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ImperialFighter said:

ImperialFighter said:

Can you please do something with the distractingly large, unnatural (hey it's ALL unnatural I know!) 'orange glow' that occurs when a very small asteroid collides into the large 'crater' of the huge 'potato-shaped' asteroid, just after Han replies to C3PO, 'Never tell me the odds'.

Perhaps either put in some 'sparking debris' on it's impact, or get rid of the small asteroid, it's shadow, and subsequent 'orange glow' altogether! Either way would be preferable to what is there at the moment. Thanks.

Adywan - The 'glowing' asteroid thing that Monroville and others commented on recently was something I mentioned way back on page 31 of this thread. 

While it's not a big deal, it's something bigger than some of the subtler things you've attended to previously, and seems an over-the-top effect for such a small asteroid impact into the bigger one....  Maybe you could consider even 'toning' the resulting explosion down a tad, or make the tiny asteroid a little bigger....

Just a last thought on that.

My vote is for the larger asteroid to EXPLODE in an expanded scene where we see two slugs looking sadly towards the incoming shockwave and the pieces of the asteroid narrowly avoid slamming against a passing TIE.

Or not.

One last thing,

ImperialFighter has a point; in fact, the same one I made after him (sorry about that IF): just until recently, it just seemed like the asteroid "farted" on its own. 

I would either get rid of the flash (which I know you stated you would not do) or make the smaller asteroid causing it bigger so people can see what is causing the explosion, as well as make the explosion more of a fireball + debris like all of the other asteroid collisions as opposed to a flash.  That way it would be more consistent with the rest of the asteroid chase sequence (regardless of added TIEs, chasing space slugs or whatnot).

A general rule of thumb in the visual effects industry - which is, sadly, becoming more and more ignored these days - is that their work is, first and foremost, supposed to enhance the story, not overshadow it.  Changing the walkers' laser bolts to green would be a careless disregard of this philosophy, not to mentions a minor - yet huge at the same time - disregard of established cannon.  The point is that just because something can be done, does not mean it should (i.e. PT)

You guys are taking this astroid think waaaaayyyy too seriuosly lol Ady's right it's fine as it is, this is how George must have lost his marbles... lol

To Rhikter

Whatever you're doing (and I'm assuming copy paste from something like word) please stop.

There is a bug on these forums that's stops anybody reading anything beyond your posts. It's a IE issue, seems to be fine with firefox, but not everyone uses firefox so that's not a problem solver.

There's a whole section in the off topic about this issue.

It's a real pain in the arse.

I can't even tell if this post is ok or not....

Edited my original post hoping to fix that. It work?

I just finished watching the new color correction footage.  It's amazing how just adjusting the tint can affect the aura of an environment.  Good work adywan.  Was the work in this particular clip achieved by just adding a filter over the entire clip or did you have to make sure everything was balanced from shot to shot?

Side Note:  I noticed, in the scene "We've Spotted Imperial Walkers," that R2's light still doesn't really switch from one color to the next appropriately.  Really, he still has that sort of "spinning" light source that he had in ANH.  It is just brighter and is turns faster her in ESB instead of making a seamless transition like in the PT.  However, it's extremely minor ,and I was actually making a point to look at his light at the time.  Anyone who's not looking for it will probably not notice.  I'm sure you'll decide the best way to handle that.

ChainsawAsh said:

Before I say this, I just want to point out that I know it's impossible to do.  I just want to see if this bugs anyone else as much as it bugs me.

Having said that, I'd very much like to see C-3PO's "stomach" wiring be made consistent throughout all 3 films.  It's not such a dramatic change from ANH to ESB, but then in ROTJ it's suddenly gold and silver straight lines as opposed to actual wires.  WTF?  That's something that bothered me when I first saw the movies when I was 6.  I could never understand why they'd make such a dramatic change.  That was before I knew of several other changes that had been made throughout the trilogy, though, like Vader's suit and lightsaber hilt.  It still doesn't make any of those changes make sense to me.

With all the drastic character redesigns in RotJ, we'd be better off just scrapping the whole thing, even if you don't really notice them.  It took me a while to notice that Chewie was different, but I've never noticed 3P0.  Of course, now I will.  Which is the problem with looking at these movies too hard.  Eventually the errant snowflakes/sand/twig is all you see...

I think it's perfectly reasonable to suspect that 3PO had some hardware upgrades in between the films.  Take into account how old he really is and how many times the poor fellow has been blown to pieces.  Also, I think that the profile on Vader at Wookiepedia references him making upgrades to his saber hilt over time.

