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I feel like Space Whales worked for me as well as they did because their intro seemed like such a useless episode, that no one would ever let you forget about as an example of the show’s low points. I would have forgotten about the episode had it not been the poster boy for the “too much filler” criticism. To see them play a pivotal part of the story’s conclusion was a lot of fun.

As for the Ezra and Ahsoka being around during the OT; I’m fine with it because Ezra and Thrawn are pretty much M.I.A in a part of the universe literally called the Unknown Regions. They might as well not exist because they’ve essentially been taken out of the known galaxy, uncharted space, and presumably without a way to get back.

Ahsoka is a little harder to get around, but they’ll probably explain it.

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We aren’t even positive Ahsoka got spit out of that weird Force tesseract thing on Malachor; we just saw some similar architecture through the window. If that is where she ended up, she’d be on a dead planet with no immediate way off. If not, she could be just as far-flung as Ezra and Thrawn.

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I thought the whales were dumb when they were introduced. But now that it’s been established that this connection with animals is Ezra’s force m-o, I think it works. For instance, I never minded the wolves’ role in this season. Though the light speed whale travel is still a bit too much.

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NFBisms said:

I feel like Space Whales worked for me as well as they did because their intro seemed like such a useless episode, that no one would ever let you forget about as an example of the show’s low points. I would have forgotten about the episode had it not been the poster boy for the “too much filler” criticism. To see them play a pivotal part of the story’s conclusion was a lot of fun.

My thoughts on the matter exactly.

As for the Ezra and Ahsoka being around during the OT; I’m fine with it because Ezra and Thrawn are pretty much M.I.A in a part of the universe literally called the Unknown Regions. They might as well not exist because they’ve essentially been taken out of the known galaxy, uncharted space, and presumably without a way to get back.

I think the idea that they’re in the Unknown Regions is just speculation at this point, no?

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We aren’t even positive Ahsoka got spit out of that weird Force tesseract thing on Malachor; we just saw some similar architecture through the window. If that is where she ended up, she’d be on a dead planet with no immediate way off. If not, she could be just as far-flung as Ezra and Thrawn.

I suppose we also don’t know when she was spit out.

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You guys are silly. Season 2 ended with a shot of her entering the doorway we see here standing in front of at the end of A World Between Worlds. Not only that, she went back through the same portal she was pulled out of which was set to Malachor at the time of season 2.

That was the answer to the mystery of her fate at the end of Season 2. She was pulled out of time but then returned shortly after.

What she did in the time since then is the actual mystery. I would guess studying on Malachor and elsewhere.

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Ah, I’ve only watched each episode once as it aired, so I guess I don’t remember the season 2 finale well enough to recognize that as being definitely Malachor. I’ll probably do a rewatch in the coming months, especially if the next show is as long a way off as I fear it probably is.

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Tobar said:

You guys are silly. Season 2 ended with a shot of her entering the doorway we see here standing in front of at the end of A World Between Worlds. Not only that, she went back through the same portal she was pulled out of which was set to Malachor at the time of season 2.

That was the answer to the mystery of her fate at the end of Season 2. She was pulled out of time but then returned shortly after.

What she did in the time since then is the actual mystery. I would guess studying on Malachor and elsewhere.

I know that, just saying they could futz with the timeline if they wanted to.

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I bet there’ll probably be another book for her that covers that time period.

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As far as the World Between Worlds, in my head, this is what the Jedi connect to when they ‘see the future’. They aren’t really clairvoyant but are like the Emperor was, opening a portal to this World Between Worlds with their minds in which they can see or hear everything the way Ezra was able to.

That’s just in my own head but it makes some sense. As time went on, the Jedi lost the story of WHY they could see a version of the future, they just knew they could.

The Jedi are all but extinct.......
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OK, I finally saw the remaining episodes and here’s my opinion of the series as a whole:

I think Star Wars Rebels was an overall OK series, but also very frustrating on a personal level to me because it was too risk averse many times, so much so that I think it’s a miracle Kanan died at all, with Filoni himself stating in a recent interview that Yoda telling Luke that he was the last of the Jedi was not the reason for his death, as if implying that if he wanted to he would’ve had Kanan be alive throughout the timeline of the OT. The one plot point that sticks out for me the most was Ezra’s dark tendencies in the first two seasons, which after the season 2 finale led me to believe that Ezra would be more enthralled in the dark side as season 3 progressed leading to some sort confrontation with Kanan but no, that plotline was solved instantly at the start of season 3, what a cop out. Another thing I disliked about season 3 was the Bendu, a character who claims to be in the middle of the light and dark side of the Force, yet only helps the good guys and in his one interaction with a bad guy he gives Thrawn yet another speech about how the bad guys will lose, in this case predicting Thrawn’s defeat, so much for neutrality.
Finally there’s Ahsoka, AKA the most shoehorned character in Star Wars history, being ever present in Filoni’s stories and still being alive even when it defies all logic and reason. Seriously, I know Filoni loves her and she’s his pet character but enough is enough, Ahsoka needs to die. Are you telling me that after escaping Malachor she just sat back and let the Rebellion take care of the Empire when a skilled and knowledgeable Force wielder such as herself would have come in handy say, helping Luke’s training to further hone his skills and such? COME ON!
The finale was alright save for the revelation that Hera gave birth to Kanan’s son. WTF? Kanan and Hera spent the whole series flirting but I got the impression that their onscreen kiss was their first and only moment of intimacy. Did Kanan use the Force from the afterlife to impregnate Hera? Cause that’s the only explanation that makes any sense, otherwise it seems they were having quickies throughout their many missions.

