i must've come in a little late...

I never understood what Lucas' weird obsession with ships landing was about, but it got damn annoying in the PT.

Ghost, my comments were in jest but if you really want to see Palpatine personally close the Senate in ANH why don't you suggest it on the After Ady thread? Somebody might agree with you and make a version where it happens and we might be surprised and come to love the idea.

Davnes007 said:

When Tarkin says that the Emperor has dissolved the senate, it brings to mind the opening scene of Star Trek: Nemesis...where the Romulan senate gets "dissolved" (in a manner of speaking).

 Hehe I remember that being joked about back when Nemesis came out. That film had some great stuff in it,  a pity it plods so much.

Ghost said:

Does anyone think that Vader's entrance in the Hoth battle is weak?  He comes out of nowhere.

I agree to a bit. I think this was discussed very briefly a long time ago in this thread, or in the "wish list" thread. One suggestion, as I remember it was that there would be a shot where the AT-ATs were followed by a landing shuttle or star destroyer emerging from the cloudy sky. (or is it just in my head?)

doubleofive said:

Darth Lars said:

Ghost said:

Does anyone think that Vader's entrance in the Hoth battle is weak?  He comes out of nowhere.

I agree to a bit. I think this was discussed very briefly a long time ago in this thread, or in the "wish list" thread. One suggestion, as I remember it was that there would be a shot where the AT-ATs were followed by a landing shuttle or star destroyer emerging from the cloudy sky. (or is it just in my head?)

We did discuss it on one of the threads, but any addition would destroy the pacing and is really unnecessary, much like the "how did Vader get back to his Star Destroyer, show us his ship landing George!" scene in the SE.

What he said. Ibid.

Why the hell should Vader need an "entrance" in that scene? He's already taking part in the sequence of events, it's not like he's a surprise appearance. Sheesh, who comes up with these ideas?

Darth Venal said:

doubleofive said:

Darth Lars said:

Ghost said:

Does anyone think that Vader's entrance in the Hoth battle is weak?  He comes out of nowhere.

I agree to a bit. I think this was discussed very briefly a long time ago in this thread, or in the "wish list" thread. One suggestion, as I remember it was that there would be a shot where the AT-ATs were followed by a landing shuttle or star destroyer emerging from the cloudy sky. (or is it just in my head?)

We did discuss it on one of the threads, but any addition would destroy the pacing and is really unnecessary, much like the "how did Vader get back to his Star Destroyer, show us his ship landing George!" scene in the SE.

What he said. Ibid.

Why the hell should Vader need an "entrance" in that scene? He's already taking part in the sequence of events, it's not like he's a surprise appearance. Sheesh, who comes up with these ideas?

His name is Mr. Lucas and he attempted to set the redundancy record for most consecutive ship landing platform shots in a movie trilogy for all-time in the prequels. I swear to the energy field surrounding all living things there is a sequence in Revenge of the Sith that goes from one ship landing scene to a scene that also ends in a ship landing scene.

As for the "he needs a better entrance" idea, he already has an entrance and it's called the first of the movie. That's what an ENTRANCE is. And nothing will surpass his first appearance in ANH anyway. But his coming into the base on Hoth is actually bad ass with those snowtroopers and he stalks in like he's in a rush. It's cool as is.

shanerjedi said:

Darth Venal said:

doubleofive said:

Does anyone think that Vader's entrance in the Hoth battle is weak?  He comes out of nowhere.

Why the hell should Vader need an "entrance" in that scene? He's already taking part in the sequence of events, it's not like he's a surprise appearance. Sheesh, who comes up with these ideas?

 

As for the "he needs a better entrance" idea, he already has an entrance and it's called the first of the movie. That's what an ENTRANCE is. And nothing will surpass his first appearance in ANH anyway. But his coming into the base on Hoth is actually bad ass with those snowtroopers and he stalks in like he's in a rush. It's cool as is.

 

 No no no.

What Vader needs is a GOOD entrance. I reccomend that the camera shoots one of Hoth's ice-walls, which then explodes outward. As the dust settles, we see an extreme closeup of Vader's glove, which ignites his lightsaber,  as the camera tracks backwards, several more explosions happen until finally we see a long shot of Vader, when suddenly two pillars of flame erupt out of the ground behind him before he starts walking forward. As he takes his first step, six previously unseen Imperial Officers flank him, and they all suddenly die from Force Choking, collapsing in front of him like a macabre red-carpet.

That would be a good entrance.

Vader marching around Hoth is much more dramatic than his scenes on the Blockade Runner in ANH.

The one thing I've never liked (even when I was ten)and I've mentioned it before is when Vader's cape gets caught behind his arm armour. 

It's a little thing but Vader is always in my mind this menacing black triangle, a stomping dark pyramid of power and for a few seconds he loses that sinister symmetry.

It's like the red room on the Death Star in ANH one of those niggly moments that spoil the mood for me.

I'm possibly the only person effected by this most strange of obsessions and I'm not sure if it could be fixed if anybody else would want it to be fixed (or indeed acknowledge that altering it would be a fix).

I'm going over into the kitchen for a bit and make sure no forks have gotten into the knife drawer again....

Iv sent you that CG animation you asked for that you needed for your film to your hotmail account

Is this supposed to be confidential.  You didn't need to post that, it has me curious now.

Second, I don't think his entrance is weak, but it could and should be better considering his importance and the importance of the battle. When he walks in, I don't like how we can't see him that well because he has to push everything out of his way in a crowded room.

Sky is just dropping us a few crumbs on his way to the master's table.

It's always nice to get a little reminder that the plates are moving into position for our banquet next year.

TheBoost said:

shanerjedi said:

Darth Venal said:

doubleofive said:

Does anyone think that Vader's entrance in the Hoth battle is weak?  He comes out of nowhere.

Why the hell should Vader need an "entrance" in that scene? He's already taking part in the sequence of events, it's not like he's a surprise appearance. Sheesh, who comes up with these ideas?

 

As for the "he needs a better entrance" idea, he already has an entrance and it's called the first of the movie. That's what an ENTRANCE is. And nothing will surpass his first appearance in ANH anyway. But his coming into the base on Hoth is actually bad ass with those snowtroopers and he stalks in like he's in a rush. It's cool as is.

 

 No no no.

What Vader needs is a GOOD entrance. I reccomend that the camera shoots one of Hoth's ice-walls, which then explodes outward. As the dust settles, we see an extreme closeup of Vader's glove, which ignites his lightsaber,  as the camera tracks backwards, several more explosions happen until finally we see a long shot of Vader, when suddenly two pillars of flame erupt out of the ground behind him before he starts walking forward. As he takes his first step, six previously unseen Imperial Officers flank him, and they all suddenly die from Force Choking, collapsing in front of him like a macabre red-carpet.

That would be a good entrance.

 

 

Yeah, and it would be called Star Wars-Lord of the Dance.

I think it was the scary Lord Of The Dance that was being referred to which would make Vader's entrance more like this :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqmGWf21IE8