Thanks. I didn't notice the new background in the old flip shot if I hadn't been trying to line up frames. A lot of things don't line up perfectly, everything about nearly every shot is tweaked.Ripplin said:
Thanks for the reminder, Imp. :)
Edit: Nice job, 005! I always miss something, like the shadow of the SD on the SSD. Nice little touch he did there.
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Lord Grievous said:
Yeah thanks Doubleofive :)
On a wee side note, I got my copy of "The Making of the Empire Strikes Back" hardcover today!
Nice! I'm waiting for the softcover.
005, how many times did you watch the clip before you finished the comparison shots? I would imagine, um...several? ;)
I too wait for the softcover, as I can't stand things that don't match and I can't find the MoSW hardcover any more.Ripplin said:
Lord Grievous said:Nice! I'm waiting for the softcover.
Yeah thanks Doubleofive :)
On a wee side note, I got my copy of "The Making of the Empire Strikes Back" hardcover today!
005, how many times did you watch the clip before you finished the comparison shots? I would imagine, um...several? ;)
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Incredible colours on the Christmas clip -- didn't realize just how improved they really were until I saw that side-by-side comparison. Thanks 005.
“It’s a lot of fun… it’s a lot of fun to watch Star Wars.” – Bill Moyers
Hey Merry Christmas, y'all ;)
Yeah, It's Christmas!!!!!!!!!!
Everybody.............enjoy.
Nice comparisons 005....(not just sayin' that to avoid an off topic deletion).......makes you appreciate Mr Ady even more.
J
Sorry guys if i haven't replied to anything yet. It's a madhouse here getting everything ready for Christmas so i doubt i will have much time until the new year.
So A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE. :)
Merry Christmas everyone!
Children in the backseat of a car can cause accidents, but accidents in the backseat of a car can cause children.
MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE! :D
I've two questions:
As seen in my picture below, Yoda has three ridges of skin on his eyelids. However, in one of the newly added blinks, he has four. The blink should look more like Yoda's closed eyes that are in the end of the scene, with the three ridges more stretched out, because in the newly added blink, the fourth ridge suddenly appears from out of nowhere (this is visible in motion). The first added blink, when Yoda says "No! No different, only different in your mind!" is perfect, because the eyelids actually stretch over his eyes, but this one looks a bit odd when you look at it closely. Can you fix this, Ady?
Also, Ady, I don't remember this being mentioned, but are you planning to change the red coloring of the bacta tank in the shot where it's visible behind C-3PO? It was clear when Luke was swimming in it...
Holy hell......how are some of you even catching stuff like this? Is it really enjoyable to watch a movie under a magnifying glass like that?
muddyknees2000 said:
Holy hell......how are some of you even catching stuff like this? Is it really enjoyable to watch a movie under a magnifying glass like that?
Oh, the only reason I caught that was because I thought that one of Yoda's new blinks looked slightly odd, and it took me a while to figure out why.
And I definitely don't watch movies like this, I was just scrutinizing Ady's amazing efforts. :)
RE the bacta tank red/clear thing - I'm pretty sure that it's only red when it's not in use. It doesn't bother me.
muddyknees2000 said:
Holy hell......how are some of you even catching stuff like this? Is it really enjoyable to watch a movie under a magnifying glass like that?
I agree with you on this one, I for one will not be watching this frame by frame, I know there are people who want things 100% perfect but sometimes when fixing an error, editing a scene or just plain doing some new FX there are compromises in that process.
If we nit pick "every" miniscule fix this will never get done. You know how many errors there are just in Chewies hair placement between cuts alone? Me neither but some are noticeable but I dont expect them to be fixed. ;-)
Before anyone says it, cause I know they will, "If it wasnt for us some of the things that were wrong wouldnt be fixed and its people like us who nit pick that help Ady find things that need to be fixed that he may not have noticed"...I agree to a point.
Dont get my comment twisted, all Im saying is sometings are better left alone.
But other than that Merry Christmas Eve or Day depending on where you are.
The Golden Idol said:
MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE! :D
I've two questions:
As seen in my picture below, Yoda has three ridges of skin on his eyelids. However, in one of the newly added blinks, he has four. The blink should look more like Yoda's closed eyes that are in the end of the scene, with the three ridges more stretched out, because in the newly added blink, the fourth ridge suddenly appears from out of nowhere (this is visible in motion). The first added blink, when Yoda says "No! No different, only different in your mind!" is perfect, because the eyelids actually stretch over his eyes, but this one looks a bit odd when you look at it closely. Can you fix this, Ady?
Are you kidding? This all happens in the blink of an eye. I'm putting a lump of coal in your stocking.
Sluggo said:
Are you kidding? This all happens in the blink of an eye. I'm putting a lump of coal in your stocking.
That's why they call him The Golden EYEdol. XD
Sorry if I annoyed you guys, just making a suggestion. lol
no-one's annoyed in the least.......I think some just get a little carried away with details. Once they start looking a little deeper into things, its always very easy to look just a little bit deeper...and then it never ends. BUT...thats just MY opinion. If people enjoy disecting it down to its atoms, then all the power to them.
I agree with Golden idol.
We both enjoy the movies from a long distance and with a magnifying glass.
Achieving the perfection is always welcome and thanks to these who contributing here this edit went from good to awesome and from awesome to best.
Now sit back and enjoy the original ESB and relax in the Xmas mood ;)
Merry Xmas all :D
-Angel
The main reason I'm bringing that up is that if you watch closely, the extra ridge actually comes out from under one of the other ridges (again, this is only visible in motion). This is impossible, which is why I'd rather it was fixed.
lol, not sure if this has been mentioned, but I'm listening to the center audio channel of ESB (Adywan's Theatrical Reconstruction, though this is probably the case in all versions)... I'm listening to Vader's speech to Luke just after the reveal, and you can actually hear Jones taking in breaths before the lines. Obviously, since it's Vader talking this shouldn't be heard.
