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Anjohan said:

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Anjohan said:

Do they not deserve the chance to walk down memory lane with stories and references from their favorite moments?

They do, and they can do it by watching the prequels.

Valid point. But couldn’t the same be said for the OT then?

If Disney made the new trilogy in PT era and fans criticized; would the answer “you can watch the OT” be a satisfactory one for you as a lifelong fan?

But we can’t watch the OT. There’s the rub.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

LuckyGungan2001 said:

One thing (out of many) that makes me prefer the old EU to the canon universe is that there was no bias towards the prequels.

Your old EU must be different from mine.

Sorry, what I meant was no bias against the prequels, though I can easily see why a lot of people wouldn’t like that.

Not enough people read the EU.

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I quite like how the prequels were included in Rogue One. There were a few subtle callbacks like the Turbo Tank and Coruscant that didn’t really affect the story, but they were nice to see if you wanted a more cohesive/connected universe, and they were easily ignorable if you hate the prequels. Other callbacks to the era like Saw Gerrera, Bail Organa and so on all made sense within the context of the story.

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Alderaan said:

Sign up on an OOT forum. Make your avatar a prequel character. Start threads that advocate for prequels.

Story checks out.

Other people do have prequel avatars around here.

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Jeebus said:

I quite like how the prequels were included in Rogue One. There were a few subtle callbacks like the Turbo Tank and Coruscant that didn’t really affect the story, but they were nice to see if you wanted a more cohesive/connected universe, and they were easily ignorable if you hate the prequels. Other callbacks to the era like Saw Gerrera, Bail Organa and so on all made sense within the context of the story.

I loved how they made the bigget PT era character (Saw) an insane mess who had a crappy CGI pet. Very meta.

1999-2012 were so PT heavy that the pendulum has swung the other way. Had Lucas not sold the company, the PT bias would still exist.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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lovelikewinter said:

Jeebus said:

I quite like how the prequels were included in Rogue One. There were a few subtle callbacks like the Turbo Tank and Coruscant that didn’t really affect the story, but they were nice to see if you wanted a more cohesive/connected universe, and they were easily ignorable if you hate the prequels. Other callbacks to the era like Saw Gerrera, Bail Organa and so on all made sense within the context of the story.

I loved how they made the bigget PT era character (Saw) an insane mess who had a crappy CGI pet. Very meta.

Hahahah

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I feel they’re doing a decent job of tying things together (with the odd Bail Organa reference etc) but going more for the tone of the OT.

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Lord Haseo said:

They only should be mentioned when people bring up the fall of Anakin, rise of The Empire, The Clone Wars etc.

Those are OT concepts anyway.

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Man, will I suddenly become nostalgic for the PT era once I hit my 40’s?

Probably won’t happen since I’m in that middle generation born too late (1985) to have seen even RotJ in the theater but still early enough to very clearly remember a time before even the '95 faces/thx vhs.

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The PT is included a fair amount already in new material, and in pre-Disney material, the era got 2 animated series, one lasting 6 seasons IIRC. They’ve got plenty of representation in the canon.

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I would prefer the prequels be referenced occasionally, though not in a way that would dredge up any of their continuity issues with the original trilogy. For example, no references to Qui-Gon as Obi-Wan’s master, since in the OT it was Yoda who trained him. Featuring Bail Organa as played by Jimmy Smitts is perfectly fine, being a character referenced in the OT and nothing about his prequel portrayal strains this. I’d rather not reference Threepio being built by Anakin.
Y’know, reference and include the prequels to whatever degree is appropriate, but I’d avoid anything that wouldn’t read well if one hadn’t seen them.

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Hal 9000 said:

I would prefer the prequels be referenced occasionally, though not in a way that would dredge up any of their continuity issues with the original trilogy. For example, no references to Qui-Gon as Obi-Wan’s master, since in the OT it was Yoda who trained him. Featuring Bail Organa as played by Jimmy Smitts is perfectly fine, being a character referenced in the OT and nothing about his prequel portrayal strains this. I’d rather not reference Threepio being built by Anakin.
Y’know, reference and include the prequels to whatever degree is appropriate, but I’d avoid anything that wouldn’t read well if one hadn’t seen them.

+1

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Hal 9000 said:

I would prefer the prequels be referenced occasionally, though not in a way that would dredge up any of their continuity issues with the original trilogy. For example, no references to Qui-Gon as Obi-Wan’s master, since in the OT it was Yoda who trained him. Featuring Bail Organa as played by Jimmy Smitts is perfectly fine, being a character referenced in the OT and nothing about his prequel portrayal strains this. I’d rather not reference Threepio being built by Anakin.
Y’know, reference and include the prequels to whatever degree is appropriate, but I’d avoid anything that wouldn’t read well if one hadn’t seen them.

+1.
This is my thoughts, exactly.

