STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 353

I agree with you. The AVCHD colors do look much better; Revisited seems a bit too desaturated.

Ady, will there be an HD Purists version, like with the original Revisited release?

There won't, as he said in the previous page :)

Harmy said

 

I really hope he does that, I was checking ANH:R right now and comparing it to Ady's AVCHD colours and ANH:R looks almost black and white compared to the AVCHD colours, which was also corrected by Adywan and the colours there are beautiful IMO, so it would be great if he took the same approach to the colour correction as he did with the AVCHD.

 

 

And also, as it seems my previous post got kinda lost, how about only making a selectable soundmix, which wouldn't feature the added music?

 The Aluminium Falcon said:

I agree with you.  The AVCHD colours do look much better; Revisited seems a bit too desaturated.

One of the things I personally loved about 'Star Wars:Revisited' was it's somewhat 'stylized' colouration when it came to the 'Death Star's interior sets.  It's deliberately 'grey' pallette was certainly a big improvement over the SE dvd colours, and I thought it really suited the look of the 'Death Star'.

However, when adywan eventually gets around to his next version of it in a few years, it seems he will indeed be re-colouring certain things differently, as he mentions in this interview which you may have missed - http://doubleofive.wordpress.com/ganamaes-interview-with-adywan/

I haven't seen the AVCHD, but the comparison shot above looks good too, and I'm sure things will look terrific, whatever is done.  As far as the added music during the Vader/Ben duel was concerned...I'd have to say that it was one of my absolute favourite enhancements to his edit, and a very bold idea.  I see there's been recent suggestions for different versions of that music to be used instead, and I can see how that might be equally good too...but mainly I just love the fact that there was such a neat piece of music used over the scene in the first place. 

According to that interview above, it seems that adywan is considering going back to silence during the duel.  Time will tell, but I always loved how most of the movie seemed to be filled with John Williams score throughout so much of it, and I reckon this scene benefits from having some too.  After being used to hearing how things sound in 'Revisited' for so long, I just find the original scene lacking without a musical accompanyment now.

Just my own 2 cents on that. 

Something I remember hearing in an interview somewhere was that Lucas (or someone) decided that the sounds of the lightsabers themselves should be the "music" for the duel scene.  That's also why the music was cut from the ESB duel.

I loved the music change myself, and it worked tremendously with the editing, cutting back and forth to the escapees at just the right times. Sounds so dramatic when Han goes "let's hope he got that tractor beam out of commission"  and it cuts back to the duel.

However, what ChainsawAsh said above is certainly interesting. There are musical cues in the other OT duels, but only at dramatic moments, whereas the ANH:R duel as it stands now has constant music.

So basically I'm on the fence.

I prefer the original-no-score....the addition of music cheapens the scene especially using prequel music.

J

Jaitea said:

I prefer the original-no-score....the addition of music cheapens the scene especially using prequel music.

J

Well the fact that it was in the prequels is a bit of a petty thing to have against the music choice. It's not the music's fault it was in a bad movie :-p

lol brash. And true.

I have to say, (and I really do love SW:R!) that I do prefer the colours also of the AVCHD version. To me, the Death Star interior looks closer to the original in the AVCHD than SW:R. It would be nice to see a best of both versions in the next version.

Jaitea said:

I prefer the original-no-score....the addition of music cheapens the scene especially using prequel music.

J

 I also prefer the no added music option. But I DO like the idea of it being included in an optional soundtrack that could be selected from a DVD menu for those who DO enjoy it.

brash_stryker said:

Jaitea said:

I prefer the original-no-score....the addition of music cheapens the scene especially using prequel music.

J

Well the fact that it was in the prequels is a bit of a petty thing to have against the music choice. It's not the music's fault it was in a bad movie :-p

No, no, I actually think that the music that Mr Williams composed for the prequels is very good........it's just that his style has changed especially when contrasted to his 70's work....it doesn't blend.

J

If you listen to JW's scores at the time of SW....like Jaws, CE3K, Superman, Raiders & ESB....they all have a similar feel,....interchangeable

J

Wow your analysis of these films are totally groundbreaking,..... ;)

To me John Williams music of that era sounds different to what he composes more recently.

J

Jaitea said:

No, no, I actually think that the music that Mr Williams composed for the prequels is very good........it's just that his style has changed especially when contrasted to his 70's work....it doesn't blend.

J

Darth Editous said:

 

Jaitea said:

No, no, I actually think that the music that Mr Williams composed for the prequels is very good........it's just that his style has changed especially when contrasted to his 70's work....it doesn't blend.

J

Isn't it also the case (I may have imagined this bit) that the prequels were (re-)edited after the music was composed and recorded, unlike the original trilogy, where the music was recorded after the edit was complete?

DE

 

Yep absolutely DE, you've hit the nail on the head, there are definitely different factors involved between then and now....the way films are now are different..my son used to say Star Wars was boring compared to the later films.......WHAT.......too slow......WHAT...... Superman also....the cinema audience today are used to a..........ah! I'm gonna quote him,......'Faster, more intense' style of movie making. 

When I was a kid I had a LP collection of soundtracks....you could actually sit down and listen to the whole soundtrack of SW....and get swept away by the pure elegance. I couldn't sit through the prequel soundtracks....they are clunky and bitsy...as you say trying to fit a fast paced movie, changing scenes less than every 2 minutes.

Anyway...enough of this rant....next subject.

J

EDIT: Exactly Pagz, you beat me to it.

Pagz said:

I heard a story, and this might be entirely fictional, that John Williams was so unhappy with the way his score was butchered in Episode I that he wrote George Lucas a letter where in he disowned the score as it appears in the final cut of the film. Urban legend perhaps? I don't know. I do know that the way Lucas makes his movies now prevents Williams from scoring them the way the OT was scored. Hence why so many musical cues are recycled over and over in each film.

I did hear that JW wasn't at all happy with how his score was utilized in Episode 2 - e.g. how what he composed for the arena battle was removed in favour of no music followed by recycled stuff, and how it was then butchered and used entirely unsuitably in the march on the temple in ROTS.

He also wasn't given enough time on the AOTC soundtrack, it was rushed and there's a lot of horrible recycling of the same tracks throughout the film as a result (as well as from TPM). The episode 2 soundtrack is the only one not to have been released as a 2 disk uber edition - there's just not enough material to even make one. If there was it would've been milked, I'm sure!

Anyway, kinda straying from the topic a bit...

@Jaitea I completely agree that OT and PT williams have a totally different feel to eachother.