Sooo, Facebook tells me Adywan's birthday is on Monday. Anything special planned?
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I wonder how exactly station 38 looked like, if a small bunker built with rocks and ice, a cave or just a tent with camo patterns... :) I say that because I somehow have a problem with a droid engaged in a spy/search mission shooting at potential objectives and essentially calling undesired attention to itself unless it´s in immediate danger... I think there is another scene in the novel where the probot encounters a wampa and kills it...
Enigmas said:
Sooo, Facebook tells me Adywan's birthday is on Monday. Anything special planned?
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Lobot is here..and then my ears got crazy...
I hope ady "strongly" consider to put these in the edit :P :P :P
-Angel
Marcos_Edson said:
I wonder how exactly station 38 looked like, if a small bunker built with rocks and ice, a cave or just a tent with camo patterns... :) I say that because I somehow have a problem with a droid engaged in a spy/search mission shooting at potential objectives and essentially calling undesired attention to itself unless it´s in immediate danger... I think there is another scene in the novel where the probot encounters a wampa and kills it...
According to the novel the main rebel base already has it on its radar (more advanced systems in the main base Im sure), and then as Han and Leia enter the room something comes through (the Probots transmission that we all hear in the movie) then C3-P0 does his thing, Han has an exchange...at this point we should hear Echo station 38 (come in on the Comlink console) say they have it on its scope and will have visual contact (or something to that effect) but before they can relay what it is they are blasted and the transmission ends...cut back to Han saying "It isnt friendly whatever it is".
The Probot would have blasted it as station 38 posed a threat to it's mission on transmitting the shield generator information that it had not been able to record up to that point. It didnt want to be stopped before it could record and send its message in other words.
According to Reekien (SP) Echo station is in zone 12 the same zone that station 38 is in.
I have a very rough clip that i will be posting tonite on what that scene may look and sound like. I am having a hard time making the billowing smoke pour from the top of the station (a turrent..I cheated) so I may not add it in at all but it will give an idea.
Just got vegas pro 9 and after effects so its a very steep learning curve for me at the novice stage.
vaderios said:
Lobot is here..and then my ears got crazy...
I hope ady "strongly" consider to put these in the edit :P :P :P
-Angel
Wow, that's...um...something. Rhymes with cupid.
Okay here it goes one last time....I realized just how much time it must take you guys to do a complete film...are you guys dedicated or what?
The more I worked just on this one clip the more I understood how serious and talented you have to be to do these types of films, my hat is off to you all.
I hope you enjoy the clip...and Ady? My God you have patience! I have more appreciation for the ANH:R than I did before (if that's possible).
Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YpyEkz0NAw
Nice idea gurgle1624, although as far as the existing movie footage goes, it always seemed quite natural to me that a naturally-suspicious Han would say something like that anyway when he's notified that some unknown 'metal' thing has suddenly been located on an otherwise technologicaly-barren planet, which then transmits something that 'language expert' C3P0 suggests could be an 'Imperial code'....
vaderios said:
And i cant find the pic i made showing it of(damn)
vaderios, I've caught up with the last fortnight's worth of comments since I last got a chance to look in, and hope to throw in a few thoughts of my own to do with the whole 'Falcon approaching Executor over Bespin' sequence that was brought up a few pages ago. I've managed to find that particular 'mock-up' of yours, which I'll include when I go into my issues with the existing footage.
Great work on the latest Hoth costume detailing adywan, and good to see you've successfully 'tinted' those 'goggles' Rogue Leader! Terrific stuff all round. While I'm not expecting to see 'extreme close-up's of the additional/replacement ground troops, it's sure nice to know that the details will be there in new footage. :)
ImperialFighter said:
Nice idea gurgle1624, although as far as the existing movie footage, it always seemed quite natural to me that a naturally-suspicious Han would say something like that anyway when he's notified that some unknown 'metal' thing has suddenly been located on an otherwise technologicaly-barren planet, which then transmits something that 'language expert' C3P0 suggests could be an 'Imperial code'....
Thanks, and yeah it could go either way. I dont figure Ady would use the idea as its considered EU but it was still fun hashing it out.
I think I've just read that missing scene way to many times and it's imbeded in my brain now.
OK, let me go a little bit back and return to the topic of the shiel generator, I made some mock up pictures of it in the actual scene:
vaderios said:
Lobot is here..and then my ears got crazy...
I hope ady "strongly" consider to put these in the edit :P :P :P
-Angel
When were Lobot's "sayings" even heard in the movie? o_O
I swear none of those sounds are in the movie.
