Sick of Star Wars Prequel bashing....

I'm a little sick of everyone bashing the prequel trilogy. They are utterly mind-blowingly fantastic films. And no, I'm not joking. They're a fantastic trilogy and tragedy (I'm not misspelling any words). The way Palpatine manipulates anakin is excellent, and there's so many awesome action sequences. You get to see the Jedi in their prime, and for those who say the prequels had too much CGI, check this thread, which proves there isn't really too much CGI in the prequel trilogy, except for maybe the clones: http://boards.theforce.net/threads/p...-etc.50017310/. And yes, the story was great, because anakin turning to the dark side is truly moving, and the way Palpatine manipulates anakin into doing so is so cool, especially in episode III when you're just watching and thinking, "no, don't turn to the dark side", but then he does and the effect, regardless of how obvious it is that it was going to happen, is amazing. And the climatic duel on mustafar! Fantastic. They even incorporated a real erupting volcano into that scene! As awesome as the original trilogy is, I think the prequels surpass episodes IV-VI. I look forward to episode VII not so much because I want the film to live up to the originals, as fantastic as they are, but because I want it to live up to the prequels. What do you think about prequel bashing?

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they're alright, too much hyperbole about them being bad. wish lucas stuck to his original notes though. also wish lucas didn't hate the OT so damn much.

OBI-WAN37 said:

(I'm not misspelling any words).

Hey, his argument may be awful, but at least he didn't misspell anything.

OBI-WAN37 said:

And the climatic duel on mustafar!

Well, anyone could spell climactic as climatic--heck, maybe he was referring to the warm climate in which the duel took place, right?  Of course, he missed capitalizing several words (such as proper names and the beginnings of sentences within quotes), improperly formed a sentence out of a dependent clause (see the second quote), and created lengthy sentences filled with commas where we should have periods and new sentences.  Too bad there are other spots where he should have put commas but neglected to do so.  His grammar is poor, his syntax improper (such as incorrect subject-verb agreement), and his supporting evidence incorrect.  For instance, no real volcanoes were filmed for Episode III.  I see no need to even address the actual substance of the argument for two reasons: 1) unless he can present it more effectively, it is not really worth debating; 2) everyone else who reads this thread will tear his argument to shreds anyway.

And there could be a third reason: because it's Sam.

(Actually, I don't know for sure that's true--I think I've turned into a modern-day McCarthy, suspecting everyone of subversive Sam-unist activities.  Please don't ban me for my juvenile speculation.)

I watched all three PT films only because they had Star Wars in the title and I kept coming back on the chance they might get better; something I typically never do.  They did not.

I'm hoping the sequel trilogy makes no mention of that disaster of a galaxy.  The OT lives forever on film.  Hopefully the sequel trilogy builds on that.  The PT is best left to everyone's imagination.

OBI-WAN37 said:

 And yes, the story was great, because anakin turning to the dark side is truly moving, and the way Palpatine manipulates anakin into doing so is so cool, especially in episode III when you're just watching and thinking, "no, don't turn to the dark side", but then he does and the effect, regardless of how obvious it is that it was going to happen, is amazing.

I can say with complete honesty, that I never thought or felt this.

The moment I saw what the film makers were doing with Anakin Skywalker, I wanted no more.  I wanted them to hurry up and bring on Vader.  There was nothing in Hayden Christensen's acting or characterization that compelled me to want to see more of him.  To be fair, that may be more on the filmmakers than Christensen himself.

OBI-WAN37 said:

I'm a little sick of everyone bashing the prequel trilogy. They are utterly mind-blowingly fantastic films. And no, I'm not joking.

 Not joking ? Then why am I laughing ?

Best you stay over on TFN where you can all have a group hug about it.

Ryan McAvoy said:

Oh yeah you're right there's hardly any CGI in the PT and it all looks stunning. I've just removed my eyes and given them a proper telling off for lying to me all these years.

Knowing this fact really makes me appreciate how agile pensioners like Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid really where. They must have done some Yoga training because their bodies twisted and bent into shapes that you'd think were impossible. Neato! (Also the puppeteering on general Grievous was sick!).

As if to prove your point here's the second OT battle from ESB being shot...

and here's the second PT battle from AOTC being shot...

 Did you not see that thread I linked? http://boards.theforce.net/threads/practical-effects-in-the-prequels-sets-pictures-models-etc.50017310/ It proves that there are a lot of models in the PT. I would suspect that that battle in AOTC actually did use some models, you can see a model AT-TE in the thread I linked, not to mention models of Mustafar, Naboo Royal Cruiser, a HUGE miniature city of Mois Eisley,the streets of Coruscant, that thing in the second picture down, the huge Geonosian arena, the corridors of the Jedi temple, the huts of the tusken raiders, the podracers, naboo, Kamino, the place where Anakin and Obi-Wan fought Count Dooku, the Trade Federation interior, life-size podracer, some different costumes for the aliens on Mustafar, the Podracer stadium, the AAT, Feluccia, the hanger in the Invisible Hand, the Jedi Temple, a life-size Naboo Starfighter, C-3PO half-built, what seems to be half of a life-size podracer for Sebulba, several places where Anakin and Obi-Wan fought eachother, and this is probably only a fraction of the stuff they actually used.

Here's a reply quote from one of your mates in a post that you duplicated here.

Those people are garbage. Garbage. They're the type of people who live worthless lives talking **** behind a screen. I'd be frustrated too if I was a 30/40 year-old nobody who didn't have anything better to do than vent on internet boards. You're not clinging to nostalgia. It's the other way around. They're (the OT-ers) the ones who cling on to their precious OT films as some sort of sacred films.

Do you really expect any support from us ?

OBI-WAN37 said:

I'm a little sick of everyone bashing the prequel trilogy. They are utterly mind-blowingly fantastic films. And no, I'm not joking.

They're a fantastic trilogy and tragedy (I'm not misspelling any words).

The way Palpatine manipulates anakin is excellent, and there's so many awesome action sequences. You get to see the Jedi in their prime,

and for those who say the prequels had too much CGI, check this thread, which proves there isn't really too much CGI in the prequel trilogy, except for maybe the clones: http://boards.theforce.net/threads/p...-etc.50017310/.

And yes, the story was great, because anakin turning to the dark side is truly moving, and the way Palpatine manipulates anakin into doing so is so cool, especially in episode III when you're just watching and thinking, "no, don't turn to the dark side", but then he does and the effect, regardless of how obvious it is that it was going to happen, is amazing.

And the climatic duel on mustafar! Fantastic. They even incorporated a real erupting volcano into that scene!

As awesome as the original trilogy is, I think the prequels surpass episodes IV-VI.

I look forward to episode VII not so much because I want the film to live up to the originals, as fantastic as they are, but because I want it to live up to the prequels.

What do you think about prequel bashing?

OBI-WAN37 deserves no less.

Ryan McAvoy said:

I may of used the analogy before but saying there are more models in the PT is like saying there is more sugar in a lemon than in a strawberry.

 How do you know this? In Episode III "the film required 910 artists and 70,441 man-hours to create 49 seconds of footage for the Mustafar duel alone" (from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_Episode_III:_Revenge_of_the_Sith#Special_effects). And someone over at TFN was pretty confident when he stated that Episode III had more model makers than any film ever made.