STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 856

Just a question from a curious observer...  Do you guys ever find that obsessive frame by frame nit-picking of a movie like this, and the incredible amount of knowledge you have of all the behind the scenes magic ever prevent you from simply losing yourself in the story?   Can you sit down, watch it from start to finish and lose yourself in it, or do you find yourself analyzing every little bit? 

I've watched ANH:R many times now and love how all the little changes have made the SW world so much more vivid and real, and I expect even greater things from ESB:R and even so much more from ROTJ:R, but I don't have the level of involvement that you all seem to.  I can still lose myself in it without having to scrutinize every snowflake.

So, just wondering if the movie is still magic for all of you, like when you were 10, or if it's more of an appreciation of the technical elements now? 

After all the blood sweat and tears you've invested in this project, Adywan, will you ever be able to just sit back and watch it?  Just curious if all this has changed your perspective on it all. 

The 10 year old in me can barely hold his water waiting to finally see it the final project...  The anticipation is probably way more agonizing than waiting for the original theatrical releases!

While most people don't consciously notice the difference these small changes make (let's face it most people don't realise how bad the official DVDs are) they do, I believe notice them subconsciously.

The general feeling of things fitting makes the fantastic world more immersive so people can concentrate more on the story (the one thing about ESB that definitely needs no adjustment).

adywan said:

The Golden Idol said:

doubleofive said:

I said this on the FB copy and want to see if I'm just crazy: am I the only person who thinks the X-Wing should be starting to slip into the swamp as R2 to turning to watch it? 1. Why would he turn to look if he didn't suspect something and 2 I think it goes from perfectly still and all the way out of the water to the last part of it sinking rather quickly.

 I completely agree. Ady, what do you think?

Also, in the shot directly following the part where Luke fails to raise the X-Wing, Yoda closes his eyes in disappointment. When he closes his eyes, his right eye closes much quicker than his left. Is this going to be left in, or will you fix that?

I actually prefer not knowing that there is anything wrong with the X-wing until R2 goes nuts and puts Luke off his concentration. R2 could just be sensing something that we are unable to see or hear. And i don't think that Yoda's eye needs fixing

 Ady, I respect your decisions but I urge you to reconsider. The X-Wing couldn't have possibly sunk so much in such a short span of time when it was fine just a moment ago - making it start to sink in the first shot would make it more believeable. And about Yoda's eyes, it looks odd to me that Yoda's left eye takes about 2 seconds longer to close than his right eye, why would he close them separately? What's more, he never actually fully closes his left eye, which I believe was a puppeteering mistake. Also, in that same shot, the camera makes a jerky motion after Yoda closes his eyes and before he lowers his head, can this be smoothed out? This happens at 1:56 in the .mkv video.

vaderios said:

For those who missed it. the fade is obvious.

-Angel

You have got be kidding me. This is so indescribably non-essential... to fix...

vaderios said:

For those who missed it. the fade is obvious.

-Angel

 Oh wow, now I see it everytime I watch it...

vaderios said:

Fascinating isnt it? ;)

 

-Angel

Darn it! I just took a look at it and... I can't get it out of my head! It's there! Every time! Why?! Why did you show it to us? XD

It's not exactly a problem for me, so if it stays - it stays, but it would be cool if it got fixed.

I'm down for whatever. :)

Ady, I have one more suggestion regarding Yoda in the clip. Right after Luke is unable to raise the X-Wing, Yoda sighs and shakes his head. When he shakes his head, his entire upper body shakes along with it, and it looks puppetlike, as if the head isn't articulated separately. Now I don't know how hard it is to do, but would you be able to stabilize Yoda's body while he shakes his head?

Ripplin said:

^Fixing that is ok, but the one up there isn't? ;) This is about nitpicking, you know... There are things Adywan and others have found that even hardcore nitpickers have missed and yet he's fixing some of them anyway.

Man... just when you thought the ESB was a flawless movie - you find all these goofs and errors. Just imagine how much work is there to be done with ROTJ... not to mention the prequel trilogy! But, OK, that's off-topic. What I wanted to say was - kudos to Adywan for trying to fix all these things. That's some serious patience right there.

Inspiring stuff.

adywan said:

I think that after finishing this edit i should be certified clinically insane ;)

 clinically insane is exactly the way we like you

adywan said:

I think that after finishing this edit i should be certified clinically insane ;)

When going gets tough... the tough go insane. XD

In all seriousness, though - it will be fine. Just keep punching, man. :) 

adywan said:

 

Sorry, but i really don't see it as a problem so i'm not going to reconsider.The ship could easily have sunk in that amount of time. Showing signs of it sinking that early is unnecessary. In the scene you're supposed to be concentrating on Luke's training and if you showed something happening to the X-wing, then your attention is shifted. And again with Yodas eyes when closing them. Yoda's really old. there are a lot of old people who have one eye that doesn't close as quick as the other, or even close fully. So i don't see this as a problem

The jerky camera movement recently mentions i'm not going to touch. It isn't something as simple as just stabilising the video. Look closely and you can see that Yoda doesn't move, but the background shifts due to the camera. Now if i stabilized the background then suddenly Yoda would move for no reason. I don't see things like this as a problem, so no work to do on that.

 Okay Ady, it's your edit, do your thing. :)

What about this suggestion?

The Golden Idol said:

Ady, I have one more suggestion regarding Yoda in the clip. Right after Luke is unable to raise the X-Wing, Yoda sighs and shakes his head. When he shakes his head, his entire upper body shakes along with it, and it looks puppetlike, as if the head isn't articulated separately. Now I don't know how hard it is to do, but would you be able to stabilize Yoda's body while he shakes his head?

  What concerns me more than the body movement with Yoda, which I noticed but didnt really care about, is the scaling of the floating X-Wing as it advances towards Luke. It just seems that the scaling is off.

  Compare the size of the front landing gear as it advances towards Luke (using Luke as a size guide) and then as it actually lands in the close up shot next to Luke.

  Seems as if the X-Wing is smaller as it advances and then is its normal size as it lands, again using Luke as a guide.

   Either that or Ive just had to much eggnog tonite.

  as far as the ground issue with the dipping, I noticed that one leaf waaaay in the back blew to the left when we all know the wind was blowing to the right, just saying.  ;-P