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cbaka said:
Hi, here's some intersting news about a lost Making of ESB by michel parbot
http://www.mintinbox.net/Dossiers/Michel_Parbot
Happy new year.
Is this doc available anywhere? It sounds really interesting.
Jaitea said:
Sorry to bring up snowspeeders again, but they seem to only develop orange markings in daylight.....strange photosynth paint?
J
Great examples Mr J.
They push the quality even more high since adywan posted his early attemt in the hoth video ages ago. Not saying that was anything from final back then but you still can prove that can be done with the finest way possible!
-Angel
cbaka said:
Hi, here's some intersting news about a lost Making of ESB by michel parbot
http://www.mintinbox.net/Dossiers/Michel_Parbot
Happy new year.
Is this doc available anywhere? It sounds really interesting.
Thanks Angel, gonna look back and see what Ady's version looked like.....so long ago....
iamweasel said:
cbaka said:
Hi, here's some intersting news about a lost Making of ESB by michel parbot
http://www.mintinbox.net/Dossiers/Michel_Parbot
Happy new year.
Is this doc available anywhere? It sounds really interesting.
There's a thread in the SW preservations section devoted to this.....been going since 2007......19 pages.......there's links to youtube in there too.....very good
The making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
J
Angel said:
Adywan posted his early attemt in the hoth video ages ago.
Yep...sorry forgot about that.....found the video on LadyFerry's youtube channel.
Ady's already done that (as aalenfae had also predicted)
J
Hope you don't mind a question/suggestion from a first time poster, and a bit of gushing... I recently watched The Empire Strikes Back for the first time since... well, the 1997 Special Edition re-release (which was my very first Star Wars experience), using Harmy's Theatrical Reconstruction. I watched A New Hope Revisited last week, and I could not have been more impressed. Even as a kid I knew the New Hope Jabba scene was ridiculous, and I honestly look back at it as the reason I never got in to Star Wars the way so many people have. I can't wait to watch the completed, Revisited OT with fresh eyes.
One thing stuck out to me for Empire Strikes Back, and while I have read a lot of this topic, I don't know if this has been brought up in the last 1002 pages, but it wasn't in your original post for specified changes...
In the Theatrical Reconstruction (I do NOT know if it is in any other edition), the scene where Han is frozen in carbonite had a continuity error where Han changes outfits, specifically during the 'I love you' exchange. I know for certain that it happens twice, once with 'I love you' and once with his reaction shot of his cuffs being tightened. In the long shots, he's in the white shirt, in the close-ups he has his vest.
Is this something you are aware of, willing to fix, capable of fixing?
And a really huge, sincere thank you for all the hard work you're putting in to this edit.
TheDerider said:
Is this something you are aware of, willing to fix, capable of fixing?
I believe that was already fixed by Lucas himself for the '04 Special Edition, so it's certainly do-able. I'm not sure whether Adywan intends to un-fix it though... I would guess that he would keep it fixed.
I'm sure Adywan could do a better job than LFL did...still looked unnatural to me
J
As I recall the official word was that he was never wearing his jacket in that shot but it was just a trick of the lighting that made him look like he was.
If the Blu-Ray is to be the source wouldn't it be difficult to undo the Lucas crop?
I imagine there would be too much movement in the shot to realistically replace the shirt and the resolution would be mismatched to restore it in it's corrected form.
I don't know, I think that was one area where LFL did a decent enough job.
DF Shadow said:
I don't know, I think that was one area where LFL did a decent enough job.
The lighting effect is ok, but the shot has been cropped. That's what's great about the third example, it has the lighting effect and is uncropped.
I think the problem Bingowings has pointed out is that to have it uncropped, Ady would have to use the GOUT as a source just for that one shot. The shot before it was corrected and cropped doesn't exist in any other form, therefore there'd be a visible drop in quality. Even if it was masked in a way that it was just the outfit and the removed parts of the frame that were GOUT sourced, it would still be a noticeable drop in quality.
Erm:
Not saying that Ady should use mine, just that he could do exactly the same thing, if he wanted to undo the change and then fix it himself ;-) I think it worked quite well in my edit.
Yes it's definitely do-able, the brightened 'real' shirt i photoshopped in came from the following shot of Han lowering into the carbon chamber, I just skewed it and meshed it a bit to fit over the darkened shirt....therefore Han and the new shirt could be HD sourced this would leave just the out of focus background to uncrop....which luckily is not the focal point of the scene.
J
I'm actually hoping Ady uses Harmy as a source for RotJR, would save so much time...
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Well, hopefully by then v2.0 of Jedi will be out, so the quality should be quite a bit better but I'm still not sure it would be quite good enough for Ady to use as a main source but he could definitely use my Sarlacc and whatever else he might want to revert to the original. I'd even be happy to send him higher quality files for those shots.
Ah. I had no idea that there was another shot with a near identically positioned shirt in it. Now it makes sense :-)
Jaitea said:
Thanks Angel, gonna look back and see what Ady's version looked like.....so long ago....
iamweasel said:
cbaka said:
Hi, here's some intersting news about a lost Making of ESB by michel parbot
http://www.mintinbox.net/Dossiers/Michel_Parbot
Happy new year.
Is this doc available anywhere? It sounds really interesting.
There's a thread in the SW preservations section devoted to this.....been going since 2007......19 pages.......there's links to youtube in there too.....very good
The making of The Empire Strikes Back (Michel Parbot)
J
Thanks Jaitea, I will check it out.
W.
Information from Adywan:
"Ok guys, i've been quiet lately due to the fact that my internet sucks. had little or no connection for days now and i'm having to use a pre-pay mobile internet dongle, which give you no internet time at all.
I'm down to my last 30p credit on it and i refuse to pay for any more, especially when i'm already paying for net use with my ISP. Doesn't look like the problem is going to get fixed any time soon either(crappy TalkTalk). when i do get a landline connection it has been 32kbit/s, which is slower than bloody dial up."
He wants you guys over here at OT.com to know this because he really needs to reply to a load of stuff here but alas the page will just not load, don't worry though he is currently working hard on Empire: R and will be back here as soon as things gets sorted.
Star wars: Revisited. is now on facebook :)
http://www.facebook.com/swrevisited
UPDATE:
From Adywan:
Ok guys, i've been quiet lately due to the fact that my internet sucks. had little or no connection for days now and i'm having to use a pre-pay mobile internet dongle, which give you no internet time at all. I'm down to my last 30p credit on it and i refuse to pay for any more, especially when i'm already paying for net use with my ISP. Doesn't look like the problem is going to get fixed any time soon either(crappy TalkTalk). when i do get a landline connection it has been 32kbit/s, which is slower than bloody dial up.
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doubleofive said:
he had been up for 48 hours working on a single shot!
I recommend we start a "Don't die, Ady!" campaign?
Or a donation drive to get him quality broadband!
Spoiler free for the ST
doubleofive said:
EDIT: Yes, we were fighting for who would update you all first. Well, no one can out Twitter me!
twister?
Good point, she certainly Twitters a lot.TV's Frink said:
twister?
doubleofive said:
EDIT: Yes, we were fighting for who would update you all first. Well, no one can out Twitter me!
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doubleofive said:
Good point, she certainly Twitters a lot.TV's Frink said:
twister?
doubleofive said:
EDIT: Yes, we were fighting for who would update you all first. Well, no one can out Twitter me!
I personally don't think the donation is a good thing, I think it put useless pressure on Adywan's shoulders if anything.
I think the amount of energy and human's life time used for this project is at the same time amazing and maybe also starts to be not healthy. But that's just me.
Good luck and Keep up the good work though, just don't loose your mind.