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STAR WARS: EPISODE VII: The Shadow Revealed (FAN EDIT BY THAT_OT_RULER) NEW PREVIEW CLIPS

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I posted my thoughts for a fan edit months ago, but with the Blu-ray just coming out, I’d like to share my ideas and what I will definitely be doing in the fan edit.

Working title: The Shadow Revealed
Fan Edit by That_OT_Ruler

*MAJOR CHANGES
-Color correction (Yellow-ish color tint, examples below)
—Soundtrack is completely removed and replaced with music from the previous films (Hopefully)
-Some scenes will have a complete sound overhaul (New sound mix with TIE fighters effects, etc.)
-Removal of the Rathtar squid sequence (The whole thing is gone)
-Removal of almost all fanservice and callback moments, except for shit like Rey’s helmet and the AT-AT
-Finn is not nearly as cringeworthy around Rey (Removal of stupid lines like, “Well this is what we look like.”) He’s more serious, but he has heart.
-Put back in shots that were cut from the trailers
-Finn sucks even more with using a lightsaber

*MINOR CHANGES
-20th Century Fox logo and theme is implemented
-Custom title crawl
-Removal of Poe’s line, “You talk first, I talk first?”
-Removal of Poe’s line, “You need a pilot?”
-Removal of Finn’s yelling, “DID YOU SEE THAT?!”
-Removal of extra explosion after TIE fighter sinks into sand
-Cut down Rey’s fight in marketplace (This ties into the next edit)
-No gag of Finn drinking water next to giant beast
-Other miscellaneous dialogue removal
-Remove entire pointless sequence of Finn talking to BB-8 and asking him to tell Rey the location of the Resistance base
-Remove line, “You got a boyfriend? Cute boyfriend?”
-Remove Rey telling Han that he did the kessel run in 14 parsecs
-Removal of entire Rathtar squid scene. It just cuts from Han talking to Lord Snoke
-Cut out Chewie being injured to keep continuity with previous cut
-Other miscellaneous dialogue cuts during scene with examining map
-Remove the reactions of the people watching the planets getting blown up
-Remove Maz’s line, “A good question, for another time.”
-Trim down and cut out shots and parts of the raid on Maz’s castle
-Re-insert X-Wings hovering over water shot from the trailer
-Cut down Kylo chasing Rey in the forest
-Cut out scene of Kylo thrashing around saber in rage
-Cut out more jokes with Finn
-Reinsert Kylo walking in forest shot from Teaser 1
-Finn’s fight with Kylo is much shorter, and downright pathetic. Finn lasts less than 40 seconds.
-Rey and Kylo’s fight sequence is put together (It doesn’t cut away to X-wings)
-Movie fades out on Luke’s face, not the helicopter shot

POSSIBLE MAJOR EDIT: The Republic planets are destroyed at the end of the movie, not the middle. This would removed Hux’s speech, but make the finale much more emotional.

Those are basically all the edits I plan to fully implement. No deleted scenes will be put into the edit, as the Timecode problem makes it impossible.

Now, this is where I NEED YOUR HELP. I may need need someone to help me remove the music from the 7.1 DTS audio mix, leaving only the vocals and sound effects. It doesn’t have to be perfect, but I REALLY NEED HELP WITH THIS to make this edit work.

I also need help with creating a new title crawl, something similar to what HAL9000 did for his prequel edits.

YOU WILL BE CREDITED IN THE FILM FOR HELPING OUT.

I would like to thank you for reading, and now, here are some test clips of what I’m putting together.

THESE ARE VERY VERY VERY EARLY TEST CLIPS. THE AUDIO IS NOWHERE NEAR FINISHED.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x42wipg
X-Wing Assault on Starkiller Base - The Phantom Menace Music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x42x58s
Battle at Maz’s Castle - The Empire Strikes Back Music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4349qm
Attacking the Oscillator - Return of the Jedi Music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4349w2
Han and Kylo’s confrontation - Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi Music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48pbmm_final-assault-on-starkiller-music-only_fun
Final Assault on Starkiller Base - The Phanton Menace Music (MUSIC ONLY)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48pjme_first-5-minutes-of-tfa-edit_fun
First 5 Minutes of the edit - Mixed Music (See if you can spot which tracks I used)

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48s3qb_the-map-to-luke-skywalker-preview-clip-early-audio_fun
Looking at the map - Cut out Chewbacca being injured - No sound effects or music

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48s5xb
Rey leaves to find Luke Skywalker - Music from The Phantom Menace - Early audio mixing - No effects at the end

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x48s7gc
Final scene - Rey hands Luke the lightsaber - Revenge of the Sith Music - Preview Clip

Here is a taste of my color correction. NOT FINISHED.