Looking at a couple of the youtube clips of Adywans upcoming ESB Revisited, i feel that some of the removal of the blueish hue in the Hoth scenes done in the name of color correction are in error.
Especially in the outdoor scenes, some of the shadows in the snowy enviroment should have a blue tint, seeing as shadows are lit by indirect light which for the most part consists of atmospheric scattering and to some part light reflected from the snow in the enviroment, my 2c...
EDIT: Here's some of my army photos from couple years back to show what i'm talking about
Jokke_r said:
Looking at a couple of the youtube clips of Adywans upcoming ESB Revisited, i feel that some of the removal of the blueish hue in the Hoth scenes done in the name of color correction are in error.
Especially in the outdoor scenes, some of the shadows in the snowy enviroment should have a blue tint, seeing as shadows are lit by indirect light which for the most part consists of atmospheric scattering and to some part light reflected from the snow in the enviroment, my 2c...
EDIT: Here's some of my army photos from couple years back to show what i'm talking about
Actually, Ady kept more blue than you think.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Yeah, you'd never want to get rid of all of it, but I think he has found a happy medium with it.
doubleofive said:
Enigmas said:
Sooo, Facebook tells me Adywan's birthday is on Monday. Anything special planned?
he's probably going to go out and party. Why?
;-P
yep, off out with the kids ,their boyfriends and the wife and we're going to party hard :)
vaderios said:
Lobot is here..and then my ears got crazy...
What the hell were they thinking when they added this? I seriously hope this is a joke and not an indication of a newer version of Empire ;)
mfastx said:
But I want to ask: why you are changing Boba Fett's voice from the SE? Because all of your changes have to do with consistancy, and this changes just cancels out the consistancy established by the PT.
Also, on a side note, I wish (I know I'm probably the only one on here that does) that you would keep Vader's shuttle going back with the Executor. I agree with you about changing his line to "bring my shuttle," but when the SE shows Vader's shuttle, it just looks cool, those are my favorite Star Wars aircraft. Plus the music from the scene fits perfectly with that shot. I just want to know why you are scrapping that, I'm sure there's a good reason.
mfastx said:
I just noticed something while watching the original ESB, and I didn't think of it until now, but the original Boba Fett voice sounds like a well to do guy trying to sound intimidating. It's kinda weird, but it's like Jason Wingreen is trying to hard, while Temura Morrison just talks naturally. If someone would just show me the two clips with different voices, I hate to say it but I'd prefer the voice of Temura from the SE. (?)
Oh well, maybe that's just me.
Burdokva said:
On the original Boba Fett voice - based on YouTube clips, as I don't have any pre-2004 renditions of the Saga, besides my uncle's 97SE VHS, which I don't have at hand - it sounds a bit... inconsistent?
I don't mean the actual actor, but the "quality" of the voice. In some scenes it seem that it's filtered, as if through a microphone, in others it sounds muffled, like a guy in a suit.
Ady, would it be possible to check the audio you have and try to fix it with a more consistent microphone filter through all dialogue lines? A more even distortion due to the helmet, I mean, not changing the original actor or his voice pitch.
Sorry, this has bugged me for a while - I don' intend to start flame war about the actual voice actor used. Don't throw stones at me... :)
well first of all, welcome. Now Boba fett should never have been changed just to fit that bloody Prequel trilogy. I'm changing it back to how it was and how it should be. I really don't care if it cancels out any consistency with the PT and this has been discussed in quite a lot of detail over the years in this thread. Morrison sounds like he just can't be bothered saying the lines. Jason's portrayal was perfect . But i will be changing Jango's voice when he is wearing the helmet so there is no problem there. But i can see that there is going to be a lot of people saying exactly the same thing when ESB:R is out. Damn the PT...Damn them all to hell!!! lol
Now onto the quality of his voice as mentioned above. There is nothing wrong with it and his voice is consistent throughout. In the GOUT version for some reason his voice in just one line isn't filtered but it is in the '97 SE, which was based more on the 70mm mix, it is and the '97 mix is what i will be using so no problem there.
And Vaders shuttle is another addition that should never have been made. I completely disagree that the music fits perfectly. That score was butchered just to fit some shots that we never needed to see. And Vaders new line...GONE. "Bring my shuttle" was perfect and is the line that will be used in my edit. That one line eliminated the whole need to see Vader leaving in the shuttle.
