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dark_jedi said:

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

Saying that Ady's changes are ok because they are "better" than the SE changes kinda misses DJ's point.

Thank you Puggo, well put, there are just far to many AK's in this thread and just do not see the point.

 People can see the point and still have one of their own. Which is why, when I post, I usually use "IMHO" to clarify that I am not necessarily trying to convince anyone that MY way of thinking is the correct one, but only that there are indeed differing opinions out there.....regardless of how well one thinks they have made their point, and/or how convinced they think  people should be by it

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I like most of the 16-min sneak peek changes, but I just knów I've missed a few. Does anybody have the intention of creating one of those delightful picture comparison sets?

Whoever will, YOU RULE! :-D

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What the hell is happening in here? First it was the Format argument and then it quickly became the "Ronto trooper" flame war.I don't want to have to wade through all this kind of  crap everytime i come in.

And this trooper thing has me surprised. I released a clip a long time ago of the hangar entrance and the added troopers were in the but the only comments ever made about it was about the trooper i added next to the turret that was looking through the binoculars. Not one comment about the troopers that walk into shot for the last few frames. Well i'm not changing it, and how the hell can this be compared to the bloody Ronto shot?

Lord Grievous said:

Ady, do you have any idea how big the 720p MKV file would be? I'm hoping for at least 4GB :)

Nice bacta tank screens!

I'm still not sure if i will go with a mkv release, but if i did it would be a lot bigger than 4GB. I won't know exactly what i am doing until everything is finished and i then see what the best format for the  HD version will be.

greedo said:

won't the extras be on PAL dvd-9 as well?

most probably not and the special features disc will only be a DVD-5

ImperialFighter said:

...not counting the DVD-5 for your ESB:R 'behind-the-scenes' features, am I right to assume the others listed will be the same proposed formats for all your future edits too then adywan?

Yes. Whichever formats i go with for this edit will then be the set formats for the whole Revisited saga

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At least there is no debate about the meaning of the word "laser" in this thread. ;-)

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Wow, this thread has really turned to the dark side.

Anyway; Ady,what ever format you choose, I hope it's compatible with my sony blu-ray player, because A new Hope: revisited sure isn't. Sony doesn't support the majority of the codecs people use for fan edits.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

Anyway; Ady,what ever format you choose, I hope it's compatible with my sony blu-ray player, because A new Hope: revisited sure isn't. Sony doesn't support the majority of the codecs people use for fan edits.

That doesn't make sense.  Most fanedits are DVD compliant.  I can see you having an issue with AVCHD, or other formats like avi, but DVDs (including ANHR) should work on pretty much any player.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

Wow, this thread has really turned to the dark side.

Anyway; Ady,what ever format you choose, I hope it's compatible with my sony blu-ray player, because A new Hope: revisited sure isn't. Sony doesn't support the majority of the codecs people use for fan edits.

Sony doesn't support standard DVD format?  Somehow I doubt that...

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

Wow, this thread has really turned to the dark side.

Anyway; Ady,what ever format you choose, I hope it's compatible with my sony blu-ray player, because A new Hope: revisited sure isn't. Sony doesn't support the majority of the codecs people use for fan edits.

What? Really? It plays fine on my samsung blu-ray player. I don't see how that's even possible.

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TV's Frink said:

That doesn't make sense.  Most fanedits are DVD compliant.  I can see you having an issue with AVCHD, or other formats like avi, but DVDs (including ANHR) should work on pretty much any player.

 

ChainsawAsh said:

Sony doesn't support standard DVD format?  Somehow I doubt that...

 

BloodnoseThePirate said:

What? Really? It plays fine on my samsung blu-ray player. I don't see how that's even possible.

 

Oh, it plays store bought DVD's fine, but pop in a fan edit, and all it says is "unknown". Firm ware has been updated, and I have tried it on other Sony Blu-ray players and it still wont work. I have a Sony BDP-S350. 

Seems to work on most standard dvd players though except for the SONY brands. Haven't found a Sony brand yet that will play it, including the Playstation 3. It will; however, play on my Denon. I have been told that Sony doesn't support Piracy, so they don't include the mpeg codecs that fan edits use on their players. Mpeg codecs are not all the same, even if they are dvd compliant. If I'm not mistaken Ady uses Directshow pro for all of his encoding, and those mpeg codecs it uses are not supported my SONY.

Now dvd Rips are a different story, they work on any sony player, because the codecs don't change when you rip and burn to another disc. I have tried many of those with great success.

I hope the AVCHD codecs that Directshow pro uses are supported by Sony, or I'm going to have to settle with the DVD-9 and just play it on m dvd only Denon.

 

 

 

 

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Don't know what to tell you, bro.  I just tossed my DVD9 burn into my Sony PS3 and played like a champ.  I then tried in my Sony DAV-HDX265 and it is smooth sailing there as well.  

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My DVD-9 of ANH:R plays on both my PS3s as well (I believe one is 3rd generation, the other the current slim model).  I don't know what could be wrong at your end AuggieBenDoggie.  Are you in North America or elsewhere?  I'm just wondering if PS3s in different countries have different restrictions.

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Are you using the PAL or NTSC DVD, and what region is your player?

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I bought my original 'fat' PS3 launch model back in 2007 in Belgium (aka PAL), and have been playing burned DVD5s, DVD9s, fanedits, etc.. etc.., both in PAL and NTSC format. Never had an issue anywhere. Not with any single disc.

The only thing I do is burn all my DVDs through Nero Recode, because for some reason DVDShrink doesn't recognize my Nero installation anymore.
Not that I care, since Recode works fine.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

... I have been told that Sony doesn't support Piracy, so they don't include the mpeg codecs that fan edits use on their players. Mpeg codecs are not all the same, even if they are dvd compliant. If I'm not mistaken Ady uses Directshow pro for all of his encoding, and those mpeg codecs it uses are not supported my SONY.

