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And surely the Heroes would have had an open-top Bus tour of all the capital cities of the major planets? Tickertape parades, keys to cities handed over (well, alright, peace globes), medals given out (Chewies tally to DOUBLE), and pardons written (Han is a fugitive for murder after all).

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vbangle said:

I agree with you...its just one more GL SE addition that over explains something that didn't need further explanation....it's almost like George thinks the SW fans are fucking stupid and need every little concept spelled out for them, otherwise we might not get that at the same time that the rebels were celebrating on Endor that the rest of the Galaxy was joyous as well.....Fucking George, you the one who's clueless....

 

i dunno. i guess it's a matter of opinion and to a certain extent how you feel about george's right to mess with the films. i personally am torn between "you souldnt mess with a film once it's finished george!" and "this epic trilogy ends with a teddy bear picknick?...really... i mean yub nub?!"

however, as we're in the Adywan thread, i think we can all assume that "you shouldnt mess with a film once it's finished" has taken a back seat.

the celebrating 'epilogue' as someone rightly described it feels more like a fitting ending. it strikes a more impressive tone to the ending of a galaxy wide dictatorship. we still see the teddy ewoks having their shindig so we still see the personal side of the celebration.

i do however agree with your "SE addition that over explains something" critique in regard to the wampa scene. less was definately more in that part.
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count_doodie said:
vbangle said:

I agree with you...its just one more GL SE addition that over explains something that didn't need further explanation....it's almost like George thinks the SW fans are fucking stupid and need every little concept spelled out for them, otherwise we might not get that at the same time that the rebels were celebrating on Endor that the rest of the Galaxy was joyous as well.....Fucking George, you the one who's clueless....

 

i dunno. i guess it's a matter of opinion and to a certain extent how you feel about george's right to mess with the films. i personally am torn between "you souldnt mess with a film once it's finished george!" and "this epic trilogy ends with a teddy bear picknick?...really... i mean yub nub?!"

however, as we're in the Adywan thread, i think we can all assume that "you shouldnt mess with a film once it's finished" has taken a back seat.

the celebrating 'epilogue' as someone rightly described it feels more like a fitting ending. it strikes a more impressive tone to the ending of a galaxy wide dictatorship. we still see the teddy ewoks having their shindig so we still see the personal side of the celebration.

i do however agree with your "SE addition that over explains something" critique in regard to the wampa scene. less was definately more in that part.
-doodie

Ep VI's ending isn't about a teddy bear picnic. "The ending" is the revelation that even though Anakin Skywalker had turned to the Dark Side, becoming the epitome of evil, he was still able to be redeemed....in the end there was still good left in him...enough to save him.

Also, I don't necessarily buy into the notion that the galaxy was saved and set free at the end of ROTJ. The Empire is more than just the Emperor and his side kick Darth Vader. There would still be the massive Empire fleet to content with, as well the countless commanders and such that would be scrambling to fill the void left by death of both the Emperor and Darth Vader. 

The entire Empire government, governing countless worlds through out the galaxy, just lays down and goes away without a fight? Considering they still have the bulk of the fleet left in tact....I don't buy it.

No. To me, the original ending, which was more of an open-ended ending made more sense. Are the rebels happy that the "head" of the empire has been chopped off? You bet. It gives a lot of new reasons to hope for the future. For the first time in a long time there is once a balance to the force. Luke is a Jedi Master. But there is still work to do to free the ENTIRE GALAXY, and defeat the ENTIRE EMPIRE FLEET. The SE ending feels more like the last half of ROTS where GL tries to wrap up every little mystery and question about what and where everybody came from...the SE ending to ROTJ felt forced to me...that's all.

And oh yeah...one more thing. Lucas, as if to add insult to injury, just had to put a Jarjar screaming "wesa free" in there...didn't he...what an asshole.

 

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I agree with the above comments, although I believe Ady mentioned elsewhere he'll keep the celebartions.  The issues I have with the new ending have already been covered - and, as well as those, it knocks certain EU (Truce at Bakura?) out of the loop.  Not that the movies need to be changed to match the EU, but... well, take mine and others thoughts as well.

