a time to take a step back and think more carefully (Empire).

Absolutely. That’s a great analogy and way of looking at it. It’s strange in a way. It never fully registered with me consciously just how much they connect to one another in this way. I think it’s from being so entranced by the visual parallels between them and the nuances that Luke is more like Padme personality wise while Leia takes more after Anakin. Yet both Luke and Leia have their own motives and sense of self.

"Pleasure’s fun. It’s great, but you can’t keep it going forever; just accept the fact that it’s here and it’s gone, and maybe then again, it will come back, and you’ll get to do it again. Joy lasts forever. Pleasure is purely self-centered. It’s all about your pleasure: it’s about you. It’s a selfish, self-centered emotion, that is created by a self-centered motive of greed. Joy is compassion. Joy is giving yourself to somebody else, or something else. And it’s a kind of thing that is, in its subtlety and lowness, much more powerful than pleasure. You get hung up on pleasure; you’re doomed. If you pursue joy; you will find everlasting happiness.” - George Lucas

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Not a movie, but in Star Wars The Clone Wars season 5 ep14, we get to see Sidious’ eyes from within his hood. This kinda scares me!

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Two things from Vader’s Redemption/the Emperor’s Death

Right before Vader/Anakin picks up the Emperor (as he looks down at Luke one last time), Luke shouts “Father!” desperately one last time. And when Anakin does pick up the Emperor, the Emperor screams “Anakin, you murderer!”

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G&G-Fan said:

Two things from Vader’s Redemption/the Emperor’s Death

Right before Vader/Anakin picks up the Emperor (as he looks down at Luke one last time), Luke shouts “Father!” desperately one last time. And when Anakin does pick up the Emperor, the Emperor screams “Anakin, you murderer!”

That never happened

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JackNapier said:

That never happened

Yeah it’s been pointed out to me. I guess what happened is that I heard someone say he said it and then in my mind I shaped the screams to form the words

Luke’s line is legit tho

But another time I misheard something from the OT is when Luke receives the vision of his friends being tortured on Cloud City I always thought Yoda responded to Luke’s question of whether they will die with “If you go to see”, only to realize through subtitles he said “Difficult to see”.

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G&G-Fan said:

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But another time I misheard something from the OT is when Luke receives the vision of his friends being tortured on Cloud City I always thought Yoda responded to Luke’s question of whether they will die with “If you go to see”, only to realize through subtitles he said “Difficult to see”.

That reminds me of Yoda’s following line: “Always in motion is the future.”
For many years, I thought he said, “Always emotion is the future.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt7-WKXL5vw

A quick Google search reveals that this has caught out a number of other people.

However, Google finds no instances of “modern class” for Lando’s “among the clouds” (see my post higher up the page). I seem to be the only one caught out by that one.
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Speaking of small details, does anyone still know what the intercom voice says here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKs0iI68Rx8&t=30s
I have some idea but I still don’t know for sure what he says.

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Another quote misheard by me from the original Star Wars was Leia saying “Somebody has to save our skins!” which I heard as “Somebody has to save us kids!”

Also, for some reason, I thought Han’s line “He’s the brains, sweetheart!” was actually “Leave the brains, sweetheart!”

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Servii said:

“Leave the brains, sweetheart!”

From a certain point of view you were right.

"Pleasure’s fun. It’s great, but you can’t keep it going forever; just accept the fact that it’s here and it’s gone, and maybe then again, it will come back, and you’ll get to do it again. Joy lasts forever. Pleasure is purely self-centered. It’s all about your pleasure: it’s about you. It’s a selfish, self-centered emotion, that is created by a self-centered motive of greed. Joy is compassion. Joy is giving yourself to somebody else, or something else. And it’s a kind of thing that is, in its subtlety and lowness, much more powerful than pleasure. You get hung up on pleasure; you’re doomed. If you pursue joy; you will find everlasting happiness.” - George Lucas

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NeverarGreat said:

“Media Squad, prep your team and check any power (powdered?) supplies.”

Maybe. The sounds change based on what I’m expecting to hear.

I’ve come close to: Perimeter squad, report your team to check gate 90 fox. That doesn’t make sense…

Servii said:

Also, for some reason, I thought Han’s line “He’s the brains, sweetheart!” was actually “Leave the brains, sweetheart!”

I heard it “Peas for brains, sweetheart!” LOL.

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