All suggestions and comments are appreciated. Thank you, and enjoy!

~The original trilogy is my life… kind of~

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Looks really good! The colours are much better and your replaced music for Han’s death is really good! I just think that the music should end a little later, maybe when it cuts to Rey and Finn rather than to the lightsaber, or maybe just remove the shot of Rey and Finn and just have the song carry on from one to another. I think you have the perfect idea for the scene though.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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That_OT_Ruler said:
POSSIBLE MAJOR EDIT: The Republic planets are destroyed at the end of the movie, not the middle. This would removed Hux’s speech, but make the finale much more emotional.

This would be awesome, I think that you could work in Hux’s speech as well, it would just have to be spaced out from the other scenes that contain him.

Could you also make the reveal of Kylo Ren being Han’s son a reveal? I think it would give the Han/Kylo scene more emotion.

I think I can help you with music removal once I get the blu-ray, I’ll probably have it around the end of this month so stay tuned 😄

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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That_OT_Ruler said:
-Finn sucks even more with using a lightsaber

The wording makes the edit easier to swallow lol

-Cut out Chewie being injured to keep continuity with previous cut

and what of Chewie wearing the thing around his arm in the scene where Han offers Rey a job?

-Cut down Kylo chasing Rey in the forest

Can you elaborate on this one cause I think the scene is perfect the way it is.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4349w2
Han and Kylo’s confrontation - Revenge of the Sith and Return of the Jedi Music

The music from the Immolation Scene works surprisingly well. Perfect actually but the music from ROTJ doesn’t blend in well.

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Could you also make the reveal of Kylo Ren being Han’s son a reveal? I think it would give the Han/Kylo scene more emotion.

How could a twist that people saw coming way before the film came out add emotion? I can’t even wrap my mind around that one.

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Lord Haseo said:

Smithers said:
Could you also make the reveal of Kylo Ren being Han’s son a reveal? I think it would give the Han/Kylo scene more emotion.

How could a twist that people saw coming way before the film came out add emotion? I can’t even wrap my mind around that one.

The music ending later would make the death less predictable, thus invoking a surprise, thus invoking emotion

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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Smithers said:
The music ending later would make the death less predictable, thus invoking a surprise, thus invoking emotion

I didn’t think you were talking about the music in this post:

Could you also make the reveal of Kylo Ren being Han’s son a reveal? I think it would give the Han/Kylo scene more emotion.

my apologies

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Lord Haseo said:

Smithers said:
The music ending later would make the death less predictable, thus invoking a surprise, thus invoking emotion

I didn’t think you were talking about the music in this post:

Could you also make the reveal of Kylo Ren being Han’s son a reveal? I think it would give the Han/Kylo scene more emotion.

my apologies

Oh oops, I thought you were referring to my earlier post, but the same applies to the reveal that Kylo is Han’s son

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thus invoking a surprise, thus invoking emotion

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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A surprise to who? Someone who has never seen the film and doesn’t know that Adam Driver is playing Kylo Ren?

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Holy Shitttttt!!! So pumped for your edit! Even though I probably do enjoy some of the comedic moments more than you did that’s fine. Everything so far has been astounding. I like the Han scene so far a lot! The immolation music works wonders and I think you end it on the perfect point. Because I did like the amount of tension built when those last shots before he ignited his saber are silent. Now I do agree though with Haseo that the Return of the Jedi piece doesn’t work despite how good it is as a composition. I would maybe try something from ROTS like Order 66 which is pretty similar music. And cool color correction!

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I think I know a way to keep the Hux speech.

Instead of Hux witnessing the first firing of the weapon it is when it begins to suck the star. When he says “Today is the day…blah blah gets destroyed” it would still work because it’s just later in that same day the republic gets destroyed. You would remove him saying “Fire” and replace the shots of it actually shooting with some still epic shots of it sucking up a star shown later in the film. You would then cut all dialogue mentioning destruction of Hosnian system. Then put all shots of it firing after Hans death. This idea is from this amazing article. I suggest reading it all the way through and modeling it after this way so that you could keep Hux’s speech and move the destruction.

https://humaniterations.net/2016/03/26/how-to-fix-the-force-awakens/

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I honestly don’t know why you want to make Finn suck harder (hehe) with a lightsaber. What’s the point of him even having it if he can’t do anything with it? I sort of understand if you want to trim his fight with Kylo so it’s done immediately and you’re like oh shit, but if all you’ve seen of Finn with the lightsaber beforehand is him getting his ass handed to him by another stormtrooper, his defeat by Kylo is not surprising and doesn’t really say much for Kylo.

