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adywan said:

Ronster said:

 The whole thing that has me in disagreement about this particular clip is that the pause works so incredibly well and it was how it was recorded, so this is what really has me scratching my head about that particular point.

But it wasn't how it was  recorded, that's the thing. It was two separately recorded pieces edited together for nothing more than the soundtrack CD. On the original soundtrack double vinyl LP they were two separate tracks also.

 Yes! and there is a very clear space in between where one track ends and the other one starts.

They are edited together with a gap in the middle of them both...Agreed?

The question here is how they were edited together is it precise as to how it was meant to synch up to the film?

You have gone for an overlap as per score notes and I have chose to adhere to the silence as per the recording and remove Bars because I don't think anything is missing from the AT-AT reveal and really the main thing I have been looking at is the transition to double time and matching that and found that the first note of the piano riff (although bars are removed) synchs up with the foot... The first time we see the AT-AT.

I am tracing back from a point in the middle (Double time cue) to find a start point.... You are trying to synch the music to what is already there when it might be a cover up of a missing scene. Hence why the music was probably removed in the first place.

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adywan i don't mean to bother you but we haven't had an update since may so how's it coming along?

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jedimasterobiwan said:

pick on someone else jerk you must be a real big man pick on other people jerk

To whom are you speaking?

A picture is worth a thousand words. Post 102 is worth more.

I’m late to the party, but I think this is the best song. Enjoy!

—Teams Jetrell Fo 1, Jetrell Fo 2, and Jetrell Fo 3

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Best not to pick a fight with all of Team Olie. But I think they were referring to the cute polar bear.

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JMOW, you have to understand by now that asking Adywan for an update is the definition of bothering him.

Things are progressing just fine.

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jedimasterobiwan said:

TV's Frink

 We weren't saying you were cute, the comment had nothing to do with you.  Also, TV's Frink is no longer a part of our team.

Team Olie

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For the benefit of jedimasterobiwan and everyone else, adywan posted this on his 'Star Wars Revisited' facebook page yesterday, so hang in there -

Updates on the progress of ESB:R will be posted after the weekend.  Working my ass off just now  ;)

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Ronster said:

adywan said:

Ronster said:

 The whole thing that has me in disagreement about this particular clip is that the pause works so incredibly well and it was how it was recorded, so this is what really has me scratching my head about that particular point.

But it wasn't how it was  recorded, that's the thing. It was two separately recorded pieces edited together for nothing more than the soundtrack CD. On the original soundtrack double vinyl LP they were two separate tracks also.

 Yes! and there is a very clear space in between where one track ends and the other one starts.

They are edited together with a gap in the middle of them both...Agreed?

The question here is how they were edited together is it precise as to how it was meant to synch up to the film?

You have gone for an overlap as per score notes and I have chose to adhere to the silence as per the recording and remove Bars because I don't think anything is missing from the AT-AT reveal and really the main thing I have been looking at is the transition to double time and matching that and found that the first note of the piano riff (although bars are removed) synchs up with the foot... The first time we see the AT-AT.

I am tracing back from a point in the middle (Double time cue) to find a start point.... You are trying to synch the music to what is already there when it might be a cover up of a missing scene. Hence why the music was probably removed in the first place.

 There is no missing scene or shots (atleast none that were scored by this these cues), John Williams always intended the two cues to overlap.

The Battle of Hoth on the 2 disc CD is

3M1 Drawing The Battle Lines
3M2 Leia’s Instructions
3M3 The Snow Battle
3M4/4M1 Luke’s First Crash
4M2 The Rebels Escape Again

All overlapped in the film, but with sections dropped, the CD mostly reflect this, but they chose to mix the cues together differently. (And wrongly in the case of 3m2 and 3m3)

John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/

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fishmanlee said:


The Battle of Hoth on the 2 disc CD is

3M1 Drawing The Battle Lines
3M2 Leia’s Instructions
3M3 The Snow Battle
3M4/4M1 Luke’s First Crash
4M2 The Rebels Escape Again

All overlapped in the film, but with sections dropped, the CD mostly reflect this, but they chose to mix the cues together differently. (And wrongly in the case of 3m2 and 3m3)

 What sections were dropped? and which others are overlapped? Are you sure about the phrasing interpretation being overlap and not Lead-in?

