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Wow, vaderios, I never even noticed that...
Kind of cheap, come to think of it.
Regarding the ongoing subject of Vader's hologram, I agree with HotRod. It's in plain sight, clear as day, that Vader is looking upwards, almost like with the giant Emperor head-hologram. Maybe he's using the same stuff, only not bending down on one knee this time?
I've seen this other concept on youtube, and I'm sure it was mentioned here as well, how Vader appeared on a monitor instead of as a hologram.
It looked like a damn laptop more than anything else and didn't have that authentic Star Wars feel to it.

Adywan, you're right. You should definitely keep the hologram.

FekLeyrTarg said:

And have you thought about making other language versions of your SW:R movies, especially german? (many people, including me, think that the imperials, Vader and Palpantine sound better in german)

Check out this thread:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Adywans-Star-Wars-Revisited-in-other-languages/topic/11447/

No solid list for ESB really. I have ideas on how to keep RotJR suggestions on track, however it is a long time away.

brash_stryker said:

thejediknighthusezni said:

Hey, all! Really enjoying these posts! This project is mind-blowing - I can't wait!      I've got some thoughts, but I'd like to ask some Q's before I try throwing in my $.02 .   Q1) Is there a list of proposed changes to ESB? The only list I could find is 005's beautiful photo-montage/list for ROTJ. I want to avoid repeating.    Q2) Is Ady doing some serious preliminary work on ROTJ, or is he all ESB right now?  

http://www2.originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/STAR-WARS-EP-V-REVISITED-EDITION-ADYWAN-RELEASE-DATE-2011/post/310397/#TopicPost310397

Indeed. I'm always amazed/impressed at how many people don't look at the first post of a thread. I mean...the beginning is usually a good place to begin. No offense, thejedi... But I mean, this is Adywan's thread and one would think he would lay out a plan of attack, so to speak, in the first post. ;)

To answer question 2, as far as we know, he has done nothing involving ROTJ yet, other than maybe buying that Falcon model which he plans to use in it, but that's also for ESB.

Assuming he follows form, he'll release a color corrected (and hopefully minimally restored, as in Lapti Nek and Sebastian Shaw ghost) AVCHD of ROTJ either very near or just after the completion of ESB:R, since he did the ESB AVCHD near the end of ANH:R gearing up for ESB:R.

Beyond that, I'm sure he's making notes for ROTJ:R as ideas hit him but won't say much until work officially begins on it.

ImperialFighter said:

I've been noting down the various remaining things I'd still like to cover since a while now.  Including the Executor holograms.

 

Heh, I actually never noticed all those re-used backdrops you pointed out there vaderios!  Strangely enough, I've never been too fussed about any of the various backdrop/skies/lighting inconsistentcies of the AT-AT battle, and am just really looking forward to the fixes/enhancements to the various vehicles/elements in the actual action itself.  I know how that kind of thing drives you crazy though.  ;)

Awesome! More analysis into the summer heat :D I ll make sure i will have a laptop in the beach ;)

I first seen the same backdrop when the walker was falling and said "oups something is duplicated here" Then all started looking familiar..

Its amazing how often the light changes during the battle.

-Angel

Sluggo said:

Radi0n said:

Wow, vaderios, I never even noticed that...
Kind of cheap, come to think of it.

I think ILM would have called it "cost-effective".  I forgive them for using such thrifty techniques in 1979.  For not doing anything about it in 1997?  Maybe that is a different thing.

You're quite right, Sluggo. They could have at least done something about it in the '97 SE. Now that we're slightly drifting in that direction anyhow, I'm still a little disappointed in Ady not using Temuera Morisson's voiceover, and actually re-using Jeremy Bulloch's. I know, I know, we've all grown up accustomed to Bulloch's voice, but if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Boba is Jango's clone, so he should have the same voice.

I might have stepped on some toes bringing this sore subject up again, but that's just my two cents.

Radi0n said:

I know, I know, we've all grown up accustomed to Bulloch's voice, but if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Boba is Jango's clone, so he should have the same voice.

Ady stated that PT should follow the OT and the other way around. Jango's helmet will alter his voice in AOTC:R. Maybe there is no Jango and its only boba... who knows who cares :P

We ve passed through this debate too :D

-Angel

thejediknighthusezni said:

The problem is really the first two of Leia's quips (""Would it help..." and "This bucket...") Those two set the tone for everything that follows up to the kiss, and her tone of voice and  facial expressions seem just flat-out angry. They were trying to redo the ANH DS+Falcon relationship, but with everything Han just did, It's a little too much, IMO. 

I'm wondering, could Leia's eyebrows be lifted and mouth opened, and could her voice be altered, to express as much fear and warning as annoyance? If the first two could be fixed, the entire sequence, from boarding to kiss, would work even better. That's my vote anyway. 

Hold on now... to change ANYTHING about how Leia is portrayed in Empire would be downright "sacrilegious". She gives to Han with both blasters ("I'd just as soon kiss a wookie..." and "nerfherder" and "...delusions, laserbrain."), but he gives it right back ("Your Highnessness", "She expressed her true feelings for me...", "Must've hit her pretty close to the mark...")

She WAS pissed off at him and the looks she shoots at him during the escape from Hoth are all kinds of white hot fiery, sexy awesomeness. This puts the ever cocksure Han in check. He's in a situation he doesn't know if he's going to get out of. Her lack of faith in him at this point in the story adds to the drama and the tension.

Remember, she does soften just a bit when he says "you said you want to be around when I made a mistake..." and she says "I take it back."