And if it is kept, please just remove the Naboo scene.  The celebration flows much better without it.

 

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bkev said:

the Naboo scene.  The celebration flows much better without it.

 

 

 It's not so much that Naboo erks me...it's that we see Tatoonie.

I thought the empire didn't mess with that "old rock"? (of course except to find the droids)

I hope there's something new that can be done about the ending...

I *do* hate the last Star Wars movie ending with the Teddy bear picnic...

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JediMasterFisher said:

I hate the yub yub ending. The SE is way better. The music is great and we see more which is needed.

Let me guess your under 20, right? Most young people love the 04' SE DVDs, most 40+ who remember the OUT as it was when we saw it IN PERSON, AT THE THEATER, prefer the OUT more. Or at least certain parts of it more....like the original ROTJ ending...

The SE music is LAME. It doesn't even keep to the tempo the people and ewoks are dancing to.

But this is all a mute argument. I respect Ady's decisions and choices for HIS edit....this is just one I don't happen to agree with...

However, the improvements to picture quality and getting rid of the 04 SE slave backup singers will more than make up for it....

 

 

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I'm 20, but I first saw and fell in love with the OOT, and despise many of George's changes (although I agree with Ady on the ones he kept), but the ROTJ ending music ALWAYS made me cringe. The SE version isn't wonderful but it was a vast improvement.

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"Ya-na na na naaaaaaaaaa!..." segueing perfectly into the SW Anthem was a goosepimple moment for me, and still is. The new music didn't satisfy me at all.

Plus, the without the GOUT ending there would BE no EU. If everything was wrapped up nicely with the popping of a giant quaffle, then I wouldn't be writing "The Rise of Darth Scourge"!  OK, a cheap plug and actually my story has nothing whatever to do with the classic characters, but my inspiration came from the same stock that all the other EU writers did.

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Well, say what you want about the Celebration ending to ROTJ, but I would have preferred to see a Hoth celebration with Wampa's dancing and a Tauntan Feast ;)

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vbangle said:

Ep VI's ending isn't about a teddy bear picnic. "The ending" is the revelation that even though Anakin Skywalker had turned to the Dark Side, becoming the epitome of evil, he was still able to be redeemed....in the end there was still good left in him...enough to save him.


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And oh yeah...one more thing. Lucas, as if to add insult to injury, just had to put a Jarjar screaming "wesa free" in there...didn't he...what an asshole.

 

cheers for recapping what happened to anakin skywalker. did you assume that when i mentioned the teddy bear picnic i had infact forgotten the main arc of the trilogy? well after all i am only 21.
-doodie

edit. i do actually agree that the miscellaneous gungun shouting wesa free was lucas giving some of us the middle finger.

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sketchrob said:

Well, say what you want about the Celebration ending to ROTJ, but I would have preferred to see a Hoth celebration with Wampa's dancing and a Tauntan Feast ;)

Be careful what you wish for ;)

There's still time before the eventual Blu-Ray release for them to add Kamino, Mustafar, Dagobah, Hoth, Geonosis, Kashyyk, The Worm in his Asteroid, and maybe even a couple people camping on the debris of Alderaan to the ending celebration.

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Bobocop said:
sketchrob said:

Well, say what you want about the Celebration ending to ROTJ, but I would have preferred to see a Hoth celebration with Wampa's dancing and a Tauntan Feast ;)

Be careful what you wish for ;)

There's still time before the eventual Blu-Ray release for them to add Kamino, Mustafar, Dagobah, Hoth, Geonosis, Kashyyk, The Worm in his Asteroid, and maybe even a couple people camping on the debris of Alderaan to the ending celebration.

Hey, I see a couple of ESB references in there! It's been a while...y'know, considering the subject of this thread and all. ;)

Seriously, though, "weesa free": innocent addition, or an 'in your face' moment from Lucas? Haha.