Honestly at this point I’m kinda done with Filoni and his risk-averse kid-friendly stories where everything always turns out for the better to such a degree it’s a wonder the bad guys are successful at all.

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fmalover said:

OK, I finally saw the remaining episodes and here’s my opinion of the series as a whole:

I think Star Wars Rebels was an overall OK series, but also very frustrating on a personal level to me because it was too risk averse many times, so much so that I think it’s a miracle Kanan died at all, with Filoni himself stating in a recent interview that Yoda telling Luke that he was the last of the Jedi was not the reason for his death, as if implying that if he wanted to he would’ve had Kanan be alive throughout the timeline of the OT. The one plot point that sticks out for me the most was Ezra’s dark tendencies in the first two seasons, which after the season 2 finale led me to believe that Ezra would be more enthralled in the dark side as season 3 progressed leading to some sort confrontation with Kanan but no, that plotline was solved instantly at the start of season 3, what a cop out. Another thing I disliked about season 3 was the Bendu, a character who claims to be in the middle of the light and dark side of the Force, yet only helps the good guys and in his one interaction with a bad guy he gives Thrawn yet another speech about how the bad guys will lose, in this case predicting Thrawn’s defeat, so much for neutrality.
Finally there’s Ahsoka, AKA the most shoehorned character in Star Wars history, being ever present in Filoni’s stories and still being alive even when it defies all logic and reason. Seriously, I know Filoni loves her and she’s his pet character but enough is enough, Ahsoka needs to die. Are you telling me that after escaping Malachor she just sat back and let the Rebellion take care of the Empire when a skilled and knowledgeable Force wielder such as herself would have come in handy say, helping Luke’s training to further hone his skills and such? COME ON!
The finale was alright save for the revelation that Hera gave birth to Kanan’s son. WTF? Kanan and Hera spent the whole series flirting but I got the impression that their onscreen kiss was their first and only moment of intimacy. Did Kanan use the Force from the afterlife to impregnate Hera? Cause that’s the only explanation that makes any sense, otherwise it seems they were having quickies throughout their many missions.

Honestly at this point I’m kinda done with Filoni and his risk-averse kid-friendly stories where everything always turns out for the better to such a degree it’s a wonder the bad guys are successful at all.

I agree with this. I however did love some parts of the series. When they brought Vader into it they made him more of a badass when so much of the post PT books and stuff made him basically a wimp. Obi-Wan vs Maul was another high point: the duel was perfect. Brining Thrawn into it was great. I enjoyed how he played Phoenix Squad as chumps until Ezra HAD to win just because.

It seems like people are really embracing the new characters. In fact, the big question people ask me now about Star Wars is, “Are Finn and Poe gay lovers?” And really how the f*ck would I know? My second husband left me for a man, so my gaydar isn’t exactly what you’d call Death Star level quality. ----Carrie Fisher

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lovelikewinter said:

fmalover said:

OK, I finally saw the remaining episodes and here’s my opinion of the series as a whole:

I think Star Wars Rebels was an overall OK series, but also very frustrating on a personal level to me because it was too risk averse many times, so much so that I think it’s a miracle Kanan died at all, with Filoni himself stating in a recent interview that Yoda telling Luke that he was the last of the Jedi was not the reason for his death, as if implying that if he wanted to he would’ve had Kanan be alive throughout the timeline of the OT. The one plot point that sticks out for me the most was Ezra’s dark tendencies in the first two seasons, which after the season 2 finale led me to believe that Ezra would be more enthralled in the dark side as season 3 progressed leading to some sort confrontation with Kanan but no, that plotline was solved instantly at the start of season 3, what a cop out. Another thing I disliked about season 3 was the Bendu, a character who claims to be in the middle of the light and dark side of the Force, yet only helps the good guys and in his one interaction with a bad guy he gives Thrawn yet another speech about how the bad guys will lose, in this case predicting Thrawn’s defeat, so much for neutrality.
Finally there’s Ahsoka, AKA the most shoehorned character in Star Wars history, being ever present in Filoni’s stories and still being alive even when it defies all logic and reason. Seriously, I know Filoni loves her and she’s his pet character but enough is enough, Ahsoka needs to die. Are you telling me that after escaping Malachor she just sat back and let the Rebellion take care of the Empire when a skilled and knowledgeable Force wielder such as herself would have come in handy say, helping Luke’s training to further hone his skills and such? COME ON!
The finale was alright save for the revelation that Hera gave birth to Kanan’s son. WTF? Kanan and Hera spent the whole series flirting but I got the impression that their onscreen kiss was their first and only moment of intimacy. Did Kanan use the Force from the afterlife to impregnate Hera? Cause that’s the only explanation that makes any sense, otherwise it seems they were having quickies throughout their many missions.