This is very different to the fade out cuts where the build ups were cut when the falcon leaves echo base or "we're going in closer to one of the big ones" when the build up is chopped in half. Although it is another build up that has once again been trashed albeit in a different manner because they kept the music score solid in this instance. But we have far too much music than there is footage. I agree with most restored cues you did, but this one just sounds wrong. And that is not in any way meant to be in detriment of you. I think it is actually quite tricky on occasion to say how something was actually meant to be and get it right. I'll put myself in the category too.

I remember when I was actually looking at "The Departure of Bobba Fett" Music cues and I know something is not right about it. And you were saying it was right.

So I only figured this out a few days a go... "Don't blame me how am I supposed to know the difference between a power socket and a computer terminal"

R2-D2 drives in to the wall and beeps disgruntled.

"We'll at least your still in one piece, look what happened to me!"

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"I think it is actually quite tricky on occasion to say how something was actually meant to be and get it right."

Except when the information on how it was intended to be is pretty much handed to you on a silver platter (in this case indicated by Williams himself in the sheet music).

John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/

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fishmanlee said:


Except when the information on how it was intended to be is pretty much handed to you on a silver platter (in this case indicated by Williams himself in the sheet music).

 To what, or whom by means of association is this theme of music about? What does it relate to?

http://youtu.be/5zl9VtRxaoc?t=16

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Ok so that is your take and people interpret things differently. It does not mean you are wrong but for me to describe this "theme" I will do so specifically.

It is heavily inspired or influenced by a funeral march in it's rhythm and it's somber tones. It is often misquoted as being "Bobba Fetts" theme but it is not about him. It is about Han in carbonite although neither dead or alive being carted off in a floating coffin by his storm trooper undertakers. The music communicates this very clearly in the way it is fashioned.

So I just want to be clear that there is no silver platter although a valuable resource you still need to use association specifically when you get either a strong change in either rhythm or a specific theme. I am just trying to be helpful to you because I think you are a good bloke :)

I now understand what you are saying about Brian Risner Remix and how certain recordings are altered. And the Eric Tomlinson Film mixes shed a much greater light on the actual score sessions and are accurate to the actual film score.

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fishmanlee said:

No character specifically, i'ts more a theme for a setting or concept, probably for the Cloud City trap.

 

I see someone's been listening to Star Wars Oxygen.

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Okay, adywan has now added a lengthy update on the Facebook page about where things currently stand with his 'ESB:R' project.

There's a few things of interest mentioned concerning his 'Han In Carbonite' resculpt etc., and he's planning to release a more finished clip of the 'Gantry Lightsaber Duel' right up to the 'Bespin Escape' in the next couple of days or so.  :)

See here - https://www.facebook.com/swrevisited

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Thanks for the update!  It looks like Han is going to turn out looking pretty awesome when it's finished.

Though as far as releasing Empire Revisited close to the TFA release date, I've been holding out watching the Original Trilogy for a few years now waiting for this version of Empire Strikes Back-even before Disney bought Lucasfilm. One way or another I will watch the OT before Force Awakens.  If it's complete, even if it's right before the TFA release date, I hope you reconsider.

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Though it is always hard to wait for the final product, we understand and look forward to the final release.

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exitzero said:

Thanks for the update!  It looks like Han is going to turn out looking pretty awesome when it's finished.

Though as far as releasing Empire Revisited close to the TFA release date, I've been holding out watching the Original Trilogy for a few years now waiting for this version of Empire Strikes Back-even before Disney bought Lucasfilm. One way or another I will watch the OT before Force Awakens.  If it's complete, even if it's right before the TFA release date, I hope you reconsider.

 When I feel like watching Star Wars, I usually watch Ady's version, but my alternate option is Harmy's despecialized versions. I'll most likely be watching those in December in anticipation for TFA. I too was having hopes for ESB:R to be out before then, but Harmy's will do.

“Lifes a song you don’t get to rehearse, and every single verse can make it that much worse”

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Here is a new clip. It's just under 9 minutes long and about 260MB. I tried uploading it directly to facebook, but they flagged it for copyright issues and gave me a warning.

The video work is 100% complete. This is how it will appear in the final version. And, as usual, the audio is just a guide track and not an indication of the final version

https://mega.co.nz/…

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