Note on color correction:

  • Be careful with the orange shift, the snow in particular is looking a little weird.
  • Since teal is such and integral color to the First Order interiors (and can’t be completely gotten rid of by small tweaks), by adding an orange tint you’ve essentially given those scenes (Rey in the base, Han and Kylo) a teal and orange grade. Looks cool, don’t know if that’s what you’re going for though.

Moving Hux’s speech and the Hosnian destruction is an interesting and actually pretty cool idea, but it kind of messes up the attack on the base. When do we learn that the base is a system killing weapon? Do we just show up at the Resistance base and suddenly everyone’s talking about it? One of the problems with the Starkiller base is it shows up late in the second half as sort of an underdeveloped subplot. Moving the speech and the weapon’s first use would not really help matters.

Only solution I can figure is if Starkiller base is mentioned in the crawl (and also maybe somehow tied into Luke’s disappearance, like Kylo doesn’t just want to find Luke he wants to destroy him and the planet he’s on, maybe it’s powerful in the force or something?).

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Indeed. But don’t u think by doing the following cuts and changes it would work legitalemty. This is as detailed as I can be currently just off of memory of the movie:

-Make Hux’s speech stay at the same point in the story but instead it’s in prep for the base to start sucking a star. This helps explain star killer base and why the resistance starts taking about it in the base (more on that later)
-Replace firing shots with star sucking shots (musical transition)
-cut Kylo looking
-cut Hux saying fire
-move Han/Finn reactions on Takodana to First Order Arriving while cutting Finn saying “it was the first order, they did it”
-cut Poe saying “Finn knows about the weapon THAT DESTROYED THE HOSNIAN SYSTEM” or just cut Finns confrontation with Leia
-cut Snoke saying they will target rebel base and him ordering Hux to oversee preparations. You could start the scene after Hux had left or cut the scene entirely
-there is no star sucking scene before resistance briefing now since this is scene would now already have been paired with Hux’s speech earlier.
-cut reference to star killer targeting the resistance base during briefing.
-it’s now implied that it’s sucking up star in prep for an attack (Poe explains this star draining concept during briefing). If you cut them saying its next target is resistance base then 3PO’s line about how “without the republic fleet they’re doomed” (something along those lines) that line now can mean that if the republic is destroyed then their resistance and ultimately the Galaxy would be doomed.
-after Rey and Finn desperately shoot at Troopers after Han dies cut to star killer base firing and destroying the Hosnian system. Utilize Leias breakdown here now as a double whammie so that her one reaction shot can be used in response to both Hans death and Hosnian destruction. This would be the critical success moment of this plot change/restructure
-Then cut to Chewie blowing charges and let movie play out as normal.

There may be a couple more mentions of Hosnian destruction that would need to be cut. But keeping Hux’s speech and them all watching it freakin suck up a star would be good to introduce the bases purpose. Then once it destroys the republic you may need to cut happiness down from pilots to be consistent with the fact that the republic was recently destroyed.

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DominicCobb said:

Moving Hux’s speech and the Hosnian destruction is an interesting and actually pretty cool idea, but it kind of messes up the attack on the base. When do we learn that the base is a system killing weapon? Do we just show up at the Resistance base and suddenly everyone’s talking about it? One of the problems with the Starkiller base is it shows up late in the second half as sort of an underdeveloped subplot. Moving the speech and the weapon’s first use would not really help matters.

Keeping Hux’s speech where it is except in prep for the base to start sucking up a star would solve all of these concerns. It would establish the orders motive, how they use the base, establishes that it will be sucking a star until it’s single fire. And the reason the Resistancd is worried is because it’s sucking a freaking star (“massive disruptions in hyperspace”). By cutting certain snippets of dialogue in the base, the resistances concern with the base as a result of it beginning to suck a star feels like a logical continuation of the story.

Only solution I can figure is if Starkiller base is mentioned in the crawl

Another good idea that combined with the idea I had would make this plot restructure of moving the Hosnian destruction not a problem.