This is bollocks.

And off topic. If you want to discuss players and formats, please use the Technical Discussions forum.

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AuggieBenDoggie said:

 

TV's Frink said:

That doesn't make sense.  Most fanedits are DVD compliant.  I can see you having an issue with AVCHD, or other formats like avi, but DVDs (including ANHR) should work on pretty much any player.

 

 

 

ChainsawAsh said:

Sony doesn't support standard DVD format?  Somehow I doubt that...

 

 

 

BloodnoseThePirate said:

What? Really? It plays fine on my samsung blu-ray player. I don't see how that's even possible.

 

 

Oh, it plays store bought DVD's fine, but pop in a fan edit, and all it says is "unknown". Firm ware has been updated, and I have tried it on other Sony Blu-ray players and it still wont work. I have a Sony BDP-S350. 

Seems to work on most standard dvd players though except for the SONY brands. Haven't found a Sony brand yet that will play it, including the Playstation 3. It will; however, play on my Denon. I have been told that Sony doesn't support Piracy, so they don't include the mpeg codecs that fan edits use on their players. Mpeg codecs are not all the same, even if they are dvd compliant. If I'm not mistaken Ady uses Directshow pro for all of his encoding, and those mpeg codecs it uses are not supported my SONY.

Now dvd Rips are a different story, they work on any sony player, because the codecs don't change when you rip and burn to another disc. I have tried many of those with great success.

I hope the AVCHD codecs that Directshow pro uses are supported by Sony, or I'm going to have to settle with the DVD-9 and just play it on m dvd only Denon.

 

 

 

 

What? I have a Sony DVD player and it plays just fine. i also have a PS3 and no problems there. Also my dad has a Sony Blu-Ray player and it plays without problems.  I don't know where you get Directshow Pro from because i use Procoder 3 for my Mpeg encoding. If there was any truth in what you had been told about Sony not supporting mpeg2 codecs then there would be an uproar on the net about this because that would mean that anyone who wanted to transfer their home movies from their camcorders etc would never be able to play them. So whoever told you that is a complete bullshitter.  Plus i would have received many complaints from Sony users that ANH:R didn't work in their players, which i have not.

Plus i think you should read this:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-players-recorders/119827-problems-sony-bdp-s350.html

looks to me like it is your player and nothing to do with "fan edit" discs at all

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Yeah, the codecs used on ANH-R's DVD-5 and DVD-9 releases are absolutely no different than the codecs used on any commercially released DVD, so the idea that Sony doesn't support the codecs is just ridiculous.

I'd say it's likely a bad burn - are you using Memorex media, by chance?

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Moth3r said:

If you want to discuss players and formats, please use the Technical Discussions forum.

 

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I've said it before and I'll say it again.

It's really late in the project.

It's inevitable that when footage is shown people will make comments along the "maybe it would be better if" or "perhaps that doesn't quite fit" line and sometimes it may come from bits of footage already seen because seen in a larger context sometimes certain elements pop out where they didn't before or maybe people did see the earlier posting and this is there first exposure to those elements.

I could well understand Ady just wanting to push ahead and feeling a bit dragged down by all these comments but they come from the desire to help.

If comments of a critical nature aren't welcome the best way to avoid them is for Ady to just stop showing footage and press ahead with the confidence that by now he has pretty much mapped out where he is going anyway.

Showing footage reminds people that this project is still alive and kicking and can generate interest in contributing to it and Ady's future projects but it will bring comments.

If showing the footage is beneficial in terms of exposure my advice to Ady would be just don't get annoyed by the comments.

I really find it difficult to actually suggest anything new when I see a fresh clip or if something pops into my head at this point because it is so close to being complete.

Anything I could suggest could only serve to annoy or (in the unlikely case of my suggesting something Ady hadn't already considered and he liked) set back the completion of the thing by prompting further adjustments.

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ChainsawAsh said:

I'd say it's likely a bad burn - are you using Memorex media, by chance?

 

Sorry moth3r, had to reply to this.

I used Verbatim Dual Layer dvd roms, ( the ones made in Singapore ) for the burn. It could be a faulty rom, but I don't have any more to test out.  I still have all the original files. Guess I should go out and get some more dvd roms and re burn.

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Some players will not play -R discs, I've experienced this myself where a -R will play on a computer fine but not on some DVD players. 

Perhaps Auggie has used a -R by accident.

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Bingowings said:

Some players will not play -R discs, I've experienced this myself where a -R will play on a computer fine but not on some DVD players. 

Perhaps Auggie has used a -R by accident.

I think its more likely the same problem other people who have the same player have had. His exact problem has been reported here, and how to fix it:

http://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-players-recorders/119827-problems-sony-bdp-s350.html

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I have the Sony BDP-S350 and I have not seen any of this, ever, and I burn all kinds of AVCHD's and Blu-rays, and retail Blu-ray, and all kinds of burned DVDr's and DVD+DL's, and firmware is up to date.

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The verbatim discs  I used were the +R; however, burn speed might not be the problem. I have ripped and burned many dvd's faster than 2.4 and they work in the sony. It's mainly the fan edits of ( any kind ) that wont work with in player. All store bought DVD's and Blu-rays work fine, so firmware is not really the issue IMO. Lenses are clean. Unplugging and plugging back in does not work. I guess the problem is with SONY. It just wont play certain discs.  I will trying burning it one more time at 2.4 and see if it's the burn speed that the player has a problem with. Maybe the fan edits need to be burned at a slower speed.

Thanks for the feed back folks!

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