Bobocop said:
gurgle1624 said:
I thought it would lend more credibility to the scene if we actually saw or at least heard why it wasn't friendly. I mean if someone introduced you to someone on the phone and then said I dont think he's very nice but gave no reason for not being nice wouldnt you be curious as to why that person isnt nice?
Watch that scene again and think how cool it would be to at least hear laser blasts, yells, static, then "it isnt friendly whatever it is".
I think it's perfectly logical as is. They're hiding from the Empire, and their lives may well depend on staying hidden, therefore any signs of technology or life on Hoth must be assumed a threat and treated as such until proven otherwise.
It's more like if your ex-girlfriend is chasing you with an axe, and you run to a friend's house to hide out for a while. Suddenly your friend comes into the room saying "hey, some chick called asking for you" and he hands you the phone. Your first reaction would likely be to think she's not friendly, whoever she is. (hopefully that makes sense and I'm not just crazy)
Bobocop said it perfectly
Jokke_r said:
Looking at a couple of the youtube clips of Adywans upcoming ESB Revisited, i feel that some of the removal of the blueish hue in the Hoth scenes done in the name of color correction are in error.
Especially in the outdoor scenes, some of the shadows in the snowy enviroment should have a blue tint, seeing as shadows are lit by indirect light which for the most part consists of atmospheric scattering and to some part light reflected from the snow in the enviroment, my 2c...
EDIT: Here's some of my army photos from couple years back to show what i'm talking about
Well you have only watched Youtube footage and most of the Hoth footage posted was from the first colour pass to remove the cyan tint. Those photos you posted aren't really a fair description of what the glacier would look like in daylight as neither one are in full daylight. check out these photos that were taken recently at the actual Hoth location in Finse.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/knokkel/4583145753/in/set-72157623994401080/
Hmm, not much blue there is there and certainly nothing like the 2004SE.
adywan said:
That score was butchered just to fit some shots that we never needed to see.
Speaking of altered music to fit a scene, I can't remember (and have checked the first post) what your stance is on the extended shot of the Slave 1 following the Falcon. Will you be keeping the SE version?
adywan said:
mfastx said:
I just noticed something while watching the original ESB, and I didn't think of it until now, but the original Boba Fett voice sounds like a well to do guy trying to sound intimidating. It's kinda weird, but it's like Jason Wingreen is trying to hard, while Temura Morrison just talks naturally. If someone would just show me the two clips with different voices, I hate to say it but I'd prefer the voice of Temura from the SE. (?)
Oh well, maybe that's just me.
well first of all, welcome. Now Boba fett should never have been changed just to fit that bloody Prequel trilogy. I'm changing it back to how it was and how it should be. I really don't care if it cancels out any consistency with the PT and this has been discussed in quite a lot of detail over the years in this thread. Morrison sounds like he just can't be bothered saying the lines. Jason's portrayal was perfect . But i will be changing Jango's voice when he is wearing the helmet so there is no problem there. But i can see that there is going to be a lot of people saying exactly the same thing when ESB:R is out. Damn the PT...Damn them all to hell!!! lol
And Vaders shuttle is another addition that should never have been made. I completely disagree that the music fits perfectly. That score was butchered just to fit some shots that we never needed to see. And Vaders new line...GONE. "Bring my shuttle" was perfect and is the line that will be used in my edit. That one line eliminated the whole need to see Vader leaving in the shuttle.
I just rewatched the ESB DVD and I agree that the music fits pretty bad. The recycled footage of him docking with the Executioner is the worst. The one shot that fits the music alright (which is what I was talking about) is the actual shot of his shuttle mid-flight, but I can see why you would want that to go. Plus I think that "bring my shuttle" is better as well.
Yeah about Boba Fett's voice.. when I first posted I didn't know that a lot of other people asked about that as well so sorry to "revisit" that topic. lol
adywan said:
doubleofive said:
Enigmas said:
Sooo, Facebook tells me Adywan's birthday is on Monday. Anything special planned?
he's probably going to go out and party. Why?
;-P
yep, off out with the kids ,their boyfriends and the wife and we're going to party hard :)
Well, then...Happy Birthday, Adywan!
I'll drink one for ya tonight! I'm thinking another viewing of ANH:R to celebrate too!
I do not fear the Dark Side as you do.
Happy Birthday, Adywan!
Happy Birthday ady! =)
Thanks guys.
Just a heads up. Look for a bit of a new ESB related thread starting tomorrow evening in the Preservation section ;)
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