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darthrush said:

Indeed. But don’t u think by doing the following cuts and changes it would work legitalemty. This is as detailed as I can be currently just off of memory of the movie:

Well either way there’s still the issue of the randomness of the Starkiller showing up halfway through the film (and trying to buy it as a threat without seeing what it can do). The problem with not having the New Republic scenes is there’s a sizable plot hole created - why aren’t people evacuating? Why isn’t the Republic helping the Resistance?

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DominicCobb said:

darthrush said:

Indeed. But don’t u think by doing the following cuts and changes it would work legitalemty. This is as detailed as I can be currently just off of memory of the movie:

Well either way there’s still the issue of the randomness of the Starkiller showing up halfway through the film

Since this issue is already present with original sequence of events I would ignore this issue.

(and trying to buy it as a threat without seeing what it can do).

Hux’s speech about it is pretty convincing. His acting and utter intensity is felt and it directly is about the power of the base. The combined shots of a star being sucked and the one shot of the sky turning red and the trees burned provides a very majestic introduction to what it takes to power such a weapon and convinces us it has the ability to destroy a system.

The problem with not having the New Republic scenes is there’s a sizable plot hole created - why aren’t people evacuating? Why isn’t the Republic helping the Resistance?

If someone is a viewer, invested in the film and they question this possible plot hole you could saythat the reason the republic isn’t helping the resistance in this specific crisis is due to the fact that only the resistance would know at that point about the weapon and that theres not enough time for the republic to not only send help across the entire galaxy but to get Notified in time also.

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That_OT_Ruler said:
All suggestions and comments are appreciated. Thank you, and enjoy!

I don’t like the color correction. Yellow tint is not really beautiful. In a Johnnie To movie I guess it works but here I don’t feel it does.

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MalàStrana said:

That_OT_Ruler said:
All suggestions and comments are appreciated. Thank you, and enjoy!

I don’t like the color correction.

I don’t like color correction in general. With a few exceptions, I think the need for it is vastly overstated.

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I can understand making the films look like the OT but making the films look unnatural is a concept I can’t grasp.

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Lord Haseo said:

I can understand making the films look like the OT but making the films look unnatural is a concept I can’t grasp.

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I don’t like color correction in general. With a few exceptions, I think the need for it is vastly overstated.

I can understand wanting to keep the film to be realistic, rather than styalized. I’ll see what I can cook up. Maybe a light correction, but not anything too extreme. To be honest, I think I do have a bias towards the 2.5 Despecialized version (That is not correct), and the 2014 The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly color correction. Something about the yellow I like. Regardless, I’m going to put together something you’ll like.

~The original trilogy is my life… kind of~

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Sorry I haven’t been posting daily updates everyone. College is really a bitch. I am slowly working on making new preview clips and creating a new audio mix for the movie. It’s a slow, manual process, going through all the audio channels and picking out the sound effects. Thank you all for the support!

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That_OT_Ruler said:

College is really a bitch.

Perhaps you’ve heard this before, but it’s not really. You have more free time now than you will have afterwards, you just don’t realize it yet.

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TV’s Frink said:

That_OT_Ruler said:

College is really a bitch.

Perhaps you’ve heard this before, but it’s not really. You have more free time now than you will have afterwards, you just don’t realize it yet.

As a recent college grad, I second this.

Seriously, enjoy your time now. I was supposed to have my Episode I edit out by February. Well…here it is April and I’m wondering if I’ll make it by May haha. Life really comes at you head first.

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Sheepish said:

TV’s Frink said:

That_OT_Ruler said:

College is really a bitch.

Perhaps you’ve heard this before, but it’s not really. You have more free time now than you will have afterwards, you just don’t realize it yet.

As a recent college grad, I second this.

Unless you’ve already done so, just wait until you start a family.

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TV’s Frink said:

That_OT_Ruler said:

College is really a bitch.

Perhaps you’ve heard this before, but it’s not really. You have more free time now than you will have afterwards, you just don’t realize it yet.

I can’t say this with the utmost authority, but I think it depends. My life’s so crazy right now that I can’t wait until the semester’s over. Thing is though, when school’s out I immediately start working 9-5, but that’s liberating because my schedule is so much more hectic now.

Of course it’s not just classes that’s making me busy and I assume what makes one busy after college is not just work (obviously free time is scarce when you have children). It depends.