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With the division the PT have caused, my take is to accept the stories, but omit the details. Include the visual, but ignore the dialog. Basically the events happened, those places and species exist, but they shouldn’t refer back to them in any great detail. Coruscant, Naboo, Utapau, could be mentioned or revisitied. The Trade Federation could be a contender again in the ST. Some of those species and places were destroyed by the Empire so you probably want to omit those. Definitely don’t include any Gungans unless they are in the background of a crowd. One thing I was very disappointed in was that The Force Awakens featured so few of the OT or PT aliens. It was great to see new owes, but some of the old ones (other than Nien Nunb and Admiral Ackbar) would have been nice. It was nice to see a different group of Mon Calamari and Ponda Baba in Rogue One. Like in The Last Jedi, if Luke tells Rey what happened during the fall of Anakin and the Republic, it should follow the story of the PT. When you summarize the stories they are pretty good. My kids have the Little Golden Book editions and in those the PT are greatly improved by glossing over things. So at that level, they cease to have the objectionable content (except for Jar Jar - he should never be mentioned again).

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Wonder which future filmmaker will have the cojones to put a Gungan in a future movie…

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Hal 9000 said:

I would prefer the prequels be referenced occasionally, though not in a way that would dredge up any of their continuity issues with the original trilogy. For example, no references to Qui-Gon as Obi-Wan’s master, since in the OT it was Yoda who trained him. Featuring Bail Organa as played by Jimmy Smitts is perfectly fine, being a character referenced in the OT and nothing about his prequel portrayal strains this. I’d rather not reference Threepio being built by Anakin.
Y’know, reference and include the prequels to whatever degree is appropriate, but I’d avoid anything that wouldn’t read well if one hadn’t seen them.

Yeah pretty much this.

I think a lot of people get a little irrational on this site about PT stuff, like if it was in the PT they hate it no matter what. It’d definitely be cool to see elements from the PT show up again because there actually were some cool design elements in those films. And in terms of the timeline they established, yeah, if it contradicts with the OT don’t bother, but otherwise why not consider that the actual timeline? Just because some Joe Blow came up with a different backstory when he was a kid? Let’s not be silly.

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Mr Bones from Aftermath is just the right amount of prequel. Cool design adapted into insane murderbot.

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yotsuya said:

With the division the PT have caused, my take is to accept the stories, but omit the details. Include the visual, but ignore the dialog. Basically the events happened, those places and species exist, but they shouldn’t refer back to them in any great detail. Coruscant, Naboo, Utapau, could be mentioned or revisitied. The Trade Federation could be a contender again in the ST. Some of those species and places were destroyed by the Empire so you probably want to omit those. Definitely don’t include any Gungans unless they are in the background of a crowd. One thing I was very disappointed in was that The Force Awakens featured so few of the OT or PT aliens. It was great to see new owes, but some of the old ones (other than Nien Nunb and Admiral Ackbar) would have been nice. It was nice to see a different group of Mon Calamari and Ponda Baba in Rogue One. Like in The Last Jedi, if Luke tells Rey what happened during the fall of Anakin and the Republic, it should follow the story of the PT. When you summarize the stories they are pretty good. My kids have the Little Golden Book editions and in those the PT are greatly improved by glossing over things. So at that level, they cease to have the objectionable content (except for Jar Jar - he should never be mentioned again).

This is basically how I feel.

My biggest issues with the PT were George’s scripting and directorial choices. The story itself wasn’t the problem, and even in the best of all alternate timelines George probably would’ve written the story outline himself just as he did for the OT. The prequels still work as “the history of the last days of the Old Republic,” and to the ST characters that’s literally what it is, history.

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doubleofive said:

Mr Bones from Aftermath is just the right amount of prequel. Cool design adapted into insane murderbot.

Sounds familiar…

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SilverWook said:

doubleofive said:

Mr Bones from Aftermath is just the right amount of prequel. Cool design adapted into insane murderbot.

Sounds familiar…

Sounds familiar…

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yotsuya said:

With the division the PT have caused, my take is to accept the stories, but omit the details. Include the visual, but ignore the dialog. Basically the events happened, those places and species exist, but they shouldn’t refer back to them in any great detail. Coruscant, Naboo, Utapau, could be mentioned or revisitied. The Trade Federation could be a contender again in the ST. Some of those species and places were destroyed by the Empire so you probably want to omit those. Definitely don’t include any Gungans unless they are in the background of a crowd. One thing I was very disappointed in was that The Force Awakens featured so few of the OT or PT aliens. It was great to see new owes, but some of the old ones (other than Nien Nunb and Admiral Ackbar) would have been nice. It was nice to see a different group of Mon Calamari and Ponda Baba in Rogue One. Like in The Last Jedi, if Luke tells Rey what happened during the fall of Anakin and the Republic, it should follow the story of the PT. When you summarize the stories they are pretty good. My kids have the Little Golden Book editions and in those the PT are greatly improved by glossing over things. So at that level, they cease to have the objectionable content (except for Jar Jar - he should never be mentioned again).

+1 this also.

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GlastoEls said:

Wonder which future filmmaker will have the cojones to put a Gungan in a future movie…

Colin Trevorrow is the man for the job!

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A Gungan in the background isn’t a deal breaker. Aside from Jar Jar having been a senator, Gungans don’t seem to be the type to venture off their homeworld though.

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