Is it gonna be fixed at all?,
The Golden Idol said:
What about this suggestion?
The Golden Idol said:
Ady, I have one more suggestion regarding Yoda in the clip. Right after Luke is unable to raise the X-Wing, Yoda sighs and shakes his head. When he shakes his head, his entire upper body shakes along with it, and it looks puppetlike, as if the head isn't articulated separately. Now I don't know how hard it is to do, but would you be able to stabilize Yoda's body while he shakes his head?
I don't have a problem with that either. He's really old and its not so far fetched that he hasn't got as supple neck movements as someone younger. Just try shaking your head but not moving your neck as much as you normally would and just watch your shoulders and upper body move.
gurgle1624 said:
What concerns me more than the body movement with Yoda, which I noticed but didnt really care about, is the scaling of the floating X-Wing as it advances towards Luke. It just seems that the scaling is off.
Yeh, there's something about that shot that always made the X-wing look too small. The scaling is probably correct it's just that it doesn't look quite right due to the compositing. I might tweak this a bit to give the impression that it looks the right scale.
ImperialFighter said:
Can you also confirm if it's going to be possible to match the actual shape of the miniature's inset window with the angles seen on the full-scale one, or not?
No, i'm not going to change anything there
Jaitea said:
Ady, here's a R2-D2 sound generator should you need to create any new pieces
http://www.r2d2translator.com/
J
Thanks for the link but it doesn't really work very well and couldn't be used for an edit
euroherbal said:
Speaking of generators... Any news about the Hoth shield generator? Is it going to be shot as a model or a CGI?
No, it's still going to be a model.
Lord Grievous said:
Ady, is this flipped/expanded shot still in:
yes
The Golden Idol said:
MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY HOLIDAYS, AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE! :D
I've two questions:
As seen in my picture below, Yoda has three ridges of skin on his eyelids. However, in one of the newly added blinks, he has four. The blink should look more like Yoda's closed eyes that are in the end of the scene, with the three ridges more stretched out, because in the newly added blink, the fourth ridge suddenly appears from out of nowhere (this is visible in motion). The first added blink, when Yoda says "No! No different, only different in your mind!" is perfect, because the eyelids actually stretch over his eyes, but this one looks a bit odd when you look at it closely. Can you fix this, Ady?
Also, Ady, I don't remember this being mentioned, but are you planning to change the red coloring of the bacta tank in the shot where it's visible behind C-3PO? It was clear when Luke was swimming in it...
well you must have been watching it frame by frame to spot that one. It isn't visible when watched at full speed because the blink it too quick. I've fixed it anyway
And the bacta tank is red when luke is in it too. It's just that the bright light used to illuminate it drowned out the red lighting of the tank. It's even more impossible to see that it was lit red thanks to the crappy colouring of the 2004 set. I think it works perfectly well the way it is now.
rpvee said:
lol, not sure if this has been mentioned, but I'm listening to the center audio channel of ESB (Adywan's Theatrical Reconstruction, though this is probably the case in all versions)... I'm listening to Vader's speech to Luke just after the reveal, and you can actually hear Jones taking in breaths before the lines. Obviously, since it's Vader talking this shouldn't be heard.
Is it gonna be fixed at all?,
You can hear this throughout the saga so i'm not going to be changing anything.
Bingowings said:
It might be possible to build a small model of the section of the interior of the medical frigate seen from those angles (enough to get the lighting and a bit of the floor right) and drop it into the shots where the lights are out.
filming a model to replace the inside and then match the camera movements would be impossible. I'll have to find a different way to fix this.
Monroville said:
will the frigate engines be changed to have a similar blue glow per the transport and Star Destroyers (or an orange one, or even a more pure white)? As it is, the engine glow is pretty pekid.
May want to also check ship hull colors to make sure they retain consistent coloring (as the prior pre-mod shot frigate hull is brown-grey).
The engines will be getting a tweak, but they will remain yellow as they were originally in 1980
The colouring problem was only introduced in 2004. This was fixed during the colour correction process and can be seen in the ESB AVCHD although reintroducting the subtle brown highlights became impossible without rotoscoping every single highlight
savmagoett said:
Ady, I don't know if I mentioned it, but I actually have an inside/outside analysis of the medical frigate ongoing, with blueprint of the inside set as well as the frigate model, that should be very helpful to figuring out what should be done with these shots. I've been too busy with other things lately, but I'll try to finish it and post it soon if I can…
That could be very handy to reconstruct the interior to fix the blank window shot. thanks
adywan said:
The Golden Idol said:
well you must have been watching it frame by frame to spot that one. It isn't visible when watched at full speed because the blink it too quick. I've fixed it anyway
I actually wasn't watching it frame by frame, but I'll take that as a compliment of my eyesight. :P Thanks very much for fixing it! :)
Christmas was two days ago.
Merry Two-Days-After-Christmas.
The Golden Idol said:
I actually wasn't watching it frame by frame, but I'll take that as a compliment of my eyesight. :P Thanks very much for fixing it! :)
Its impressive how many "final" clips were gone back in the FX room for fixing details. Im wondering if the final piece will still have small errors and inconsistence. Its impressive too that the effort of doing these things with the attention to the detail
-Angel
vaderios said:
Im wondering if the final piece will still have small errors and inconsistence.
Of course, as the only way to fix some of them is to invent a time machine and go back and re-film some scenes. ;)
