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HotRod said:

surely you must know that little detail has always been in the film.

Hey, it took you to point out the grain of sand and the snowflake! ;)

wow! i don't think any of us expected this. that asteroid field looks awesome.

one thing, playing at full speed i wouldn't have noticed, but looking frame by frame did think...
is the rear tie pilot a closet rebel?
coz he seems to be trying to shoot his wingmates in the up the exhaust just before he gets mashed

I see we'll still arguing about the Hoth battle.

Personally, I've always liked the idea of more going on in orbit and on the planet surface.

It didn't seem like the rebel losses were substantial enough. I've always felt it needed more snowspeeders taken out along more rebels being shot down in the snow.

But what bothers me the most is no X-Wings or Rebel Transports shot down in space. That was ridiculous.

Add up the dead snowspeeder pilots and the few dead ground troops and it seems like the rebels lost ten guys - maximum. Now I know we don't see everything going on, but for a movie like this, well, that's a copout. One of the main tenets of filmmaking is show, don't tell.

Now I know we see Adywan's talent and we hope for more, but the truth is that he has already succeeded by leaps and bounds. We just have to accept that there is only so much a dedicated fan can do. He doesn't have a limitless budget or ILM's equipment behind him.

Personally, I'm coming close to total acceptance that there are things that perhaps a majority of us can agree on which we'll never get.

Believe me when I say that I don't want to go on a negative Lucas rant, but since I've been here, and since I've seen Adywan's work on ANH-R, well, I just wish Lucas cared 1/1,000,000,000th as much.

Perhaps then....

Thanks for the comment guys.

There one thing i need to say about the clip though. The sound track is only temp, as with all my preview clips. These are only posted to show the visuals. The audio won't even be started until the video is completely finished. So the sound of the TIE lasers and their volume isn't a problem.

Monroville,  the TIE lasers in ESB seem to take a completely different firing pattern to that of ANH. IN ANH the firing pattern was very fast but if you check out the few times that the TIE's fire in ESB they are a slower paced rate. The new TIE lasers i have added are actually footage taken from elsewhere in ESB & rotoscoped into the footage so the firing pace is the same but sometimes looped / shortened  due to length.  The clips i post are all NTSC so the sound is the correct speed and the lasers in the clip are the same sound fx  i used for ANH:R

I'll try and answer all other things once i get a chance to read everything later.

Ripplin said:

HotRod said:

surely you must know that little detail has always been in the film.

Hey, it took you to point out the grain of sand and the snowflake! ;)

 

That is very true my friend.

ImperialFighter said:

ImperialFighter said:

Monroville said:

The shots are correct, it just seems that the bridge shot needs to be flipped.  If you notice right after the bridge shot, Needa's SD (the one in the middle) is making evasive manuevering and heading downwards, while the SD on the left (and his right) is heading upwards so that they will miss each other.  Regardless, the SD that is about to hit Needa is on Needa's right, not left.

 Yes, I reckon now that the single Stardestroyer could have just 'veered' towards the one on it's RIGHT-hand side in the intervening cut (although it seems to have done it rather quickly!), and I'm agreeing that the 'interior' shot would be the easiest to 'flip' or alter.  You are right that it does indeed seem that the single Stardestroyer is slightly lower than the other 2, as it first approaches, and the Millennium Falcon initially dives downwards.

Screenshots will be helpful for this one.

 

 

Monroville, having had a proper look at this whole sequence now, there are a few comments I'd like to make on it all, and so I'm going to ask doubleofive to give me the specific shots I need, when he can. 

But just to say for now, that I now think we were both wrong, and that the 'interior' shot of Captain Needa's Stardestroyer 'Avenger' is probably okay the way round it is currently, and doesn't need 'flipping' after all....  I'll explain why eventually, as well as suggesting a couple of 'alternative' tweaks that would also work, where that particular moment is concerned. 

 

Joshua_Blue, I always look on it as Vader merely 'swiping' at Luke just enough to 'unbalance' him, and make him have to move backwards a little, so that he'll fall into the carbon freeze opening....which he does.

