STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 1118

Here's something that caught my eye, haven't seen mentioned anywhere else, and thought it's worth looking into.

In this shot, we clearly see Lobot walk up the stairs and to the left in the corridor.

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Later, we see him coming from the right in this shot.

My suggestion is either (not sure which I'd prefer):

A) Only flip Lobot in the background in that last image so he's coming  from the left (where we saw him walk towards just moments before).

B) remove Lobot from that previous shot (or replace with someone else who doesn't look like the cyborg) since he has little reason being there anyway (unless he's fetching stormtroopers - but again, the direction that he comes from is inconsistent). He wouldn't have had time in this scene (nor would it make sense) to walk one way, then walk to the other side, and finally come in from the opposite direction.

Ronster said:

That is one that is misleading... It could of course be a roundabout hall so in effect Lobot spotted them went and got the troopers and came around the other side...To spring their arrest.

Except if you notice in the shot with the SE windows (which Ady is keeping and even fixed in that "arrest" shot), there is no roundabout hall - you see the outside and towers. True, we could remove the SE windows and then that'd leave that possibility of a roundabout, but honestly I wouldn't prefer that over either of the other two suggestions I already mentioned.

Ronster said:

Star Wars can be interpreted in so many different ways it can appear muddled when it is in fact not but on the flip side of this it can appear to be fine when it is in fact muddled.

Btw, I really like this quote as it is very true. I think this is one of those times. To me, this sequence appears fine as it is when it is in fact muddled.

Imho, I think the best approach for improving this sequence is only flip Lobot during the arrest so he's coming from the left instead of the right (but if it's easier for Ady to do, the Stormtroopers could be flipped with him too), as this change will be the least noticeable (Ady has no problem flipping shots for correcting other minor things after all). I'm curious what Ady thinks.

You can't flip any of those shots without creating more continuity errors. You flip the shot of him walking up stairs and Han & co are coming from the wrong direction from the previous shot and Hans gun belt is also on the wrong side. Flip the shot of lobot coming down the stairs and the stormtroopers are reversed (and you can't just flip Lobot either). It's only a problem since the SE's, thanks to the window as the original "windows" could well have had the corridor go all the way around the back. But, Lobot could always have doubled back when the attention was not focused on the rear wall, so i see no need to do anything here.

adywan said:

You can't flip any of those shots without creating more continuity errors. You flip the shot of him walking up stairs and Han & co are coming from the wrong direction from the previous shot and Hans gun belt is also on the wrong side. Flip the shot of lobot coming down the stairs and the stormtroopers are reversed (and you can't just flip Lobot either). It's only a problem since the SE's, thanks to the window as the original "windows" could well have had the corridor go all the way around the back. But, Lobot could always have doubled back when the attention was not focused on the rear wall, so i see no need to do anything here.

Thank you for your response Ady.

I understand the issue with flipping those other shots, but you do think it'd be a problem to only flip Lobot and the stormtroopers in the background during the arrest? I thought they looked symmetrical enough to where it could possibly work (if anything their holsters would be on the opposite side, but it's not as noticeable as Lobot going one way and coming from another; plus who says Stormtroopers can't wear it on any side?). Since it doesn't change anything if he's there or not, what about the idea of removing Lobot from walking up the stairs (probably more work than benefit though).

I had thought about the "double back" theory, but considering the pacing of this sequence (and within the frequent times we actually do catch a glimpse of the back window, with nobody there), it's difficult to imagine he had time to do this (assuming he did have good reason to move back and forth in the hallway). I guess the only time I can see him changing course and head to the right side is while Chewie looks over his shoulder, but I'd prefer to think Chewie looks over his shoulder because he senses something is wrong, not that he sees something is wrong. But if you're sure it's fine how it is, then I think we can all agree to that too ;)

If you haven't already, would you at least be willing to correct the stormtrooper's feet between shots during the arrest?

@ Ronster, As for Han and Lando switching sides around Lea, I guess the way to view these two shots are as shots that aren't directly linked (as in, some time has elapsed to give time for them to switch sides).

Bloody hell!!

rockin said:

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

It almost seems that way XD or as Ronster put it, it's like a paradox. While I thought "fixing" this detail would make any issue less noticeable in this sequence, I think Ady made the right decision to just leave it alone after all - other areas need his attention more.

There's no point in messing with the Lobot shot.  None.

It's a perfect deception; Lando is leading his 'guests' into a trap.

Lobot, walking by in front up the stairs is the marker for the timeframe in which Lando will have Han and Leia in front of Vader.

I always believed after passing in front of Lando and quarry, walks to the holding area where Vader's troops are waiting and gives them the signal.

Lobot walks off screen, we do not see where he goes - we do not need to see where he goes.  He goes to get the stormtroopers.

No continuity error in that shot whatsoever.

None.

A couple more BTS shots:

Dagobah trees during stage 1 & 2 of painting

Dagobah trees after stage 3 paint & completed

I'm not sure we'll need Dagobah trees again. OR DO WE?!

(We don't).

Most everything will sold to make room and pay for for new models.

Ahhh dry-brushing on a scale when only an empty tub of Morrison's budget Icecream will do ;-)

Impressive work, Ady!

Sojourn said:

Gorgeous! Is the texture painted on, or is the "bark" actually textured? Either way, it looks beautiful! Thanks so much for sharing. 

The "bark" is textured.