STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 396

}{eywood said:

I certainly was not kidding.  I think HD looks artificial, like CGI looked before they figured out they needed to add motion blur to the frames. I also think people are sporting too much bling with these ridiculously large televisions. Half the reason we have to have everything in HD is the enormous screen sizes.  The other half is flatscreens automatically make everything look like shit.  I'll stick to CRT screens, which I am completely satisfied with the quality of, until I can't find them anymore.  Better that than have to replace my entire video collection with one that's twice as big but has no more content

 I think you need to go see your eye doctor and have your prescription changed or issued. 

I understand your point with CRT's giving batter blacks ect.  But from a technical perspective your post makes no sense.

AntcuFaalb said:

}{eywood: You're making at least four different claims. I'll address each one individually here.

1. HD looks artificial

If this is true, then 35mm film must look artificial to you as well. 35mm film is capable (demonstrably!) of resolving to >4K. And yes, this is true for release prints as well.

Are you perhaps arguing that television technology has something to do with this artificial appearance instead? See #4.

2. Reality doesn't look as sharp as HD

If this is true, then you must need glasses. Please visit an Ophthalmologist ASAP.

I'm not kidding. Your eyes should be able to see much more than 480 or 576 lines. Your blurry vision might pose a significant danger to yourself or the people around you. Living life with SD eyes is uncivil and irresponsible.

3. People aren't modest enough in their choice of television size and technology

Why do you care? I have a 5ft. plasma in my living room (for Blu-rays) and a 2.5ft. CRT in my basement (for LDs), so am I rocking all this bling too or am I an exception to your observation?

4. Modern television sets make everything look like shit

They do? Are you sure you have the EE and DNR (and other BS features) turned off? Are you sure your set has a good black level? Are you sure you're using a good source; e.g., the Lawrence of Arabia blu-ray?

Come back after seeing Lawrence of Arabia on an ISF calibrated Pioneer Kuro set and let me know if you still hold this opinion.

 Now I understand why some people can be grumpy around here.

I'm buying a flatscreen as soon as I can afford a forklift to remove my CRT.

Harmy said:

}{eywood said:

 To watch HD is painful to me because reality doesn't have edges that sharp, why should my TV shows? 

 LOL, are you serious? :-D

I was thinking the same thing. Last I heard, all film was captured from that thing called "real life". 

I guess they applied a sharpening filter to it. 

Perhaps a more important question is how have our eyes evolved to see detail that doesn't exist in the real world, but apparently does in a home video format? Answer me that, Darwin. You hack!

Why are you guys feeding the troll?! :)

Funcha said:

Why are you guys feeding the troll?! :)

That term gets thrown around way too often here. He's not a troll. Just a bit misinformed.

Whenever someone says that, I get hungry for fish.

Harmy said:

Oh, yeah, no doubt about that - he can watch it black and white and pan and scan too for all I care. What I'm doubting is his premise that HD video is sharper than real life is. :-D

It might be possible, if say, he has crazy high sharpness and contrast in his TV settings. You know, the type that make your eyes bleed. O_O

rockin said:

Harmy said:

Oh, yeah, no doubt about that - he can watch it black and white and pan and scan too for all I care. What I'm doubting is his premise that HD video is sharper than real life is. :-D

It might be possible, if say, he has crazy high sharpness and contrast in his TV settings. You know, the type that make your eyes bleed. O_O

I'm hoping to God that was just carrying on the joke, because to imply his TV could be displaying a higher res than actual REALITY is.......silly. It's about as silly as someone making the claim that their TV can display colours we've never seen before. Or a fourth dimension. It's just not possible.

Back on topic? :-p

TMBTM did it already...sort of.

.Mac. said:

TV's Frink said:

Whenever someone says that, I get hungry for fish.

Whenever I hear it I think of three billy goats crossing a bridge :)

 WRONG KIND OF TROLL

Last time I checked we weren't allowed to make personal attacks on people with different notions. So unless that's changed It might be prudent to dial down the name calling.

I remember first seeing a HD film on my telly and it did look odd.

Not because it wasn't realistic but it looked incongruous in a televisual context to see that degree of resolution. I think the frame rate business with the Hobbit films is the same sort of shock of the new.

Also in the early days I think broadcasters for HDTV manipulated the image to make the HD quality more obvious (like they did with colour television in the sixties with all those primary colours).

I recall seeing an episode of Game of Thrones and thinking the grapes in a bowl of fruit looked more like glass. This is possibly due to production tinkering to get the most out of the technology of the time more than the actual resolution itself but they are probably related.

At the end of the day it makes no difference, Ady has spoken so get over it.

Perhaps this incongruity with help :

.Mac. said:

You just made me think of something, and now I'm curious if someone has ever tried it before... an edit of SW to be like those short "silent films" of the 1920's. Black & white, no sound, and intertitles.That could actually be a lot of fun to watch, from a completely new (but old) perspective :)

 http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/123-star-wars-30-s-serial-edition-part-2

http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/80-fanedit-listings/fanmix/126-star-wars-30-s-silent-edition-part-2-dusty-version

There are PT versions as well, if you're into that sort of thing...