Here's a bit of an odd question, and I don't think it's been addressed previously:
When Luke's hand is cut off, his lightsaber shuts off as it (along with his hand) falls out of view. However, shouldn't it stay on? I don't think his severed hand shut it off on the way down the mine shaft. lol
I think it's one of those things where a lightsabre is only on if the user has his/her finger on the activation button. Thus, once one takes their finger off the button, it automatically deactivates (or in this case, their entire hand).
Granted, in JEDI Vader throws his lightsabre at Luke up on the walkway and the sabre stays activated when it knocks the walkway down (and Luke with it). One can say that a Force user can use the Force to keep the button pressed down to allow the throwing of an active lightsabre, but that would require at least a small bit of concentration. When one is getting their hand chopped off, it's probably a bit hard to concentrate on anything.
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^Plus, not ready was he to have his hand chopped off and keep the lightsaber lit. Incomplete was his training.
EyeShotFirst said:
It isn't like he is buying beer and hookers with your money guys, he is using it for the project.
You know, after all the crap Ady has been going through, maybe he SHOULD have a "Beer and Hookers" donation account.
I say after JEDI:R (or after ARSE) we set up a "vacation for Ady account" so he can at least take a week off with the wife (and/or kids) that is STAR WARS free.
Ripplin: but would that even be a part of his training? Can you imagine Yoda saying something like:
Yoda: "Your weapons.. you will not need them.."
Luke puts them on anyways
Yoda: "(sigh) But if you are going to take your weapons, just remember that if your hand is chopped off, you must concentrate to keep your sabre activated."
Luke: "What was that last part?!?"
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
Yeah, I always wondered about that, it's the same when Obi-Wan dies. This way it seems like he has to keep holding the button when it's on.
Edit: Oops, late again. But it think it'd be shit to have to hold the button all the time, quite impractical.
Harmy said:
Yeah, I always wondered about that, it's the same when Obi-Wan dies. This way it seems like he has to keep holding the button when it's on.
Imagine if it had stayed on when Obi-Wan died. His robes probably would've caught fire when the lit saber fell on them. :p One could almost make a version where it does that and when Vader pokes the robes with his foot, he's actually putting out the fire. Haha...oy.
Oh, um...ESB:R is cool.
Harmy said:
But it think it'd be shit to have to hold the button all the time, quite impractical.
Yeah, I imagine that would be really annoying. lol
Ripplin said:
Imagine if it had stayed on when Obi-Wan died. His robes probably would've caught fire when the lit saber fell on them. :p One could almost make a version where it does that and when Vader pokes the robes with his foot, he's actually putting out the fire. Haha...oy.
Oh, um...ESB:R is cool.
Yes, and then Vader's cape catches on fire, and as Luke shoots the door control and everyone is getting onboard the Falcon, Vader is catching on fire and frantically trying to put himself out. Meanwhile, the stormtroopers try to put Vader out, only to realize just how easy plastic melts, much less the acrylic undergarments underneath.
Later, everyone on Yavin 4 is wondering: "Shouldn't the Death Star be here by now?" Whereupon an edit later and the DS is the Towering Inferno.
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I always assumed it was sort of like a riding lawnmower,
perhaps the Lightsaber has a hand/heat sensor?
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I agree with those saying that pressure is needed to keep the lightsaber activated. Like Monroville said, Vader's lightsaber in ROTJ was still on when he through it because he was using the force to hold it. However, I kinda disagree with the heat sensor part and think it's pressure only.
Yes, it makes perfect sense. It's a safety measure. All of my lawn tools have that feature. I fell off a ladder once trimming the bushes, and I thank God the hedge trimmer shut off before it hit me in the shin.
Deadman switch, right?
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The Golden Idol said:
Harmy said:
But it think it'd be shit to have to hold the button all the time, quite impractical.
Yeah, I imagine that would be really annoying. lol
Well, here's an idea: maybe they use the force to keep lightsabers on/switch them off? I mean, if it was how they were trained then maybe using the force to keep a switch or a pressure sensor on would be easy, almost second nature. This is sort of an imperfect idea, I know, as I'm not sure how great Luke's force abilities would have actually been in ANH/ESB, but if it were easy enough then he might have been able to catch on quickly? It would certainly account for lightsabers staying on/going off at a user's will even when not in said user's physical possession. Thoughts?
Monroville said:
I think it's one of those things where a lightsabre is only on if the user has his/her finger on the activation button. Thus, once one takes their finger off the button, it automatically deactivates (or in this case, their entire hand).
Granted, in JEDI Vader throws his lightsabre at Luke up on the walkway and the sabre stays activated when it knocks the walkway down (and Luke with it). One can say that a Force user can use the Force to keep the button pressed down to allow the throwing of an active lightsabre, but that would require at least a small bit of concentration. When one is getting their hand chopped off, it's probably a bit hard to concentrate on anything.
I always assumed there was a lock feature on the activation button. Like you have on some flash lights.....
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I never, once, ever thought about how the lightsaber stays on.
TV's Frink said:
I never, once, ever thought about how the lightsaber stays on.
me neither.......once I choose to accept the reality of another world or universe, or time, I also choose to accept that there will be some things about it that I dont understand and that won't be explained to me. Do I know WHY Vader's saber stays on when he throws it? No, I don't. I choose to believe he can, and it ends there.
(although perhaps there is some form of entertainment derived from trying to figure out the "why" of things in movies that we enjoy?.....not something that entertains me, but I guess it does it for some people)
Captain Antilles said:
Well, here's an idea: maybe they use the force to keep lightsabers on/switch them off? I mean, if it was how they were trained then maybe using the force to keep a switch or a pressure sensor on would be easy, almost second nature. This is sort of an imperfect idea, I know, as I'm not sure how great Luke's force abilities would have actually been in ANH/ESB, but if it were easy enough then he might have been able to catch on quickly? It would certainly account for lightsabers staying on/going off at a user's will even when not in said user's physical possession. Thoughts?