All of this pays off in spades when they kiss and carries us through the end of the movie when he is taken away. Just look at the look on her face when Slave 1 flies away. If you want to see fear in Leia, look at the Mynock scene.

I don't think there is a single person who didn't buy into their love for each other. They both went through a lot together, changing from what they were at the beginning of the story to what they were at the end of the story. (As Plinkett would say, "This is called a character arc.")

A problem? No way... not in my OT.

Radi0n said:

Wow, vaderios, I never even noticed that...
Kind of cheap, come to think of it.
Regarding the ongoing subject of Vader's hologram, I agree with HotRod. It's in plain sight, clear as day, that Vader is looking upwards, almost like with the giant Emperor head-hologram. Maybe he's using the same stuff, only not bending down on one knee this time?
I've seen this other concept on youtube, and I'm sure it was mentioned here as well, how Vader appeared on a monitor instead of as a hologram.
It looked like a damn laptop more than anything else and didn't have that authentic Star Wars feel to it.

Adywan, you're right. You should definitely keep the hologram.

You know, I think I've come full circle on this... I concur with the full body hologram. 

Mentioning the "Vader - Emperor hologram chat" makes me realize that Vader could very well just be standing on that glowing disc he kneeled on when the Emperor was calling up, which would mean that there would be a head-and-shoulders image of Veers in his chamber as Vader spoke to him.

Maybe the tech that is creating the Vader hologram could be changed to look like the circular pad Vader kneeled on (or have it projected from the console, ala R2's projector)?  Or maybe not change a thing?

vaderios said:

Radi0n said:

I know, I know, we've all grown up accustomed to Bulloch's voice, but if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Boba is Jango's clone, so he should have the same voice.

Ady stated that PT should follow the OT and the other way around. Jango's helmet will alter his voice in AOTC:R. Maybe there is no Jango and its only boba... who knows who cares :P

We ve passed through this debate too :D

 

-Angel

Okay then, done deal. It doesn't really make a difference to me, but I just wanted to share my opinion on that. :)

Jaitea said:

Radi0n said:

I'm still a little disappointed in Ady not using Temuera Morisson's voiceover, and actually re-using Jeremy Bulloch's. I know, I know, we've all grown up accustomed to Bulloch's voice, but if you think about it, it makes perfect sense. Boba is Jango's clone, so he should have the same voice.

I might have stepped on some toes bringing this sore subject up again, but that's just my two cents.

Jason Wingreen provided the original voice for Boba. Ady is reusing this original voice not only because it sounds better/cooler but because he doesn't believe that changes need made to the original trilogy just to fit into the poorly conceived new trilogy.

OI, the recent Vader hologram debate was kickstarted by me with this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwB1V3TLs9c

which eventually lead to Monroville's suggestion of a monitor

Is there the possibility of just replacing the shot with Vader on a viewscreen?  When you think about it, it is rather silly to have a smurf-sized Vader (or anyone) on what looks like a cigarette plug-in hologram add-on...

 

The 'laptop' idea wasn't my preferred concept, I was trying to mock up Monrovilles suggestion.

J

Thanks Jaitea, I realized my mistake too late. It was indeed Wingreen.

Monroville said:

Radi0n said:

Wow, vaderios, I never even noticed that...
Kind of cheap, come to think of it.
Regarding the ongoing subject of Vader's hologram, I agree with HotRod. It's in plain sight, clear as day, that Vader is looking upwards, almost like with the giant Emperor head-hologram. Maybe he's using the same stuff, only not bending down on one knee this time?
I've seen this other concept on youtube, and I'm sure it was mentioned here as well, how Vader appeared on a monitor instead of as a hologram.
It looked like a damn laptop more than anything else and didn't have that authentic Star Wars feel to it.

Adywan, you're right. You should definitely keep the hologram.

You know, I think I've come full circle on this... I concur with the full body hologram. 

Mentioning the "Vader - Emperor hologram chat" makes me realize that Vader could very well just be standing on that glowing disc he kneeled on when the Emperor was calling up, which would mean that there would be a head-and-shoulders image of Veers in his chamber as Vader spoke to him.

Maybe the tech that is creating the Vader hologram could be changed to look like the circular pad Vader kneeled on (or have it projected from the console, ala R2's projector)?  Or maybe not change a thing?

See, that's what I mean. Now we're on the same track. I think he was using that same dish, but only standing up this time, since Veers obviously isn't his superior. ;)

thejediknighthusezni said: The problem is really the first two of Leia's quips (""Would it help..." and "This bucket...") Those two set the tone for everything that follows up to the kiss, and her tone of voice and  facial expressions seem just flat-out angry. They were trying to redo the ANH DS+Falcon relationship, but with everything Han just did, It's a little too much, IMO. My problem with it, since my first viewing of ESB, was that it doesn't seem to align with the circumstances. When Leia showed only anger towards Han in the sickbay, there weren't 10,000 Stormtroopers within seconds of landing on top of them. It just didn't ring right for me. Apparently, I'm not the only one. The whole 'Family Guy' bunch has pains-takingly animated a concern I had as a boy, 30 years ago. I would like to see her show some situational awareness, not go any lighter on Han. As it stands, the pure anger she displays in those two quips tilts the whole boarding to kiss sequence a little too much into the 'Single minded angry nag' area, IMO. but thats the reason the scene is so awesome

 

but thats what makes the scene so great IMO i mean it annoys han so much that when Threepio says something to han he (han) puts his finger up basically saying "Shut up Goldenrod" and then goes into the cockpit and has to hit the falcon to get it to start,

and besides she doesnt seem so mad as she seems tired of han