Honestly at this point I’m kinda done with Filoni and his risk-averse kid-friendly stories where everything always turns out for the better to such a degree it’s a wonder the bad guys are successful at all.

I agree with this. I however did love some parts of the series. When they brought Vader into it they made him more of a badass when so much of the post PT books and stuff made him basically a wimp. Obi-Wan vs Maul was another high point: the duel was perfect. Brining Thrawn into it was great. I enjoyed how he played Phoenix Squad as chumps until Ezra HAD to win just because.

While I would have preferred the series to end with Ezra dying at the end I knew Filoni simply wouldn’t have the balls to do so given how safe the series played it throughout its entire run, but I’m OK with him being MIA. Thrawn on the other hand was wasted being in a kid’s show like Rebels since IMO he lends himself more to serious and mature storylines, him being outsmarted by a whiny teenager in a kid’s show felt wrong and out of place with his character, and while I know Timothy Zahn will never say anything publicly I’m pretty sure he’s deismayed at how they handled his creation in Rebels. As for Maul I expected him to be a more philosophical character whilst still adhering to his dark side teachings willing to help the Rebels out of pure hatred of the Emperor until his fragile alliance with them is ended due to his ruthless methods, kinda like a Force wielding Saw Gerrera, whilst continuing to manipulate Ezra into embracing the darkness within him, instead he was reduced to a Satruday morning cartoon villain still obsessed with picking a fight with Kenobi even though Kenobi himself clearly doesn’t give a fuck about Maul.

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So in the last few weeks I’ve been watching the Clone Wars series somewhat out of order. I’ve pretty much just watched the “essential” episodes (Mortis, Maul, Ashoka’s trial, etc.), and I’m currently just watching the rest in whatever order I feel like at the moment.

Is it possible to do this with Rebels?

I get the impression that this show isn’t quite as loose with it’s structure as Clone Wars was. I’ve read a few lists about the “essential” and “best of” episodes, but if I were to watch just these, would I loose too much of the plot for it to make any sense?

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There’s a lot of monster-of-the-week stuff in the first two seasons. I would watch it through to the end from the last two episodes of S2 onward, but before that there’s plenty that’s skippable.

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ZkinandBonez said:

So in the last few weeks I’ve been watching the Clone Wars series somewhat out of order. I’ve pretty much just watched the “essential” episodes (Mortis, Maul, Ashoka’s trial, etc.), and I’m currently just watching the rest in whatever order I feel like at the moment.

Is it possible to do this with Rebels?

No. Rebels is structured linearly and as such for a first time viewing should be watched in order and in full.

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There’s a lot of monster-of-the-week stuff in the first two seasons. I would watch it through to the end from the last two episodes of S2 onward, but before that there’s plenty that’s skippable.

Ok, thanks. I was mostly curious about Thrawn and some of the weird stuff from the last two seasons that I’ve heard a lot about lately, so that suits me pretty well.

Should I just skip all of the Inquisitor stuff from the early seasons then, or would you recommend I watch some of the “essential episodes” from seasons one and two? Or would that just be weird? (What season is Maul introduced?)

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Maul is introduced towards the end of S2. There’s definitely stuff before that you need, but it’s pretty episodic so it’s easy to pick and choose. I’d recommend trying to find a list of essential episodes somewhere. Some of the inquisitor stuff shouldn’t be skipped, but you might not need all of it.

It should be noted that I haven’t rewatched the show since it originally aired, so I could be off base here. This is just my years-later recollection of it.

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Tobar said:

Man, I can’t tell if that gif should make me feel sad, or make me impressed by Frank Oz’s puppetering skills. (I never realized how many subtleties there’s in that shot before.)


Anyway, I ended up just watching the whole first season anyway. I can see how a few episodes could have been skipped, but it probably would have felt kinda weird (even watching Clone Wars out of order got a little awkward at times).

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I think it’s a miracle Kanan died at all, with Filoni himself stating in a recent interview that Yoda telling Luke that he was the last of the Jedi was not the reason for his death, as if implying that if he wanted to he would’ve had Kanan be alive throughout the timeline of the OT.

Wouldn’t that implying just the opposite? If said that he didn’t want to kill him off just because of Yoda’s line, that implies he wanted to kill him off regardless for other reasons.

Kanan and Hera spent the whole series flirting but I got the impression that their onscreen kiss was their first and only moment of intimacy.

I had the impression already a couple from the get-go, but then in Jedi Night suddenly they’ve actually never been a couple? It felt contrived, and ruined the most interesting relationship the show had.

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I really wish I could hear them one after the other to better appreciate the comparison

Green is not a creative color

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They’ve redubbed the Emperor with Ian McDiarmid for The Siege of Lothal

I have so many questions.

I figure it’s the same situation as to how they got Frank Oz for Rebels. They asked for some additional lines while they were already in the studio for other things.

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I really wish I could hear them one after the other to better appreciate the comparison

Here’s the original performance by Sam Witwer.

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