STAR WARS: EP VI -RETURN OF THE JEDI "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - ** PRODUCTION HAS NOW RESTARTED ** — Page 145

timdiggerm said:

O00ll00O said:

Darth Sadifous said:

Honestly, my number one ask is to replace that matte painting shot when Han is departing with the strike team and talking to Lando with the falcon in the background. It is the most obvious matte shot in the entire saga in my opinion. I am still shocked Lucas didn’t tinker with it during the special edition. Especially in HD it always stands out to me like a sore thumb to me.

It’s hardly noticeable

https://imgur.com/a/AVXdzmD

I think the problem is they used a matte for the entire backdrop. They usually work a lot better when there’s other objects that help blend in to it. Like if the Falcon was a model, the rest as a matte wouldn’t be so bad. That poor ship is rough looking though.

https://youtu.be/hFadMn0EuO0?t=220

I think it’s a lot worse in motion. Also, the left side behind Lando looks so flat. And something is weird with the perspective, especially if you focus on the bottom of the frame when they start moving around near the end of the shot.

it’s way too low in the shot, as opposed to how straight on Han and Lando were shot.
but I’m pretty sure adywan confirmed he is replacing these with miniatures.

Telion said:

timdiggerm said:

O00ll00O said:

Darth Sadifous said:

Honestly, my number one ask is to replace that matte painting shot when Han is departing with the strike team and talking to Lando with the falcon in the background. It is the most obvious matte shot in the entire saga in my opinion. I am still shocked Lucas didn’t tinker with it during the special edition. Especially in HD it always stands out to me like a sore thumb to me.

It’s hardly noticeable

https://imgur.com/a/AVXdzmD

I think the problem is they used a matte for the entire backdrop. They usually work a lot better when there’s other objects that help blend in to it. Like if the Falcon was a model, the rest as a matte wouldn’t be so bad. That poor ship is rough looking though.

https://youtu.be/hFadMn0EuO0?t=220

I think it’s a lot worse in motion. Also, the left side behind Lando looks so flat. And something is weird with the perspective, especially if you focus on the bottom of the frame when they start moving around near the end of the shot.

There are serveral glaring issues with the shot. Although it is a beautiful matte, it does not look realistic in motion. Looking at this it definatly seems like a reshoot (or a way to comp to two actors into one shot becuase they weren’t there on the same day?), becuase they clearly had a set scene in the two closeup shots. But it has a massive inconistancy in ship placements from hanger establishing shot, to the wide with Lando and Han, the falcon is facing a different way. Then when Han walks of screen to the shuttle, it is on a completely different side of the hanger. The whole sequence is messed up start to finish.
On third viewing im wrong about how the ship placement is wrong, it more that there isn’t enough space for the location where Han and Lando talk, based on the Establishing shot, as its meant to be in the lower right corner, between the two ships, but there is something off about the scale/lighting/preportions of those shots, whihc is why that section reads badly, IMO.

At the end of the day, the worst part of that shot is when Lando seems to walk outside the reach of the stage lights 😂, I wonder how adywan’s gonna fix that.

Braltika said:

That guy with no name said:
At the end of the day, the worst part of that shot is when Lando seems to walk outside the reach of the stage lights 😂, I wonder how adywan’s gonna fix that.

Maybe have him walk ‘under’ something like a parked B-Wing if he decides to ‘fix’ the matte painting (just a random thought). But perhaps there are easier solutions.

that might work actually.

Now it’s been a while since watching RotJ where I’m wondering… was there ever an establishing shot of the planet Sullust where the Rebels were having their rendezvous prior to the DS2 attack? Could something like this be on the cards? Maybe some random ship (like the Ghost) could enter the planet’s atmosphere and land where the base is at to show where the meeting is taking place?

Actually, come to think of it, they were still in their ships, weren’t they? Maybe a backdrop of Sullust then…

I love Boba Fett and have never minded the way he “went” out. Glad we got the show too.

Honestly, his scene in ROTJ just adds to the chaos that Luke started on the Sail Barge and I love it. Also helps to show that Boba is just a normal guy who can kick ass and not some almighty action hero like everyone likes to portray him.

FVDnz said:

Actually, come to think of it, they were still in their ships, weren’t they? Maybe a backdrop of Sullust then…

The entirety of the Rebel rendezvous takes place on the Rebel Starcruiser. There’s no planet visible, and although Vader says they’re massing near Sullust, “near” in the grand scale of space can 100% mean that no planet, or even the star Sullust orbits (or maybe Sullust is the star), should appear. On the galactic scale, “near Earth” could mean somewhere beyond Pluto. The lack of any notable stars or planets in all of the exterior shots of the Fleet enhances the sense of isolation and attempted hiding from the Empire.

timdiggerm said:

FVDnz said:

Actually, come to think of it, they were still in their ships, weren’t they? Maybe a backdrop of Sullust then…

The entirety of the Rebel rendezvous takes place on the Rebel Starcruiser. There’s no planet visible, and although Vader says they’re massing near Sullust, “near” in the grand scale of space can 100% mean that no planet, or even the star Sullust orbits (or maybe Sullust is the star), should appear. On the galactic scale, “near Earth” could mean somewhere beyond Pluto. The lack of any notable stars or planets in all of the exterior shots of the Fleet enhances the sense of isolation and attempted hiding from the Empire.

Thanks for the clarification…

Jedi122 said:

At the beginning of the movie, there’s a continuity error with two matte paintings that are meant to be the same hangar exterior, but from different angles.

https://i0.wp.com/img.screencaps.us/198/4k-swreturnjedi/full/4k-swreturnjedi-starwarsscreencaps.com-189.jpg?ssl=1

https://i0.wp.com/img.screencaps.us/198/4k-swreturnjedi/full/4k-swreturnjedi-starwarsscreencaps.com-224.jpg?ssl=1

See how there’s a hangar missing on the far right of the second shot that was in the first shot?

Never noticed that, wow keen eye.