STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 334

adywan said:

don't forget you are just seeing a single frame and working with moving footage is a lot different than being able to work on a still image. there are so many factors that have to go into the video work. i also have to try and keep each individual shot in a sequence match. so changing contrast, backgrounds and colours in one shot may not work for the other shots. its all about balance.

 Spoken like a true Master Ady, it's true, sometimes a single frame may not look that good, but in the moving sequence of videos it all falls  in place, seen in a few movies (other than star wars), certain frames look horrible in fram-by-frame but in the 24fps rate you see a nice video....

Nice Clip there Ady!

-Angel

doubleofive said:

For those wondering, here is what Ady has to contend with when it comes to The Last Three Walkers:

Also notice the wildly varied backgrounds.

Makes sense that more than one would be brought down by tripping them, and they probably would fall in similar ways.

You nailed it right in the head with that one, the Hoth battle has as many incosistencies and continuity failures as ANH's last battle....thanks LFL

The legs aren't that different, it's the head.  The ESB one has a very sloped forehead, following the design of the AT-AT head, where the ROTJ one is more square.

adywan said:

Monroville said:

I wish you made it more cloudy and less open bright sky -

Monroville said:

There is nothing saying you can't redo the skyline and make it clearer.

well you totally contradicted yourself about the sky here Monroville. As i've said i'm not changing anything about the new shot. it works perfectly well for me. The brightness matches the other shots in the sequence whereas before , as i have said already, the original shot looked stormy. I guess there is only one way to settle this as you need to see it in motion and in context with the rest of the sequence. I'm wondering just how many are still comparing the colouring with the 2004 shots instead of my colour corrected version?

IN MOTION

please don't post this clip on youtube because it isn't finished. ignore the first shot because that's just the colour corrected version and i haven't begun work on this yet

 

Okay, this is getting very frustrating. 

The first comment is on the EMPIRE:R image itself, as in the cloudier sky can be implemented per my prior message with the fog bank/storm that the AT-ATs are first seen with the binocs. 

The second comment is - if you want to do the clear skies, you can make the skies in the original shot clearer and add an AT-AT on the left, otherwise making the shot unmodified (other than color correction).

Now:
after watching the clip, it does come off better in motion, but there is still something that seems a little off.  I don't know if it is the closeness of the AT-ATs, the lighting or something with how the ground doesn't seem to recede far enough for the mountains to be "mountains".   Maybe if the mountains were more grey or a faded blue due to atmospheric haze - something to distinguish them from the ground below the AT-ATs so it doesn't look like they're right behind them.

Now I also understand that this is your show.  I'm just voicing my concern being that one of the things that really put me off the Prequels was just how everything was filmed.  it seems that everything since the mid-90's has this uniform lighted look (from foreground to background), with the exception of horror movies, which go the complete opposite direction and now they all look like SEVEN.

ImperialFighter said:

 

I'm really curious about how this particular shot might be tweaked now...

Good point. I think it would be fun/funny if we saw the ion cannon shoot at a lower angle and hit an AT-AT in the side. Could work for that one that topples sideways. Sure, it's just glorified electricity, but against something 'small' like an AT-AT, I would imagine it could pack quite a punch.

I think we'll nitpick everything released from here on out to the final release of the film! :)

We've dissected just about everything else, so what else is there to do? ;)  Though it would be nice to digest the image for a while before blowing it apart with "why not do it this way" posts....

I DO like the new shot and it probably is just because I'm so used to the old material that it stands out as it does for me, but what're you gonna do?  I by no means hate the shot or have any suggestions on how to tweak it.  It's just...different...and that's quite alright by me!  Taken with the rest of the sequence, continuity is preserved shot to shot and that is a great thing indeed.  In the context of the entire film, shots before and after this one will most likely look amazing as usual and make the whole even better than the small snippets.

Looking forward to next week's pic!

Tobar said:

The other day I caught an episode of the show 100 Places to See Before You Die and it was an episode about Alaska. At one point they flew a helicopter to the top of a giant glacier and while they were up there it was nothing but snow and mountains. The thing was though that the mountains looked like they were a short walking distance away but in fact were miles and miles away. The illusion was caused by the clear air and snow.

[indirectly] Reminds me of one time I was driving down a road this winter where there were open fields and the snow was blowing so hard...and it felt like I wasn't even moving. It's was kinda scary, actually.

Anyway, those are some great Wampa pics you linked to. :)

Damn good job adywan. I have always bitched about the dreary look of the battle of hoth. Way to pwn that walker LOL.

Thanx Ady for that new footage.