 

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I liked all of the end celebration except when they go "wesa free" and when they show Tatooine.

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Kurgan said:

Well, see you all in a year!

 

 Why a year?

 

Because that's how long Adywan estimated it was going to take to finish this (look back a page or two)... which incidentally would make this project much shorter than ANH:R!

 

But who knows... with sufficient hardware failures and enough suggestions for changes, we might be able to stretch it out to two... ;) (j/k)

 

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bkev said:

the Naboo scene.  The celebration flows much better without it.

 

 

 It's not so much that Naboo erks me...it's that we see Tatoonie.

I thought the empire didn't mess with that "old rock"? (of course except to find the droids)

I hope there's something new that can be done about the ending...

I *do* hate the last Star Wars movie ending with the Teddy bear picnic...

 

I agree about the Tattooine celebration.  That should be excised for that exact reason.

While I'm not a giant fan of the "Yub Nub," I also don't like the new music.

Sadly, I really have no suggestions of my own here (probably because it's 1:30 AM and I'm still a little drunk), but I'm sure Ady's judgment will be more than adequate.

Now back to ESB ... about that snowflake on Chewie's foot ...

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All this talk of the end of ROTJ should go in the "ESB and ROTJ wishlist" thread.  Or someone start a "Return Of The Jedi: Revisited" thread now and keep it alive until Ady starts on ROTJ:R sometime in 2010.

 

Can we get back onto "Empire" for the time being?

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Ziz said:

All this talk of the end of ROTJ should go in the "ESB and ROTJ wishlist" thread.  Or someone start a "Return Of The Jedi: Revisited" thread now and keep it alive until Ady starts on ROTJ:R sometime in 2010.

 

Can we get back onto "Empire" for the time being?

 

 I heartily agree!

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ChainsawAsh said:
Now back to ESB ... about that snowflake on Chewie's foot ...

 

 What snowflake?

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Okay..can we get another kiss scene with Luke and Leia..maybe modernize it up a bit. Maybe cgi some tongues, maybe Leia sucking on Lukes tongue or some thing.. Leia could be Lukes little snow bunny, they could laugh and play on Hoth, have snow fights, maybe build a snow man or roll around in the snow like Padme and Anakin do in the field http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/1/1c/Leia_luke_kiss.jpg/375px-Leia_luke_kiss.jpg another scene that was cut of Luke and Leia kissing?
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Darth Yub Nub said:Okay..can we get another kiss scene with Luke and Leia..maybe modernize it up a bit. Maybe cgi some tongues, maybe Leia sucking on Lukes tongue or some thing.. Leia could be Lukes little snow bunny, they could laugh and play on Hoth, have snow fights, maybe build a snow man or roll around in the snow like Padme and Anakin do in the field http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/1/1c/Leia_luke_kiss.jpg/375px-Leia_luke_kiss.jpg another scene that was cut of Luke and Leia kissing?

 

You're not very funny.

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vbangle said:
Darth Yub Nub said:Okay..can we get another kiss scene with Luke and Leia..maybe modernize it up a bit. Maybe cgi some tongues, maybe Leia sucking on Lukes tongue or some thing.. Leia could be Lukes little snow bunny, they could laugh and play on Hoth, have snow fights, maybe build a snow man or roll around in the snow like Padme and Anakin do in the field http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/1/1c/Leia_luke_kiss.jpg/375px-Leia_luke_kiss.jpg another scene that was cut of Luke and Leia kissing?

 

You're not very funny.

We really need a [sarcasm] tag around here for times like this.

 

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I thought it was hilarious...

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Steering things somewhat back on topic....

Is it against the rules for adywan to do some kind of raffle to help raise money for equipment? The prize could be an original signed Star Wars painting by the man himself. I know I would buy a few raffle tickets for that. Or is that considered profiting from your fan-edit (even though no one is paying for a copy of said fan-edit)? If doing a fan-edit trashes your computer, fans chipping in to fix it isn't really profit, it's recouping losses, right?

Just a thought.