From the Wookiepedia profile on Anakin Skywalker:

"After suffering his grievous wounds on Mustafar, Vader created a new lightsaber. Vader apparently modified this lightsaber over time."

I have noticed that about Chewie as well.  Obviously, a new costume was made for ROTS, but as far as the OT goes there is definitely something different each time.  I just can't quite put my finger on it.  I think it has something to do with the hair being more untamed.

Yeah, his hair is pretty much slicked back in ANH, and it gets progressively wilder through the next two movies, with the most noticeable variant being ROTJ. Makes sense, I guess; hair grows, right? And I can't see the rebellion footing the bill for Chewie's visits to the salon.

Personally, I've always preferred the ROTJ chewie suit...

Akwat Kbrana said:

Personally, I've always preferred the ROTJ chewie suit...

Yeah, me too. He always looks cool, but I particularly dig the surfer part.

P.S. Just found this funny pic:

Rhikter said:

I think it's perfectly reasonable to suspect that 3PO had some hardware upgrades in between the films.  Take into account how old he really is and how many times the poor fellow has been blown to pieces.

I never had a problem with 3P0's mid section being straight rods and wires in ROTJ either.  If anything, it makes perfect sense.  That was one of the main points he was severed at when he got blasted back on Cloud City, so it makes sense that it in putting him back together, it was easier to just rip out all the straggly wires and start fresh.  Yeah, R2 patched him back together in the Falcon during the escape, but that was just that - a patch job.  Luke would probably have gone back later to do some more work on him.

Having watched the latest clip, what are your thoughts on the "the first transport is away" announcement, Ady? Keep it as in the clip, or change it? I know there were different versions recorded.

... Is there something wrong with it as is?

Rhikter said:

... Is there something wrong with it as is?

Personally, I don't think he sounds excited enough.  Its just a short statement, then its done.  How professional can you get, instead of being a rag-tag group of Rebels.  Same with "Imperial troops have entered the base.  Imperial troops have--"  I vote for different versions, whether from an alternate film mix, the radio drama, or a cameo by one of us. ;-)

I didn't say anything about it being wrong, did I? I just asked that, since there are different versions, will he use that one or another. ;)

Edit: In the time it took me to type that, 005 answered with some nice specifics. :) I agree about the excitement factor. They're not Vulcans; they get excited about things, and there are versions that sound a little more...emotive.

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just for those who want to see an AT-AT shooting green

for some reason couldn't get it to appear in preview so posted link as well

incidently i'm pretty good with photoshop - but this colour change was a bitch
the filter that changes the red to green also changes blue to red
so where the green of the red of the laser meets the blue of the sky the feathering on the mask is crazily hard to get right
and to do the same on a moving target would certainly drive me nuts - so i think ady's decision to leave alone is a sensible one

i actually ended up wiping the lasers out and redrawing them from scratch

Oh, I didn't know there were different versions.  I don't have a problem with the current versions, but I do understand where doubleofive is coming from.  I would like to, at least, hear an early cut of the changes (if adywan decide to make any) so that we can chime in with our 2 cents before they go into the final cut.

professa adyfan said:

just for those who want to see an AT-AT shooting green

for some reason couldn't get it to appear in preview so posted link as well

incidently i'm pretty good with photoshop - but this colour change was a bitch
the filter that changes the red to green also changes blue to red
so where the green of the red of the laser meets the blue of the sky the feathering on the mask is crazily hard to get right
and to do the same on a moving target would certainly drive me nuts - so i think ady's decision to leave alone is a sensible one

i actually ended up wiping the lasers out and redrawing them from scratch

Nice going!  I wanted to take pretty much that same shot and try my hand at the green, but I didn't have the time.

I really don't think the red/green lasers is that big of a deal, but it is an option since Ady is (probably) going to trace over every bolt again anyway.  But if the ships and walkers shoot green, why do all the blasters shoot the same color, especially since Clones shot a different color than Battle Droids in the PT?  Its a slippery slope, it seems, a slope that if Ady was going to start, would have started it in ANHR.

Ripplin said:

I didn't say anything about it being wrong, did I? I just asked that, since there are different versions, will he use that one or another. ;)

Edit: In the time it took me to type that, 005 answered with some nice specifics. :) I agree about the excitement factor. They're not Vulcans; they get excited about things, and there are versions that sound a little more...emotive.

"Fascinating.  It seems that Imperial troops have entered the base.  It would be logical to retreat."