 

I have the movie in my DVD-ROM drive and am about to take screenshots.  I was going to take some of the Star Destroyers, but I'll wait then. :-)

ImperialFighter said:

ImperialFighter said:

Just a tiny, somewhat insignificant thing in the scheme of things really, but on the SE's the very front of the 'prongs' of the Millennium Falcon seemed a little dodgy the way they were matted against the large asteroid that enters the left of the frame as it passes against it in the 'side-on' banking shot....as is the actual cockpit too, when seen against this big asteroid.  Any chance of a tidy-up Ady?  It's so brief, it's only noticeable with 'freeze-framing', so no biggie though. 

 

Just ignore this recent particular comment please, as it really is a nit-pick TOO far, lol.   

 

You my friend, are now crowned the King among nerds..

Imperial Fighter - King Nerd!!!

ImperialFighter said:

I'm happy to accept that title graciously, where these OT edits are concerned, lol. 

Ha Ha...It's all yours dude!!

adywan said:

Thanks for the comment guys.

There one thing i need to say about the clip though. The sound track is only temp, as with all my preview clips. These are only posted to show the visuals. The audio won't even be started until the video is completely finished. So the sound of the TIE lasers and their volume isn't a problem.

Monroville,  the TIE lasers in ESB seem to take a completely different firing pattern to that of ANH. IN ANH the firing pattern was very fast but if you check out the few times that the TIE's fire in ESB they are a slower paced rate. The new TIE lasers i have added are actually footage taken from elsewhere in ESB & rotoscoped into the footage so the firing pace is the same but sometimes looped / shortened  due to length.  The clips i post are all NTSC so the sound is the correct speed and the lasers in the clip are the same sound fx  i used for ANH:R

I'll try and answer all other things once i get a chance to read everything later.

That all may be true, but it is still off sounding at the least.  Again, it is not as if I posted a comment without anything to judge it by.  My previous message contained links to show exactly what I was talking about, one of which being the previous scene with the TIEs chasing the Falcon when the 3 Star Destroyers tried to corner it.  In that segment, the TIE laser fire is a bit faster and has the distinct laser fire sound.  All you have to do is click on the link and watch it and compare to your own to see and hear exactly what I am talking about.

Besides, to compare this with the extra AT-AT situation, wasn't the whole idea NOT to add things for the simple sake of adding them, especially if they were distracting?  If the red cockpit is going to be taken out, as well as the extra AT-ATs, then why add extra laser fire when there wasn't any especially if it distracts from what was already there (some may argue with me, but it wasn't there originally and that slow laser fire and off sound effects stand out too much to the point that it distracts from the scene to me)?  And regardless of whatever the pitch of the laserfire is in EMPIRE, what would look and sound best for the scene?

Here are some clips from EMPIRE to compare with your asteroid sequence:
just compare this scene (visuals and sound effects): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTp8mKFxmbg&feature=related

with this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2CRs8PAhzg

the laserfire in the first clip may be slower than in ANH, but the sound FX in your clip is still off even compared to the first clip above (especially at 0:41 in the extended clip - maybe its just that one TIE with the Da--da--DA--da sound FX and the missing chigga/chigga/ sound FX, which you can also hear at 3:01 on the first clip)

Monroville, i can't understand why you are still saying that the TIE laser sound Fx sound off. You have even  quoted the post where i did say that the audio is a temp track. i only added the sound of the TIE lasers because it would have looked odd if i didn't, with the new lasers added. Also you should look more closely at the clip you mentioned. There are several fighters firing at once but each individual TIE fighter isn't firing at the pace they did in ANH. They are more singular blasts from each fighter rather than repetitive ones in ANH. How can the laser fire be too slow when its a sequence taken from a different part of the movie & matted over the original footage? wouldn't that make the original TIE lasers too slow?

Now that I'm thinking of it, do you think maybe the TIEs fired at a faster rate in ANH because of the Falcon's guns? It matched their intensity, anyway. It really is a big contrast in speed/rate between ANH and ESB.

nevermind.......

They fired at the Falcon when it escaped the DS in ANH too, even though they wanted it to get away.

Nemesis_Enforcer said:

Hey Ady,

 

I'm somewhat of a lurker.  I just watched your latest clips and they are awesome.  I can't wait to see more.

 

I have full faith in what ever choices/changes you make to this.  ANH:R is now also cannon in my book.  I will watch that instead of my official dvd.

Exactly.