That would make sense, except in ESB, Han uses Luke's lightsaber to slice open the tauntaun, and as far as we know, Han has no Force abilities.
I guess we're getting off topic. I've got another question about ESB:R:
Is it possible to fix the white soles of Chewie's feet that are visible when he is running from Cloud City with Leia and Lando?
Ok.......lets put this lightsaber debate to bed, heres fellow Ulster-man Liam Neeson de-mystifying the issue.........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3ybEn9GFZU
Back on subject!!......white soles on Chewies feet......i think I've got an interview with Peter Meyhew some....where..............?
J
Maybe is simple as "press the button to ignite saber, press again to switch it off"... and Luke's finger just presses the button as a nervous reaction when his hand's cut off (galactic Ockham's blade) :)
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I think Chewie's feet were "fixed" long ago*, but I could be mistaken. I just checked the first post, thinking it had things that have been finished scratched off, but it doesn't. Where am I thinking of?
*I don't mean the snowflake. Or the grain of sand.
The Golden Idol said:
Captain Antilles said:
Well, here's an idea: maybe they use the force to keep lightsabers on/switch them off? I mean, if it was how they were trained then maybe using the force to keep a switch or a pressure sensor on would be easy, almost second nature. This is sort of an imperfect idea, I know, as I'm not sure how great Luke's force abilities would have actually been in ANH/ESB, but if it were easy enough then he might have been able to catch on quickly? It would certainly account for lightsabers staying on/going off at a user's will even when not in said user's physical possession. Thoughts?
That would make sense, except in ESB, Han uses Luke's lightsaber to slice open the tauntaun, and as far as we know, Han has no Force abilities.
Nothing is stopping Han from pressing and holding the button manually for the 2 seconds required to expose some intestines to the camera.
The Golden Idol said:
Here's a bit of an odd question, and I don't think it's been addressed previously:
When Luke's hand is cut off, his lightsaber shuts off as it (along with his hand) falls out of view. However, shouldn't it stay on? I don't think his severed hand shut it off on the way down the mine shaft. lol
Okay TGI, just for fun, here's my own take on this whole lightsaber issue, since you've brought it up -
Firstly, I don't look on Liam Neeson's jokey, 'simplified' explanation in that Youtube clip as being accurate...as I don't like to think that the 'on'/'off' button on the handle *must* be pressed first whenever we see someone suddenly disarmed of a lightsaber that's then seen to 'switch off'. That's not a very plausible explanaion.
What I prefer to think is that the 'on'/'off' button is just used whenever someone is wanting to 'switch off' their blade whenever they are done using it...and still in control of it, holding it. And this includes Han. And the button doesn't need to be held 'on'...but merely switched 'on' and 'off' when required.
But whenever we see an instance of a lightsaber being suddenly released from someone's grip, such as when Luke's one drops onto the gantry after he crashes through the 'Vane' window...or when Ben's one drops after he 'disappears' at the end of the duel with Vader...then there is just *some kind* of automatic 'safety' cut-off that then immediately kicks in, when it's released/dropped from someone's grip.
So what about this example you've brought up, where Luke's lightsaber is technically still *in the grip* of his lopped-off hand? Well, the actual footage shows a large spray of sparks when this happens, due to Vader's lightsaber making contact with Luke's one at the same time as it cuts his hand off...so I always just look on Luke's lightsaber as being severely 'damaged' at this point, and that's why we see it 'shut off' in this particular instance...even though his hand is still holding it at this point!
However, when we see Vader throw his lightsaber at Luke, I just look on this as being an instance where he deliberately uses his 'Force' powers to keep his lightsaber fully-activated when he releases it...over-riding it's automatic 'safety' cut-off...
ALTERNATIVELY, it can be equally *imagined* that it's possible to make the blade stay actived on releasing the lightsaber...if you deliberately press it to do so using, say, a quick 'double press' of the 'on'/'off' button, or something similar that allows it to...
Hope that helps a little.
Ripplin said:
I think Chewie's feet were "fixed" long ago*, but I could be mistaken. I just checked the first post, thinking it had things that have been finished scratched off, but it doesn't. Where am I thinking off?
I may be wrong Ripplin, but you could be thinking of GoodMusician's 'Suggestion Terminal' thread, where I started to gather a few things together myself at one point -
http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Adywans-ESB-edit-Suggestion-Terminal/post/387491/#TopicPost387491
I don't recall anything about a fix concerning Chewie's 'feet' being on it though...but I still hope to get around to adding a whole heap more of everyone's past/future suggestions to that, for easy reference for myself and others, sometime.
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As a suggestion for Ady (to actually bring it back on subject), when you do the reshoot on the Wampa scene(s) (no doubt specifically the one where the Wampa rushes up on Luke right when he frees himself from the cave ceiling), maybe you could have the new Wampa costume/puppet pull its right arm back and end the shot in mid-swing, so when you go to the next cut showing Luke swing his lightsabre (and the following scene showing the Wampa arm fall onto the ground) it would give the impression that Luke is cutting the Wampa's arm off as it is swinging towards him.
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
It would be far easier for Jedi to have an on/off button on their hilt that actually works. Especially if they use lightsaber throws on enemies.
Imagine having to both guide the lightsaber, keep it on, and focus on your other enemies as well? Should be brutal on any Jedi's mind :p LOL
On topic: I definitely like Monro's idea.
Sounds natural as is, and that's what it should have looked like, judging from Luke's split second reaction.
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