SAVE LANDO!!!! — Page 5

yeah the 2 death stars is kinda milking the death star reoccurences in the saga. Plus the 2nd death star isnt even finished. How in the hell is their gonna be another. Another thing is 2 death stars would be pointless because the rebels wouldnt even act like their is 2. It would be out of place.

Bingowings said:

But as I said you don't need that approach to get around Luke getting out in time, you just have him leave earlier.

Does no one like my idea of not showing him leave at all?  Have Leia's revelation that she feels that Luke is alive be both a reveal of her untrained Force ability and a revelation to the audience that Luke made it off.  So we'd see Luke mourning his father and next time burning the remains, not: mourning his father, flying a shuttle out of an exploding hanger bay at the last second, burning the remains.

Or if you really wanted, instead of the Falcon flying in front of the DS explosion, have it be Luke's shuttle.

I either need to figure out how to do some editing with the programs I have, or ask someone else to mock it up for me...

Bingowings said:

TMBTM said:

doubleofive said:

Bingowings said:

But as I said you don't need that approach to get around Luke getting out in time, you just have him leave earlier.

Does no one like my idea of not showing him leave at all?  Have Leia's revelation that she feels that Luke is alive be both a reveal of her untrained Force ability and a revelation to the audience that Luke made it off.  So we'd see Luke mourning his father and next time burning the remains, not: mourning his father, flying a shuttle out of an exploding hanger bay at the last second, burning the remains.

Or if you really wanted, instead of the Falcon flying in front of the DS explosion, have it be Luke's shuttle.

I either need to figure out how to do some editing with the programs I have, or ask someone else to mock it up for me...

I think it's a good idea to not see Luke leaving the Death Star. It's a good exemple of "less is more".

It might seem a bit bizarre having Luke on a battered station with a dying Vader one minute and on the moon with Vader's corpse later but then it might put greater strength to Leia's knowing he survived, I guess it would be something that you could only be sure of once someone has given it a go.

I sent Davnes a PM and asked him if he could mock it up for me.  If anyone else wants to try, I can send them my notes.

I am not too against the idea now but can the other death star at least look like they do in the paintings

Start making props then :P

Or find one with good 3d skills

-Angel

Monroville said:

Just watch RETURNING TO JEDI; you actually have Harrison Ford doing a commentary during both the Sarlaac pit scene and the end battle at Endor saying that Lando was supposed to die at either location (no doubt the Sarlaac death was an earlier draft).

One thing that always bugged me even as a kid (after the 10th time watching JEDI naturally, when you get over the WOW! effect and start to really watch the movie) was: how is it that the reactor just exploded and it takes the Death Star like 10 minutes to actually explode?  As soon as that thing crashed and exploded behind the Falcon - BLAM!  WHITE LIGHT!  OUTSIDE SHOT OF DS EXPLODING!

You never had a 10 minute build-up (with the Death Star explosion) in ANH (remember the time factor was the torpedo travelling down the shaft to reach the reactor - once it hit, the whole thing blew up), so what they did in JEDI just seemed like these characters just CAN'T be killed no matter what happens - not even PHYSICS can kill them!  So on top of the teddy bears, the constant "FREEZE, Rebel scum!... Wait a minute, the rebels aren't telling US to freeze... they just SHOOT us!" moments and everything else, how can we possibly take this seriously, regardless of Lando dying or not?

That's never really bothered me, though I've been concious of the discrepancy.  Remember the first Death Star was complete and most likely fully pressurised as a sealed unit.  My impression was that DS2 had very few habitable parts, and much of it was somewhat open to space.

The comparison I draw is igniting a small pile of gunpowder in a pill box, then igniting the same quantity packed into a bullet casing.

Oh my ! You're gonna destroy the Millenium Falcon !...

trimboNZ said:

That's never really bothered me, though I've been concious of the discrepancy.  Remember the first Death Star was complete and most likely fully pressurised as a sealed unit.  My impression was that DS2 had very few habitable parts, and much of it was somewhat open to space.

The comparison I draw is igniting a small pile of gunpowder in a pill box, then igniting the same quantity packed into a bullet casing.

 

But reactors are completely different than gunpowder in a pill box.  Remember that the Emperor also said: "now witness the fire power of a fully operational battle station!"... as in, it was fully operational.  The reactor is online and pumping out planet-killer laser juice. 

So either the reactor blows up like it does initially and the body of the Death Star remains intact (because the reactor explosion is not powerful enough to instantly vaporize the DS and everything around/inside it) or it IS that strong and as soon as it tumbles and explodes behind the Falcon, BLAM!  Super large explosion!  It can't be both.

You know, here's a depressing idea for an edit:
Lando blows up the reactor and everything happens as it does: Luke gets out and Lando gets out and yells YAHOO! and all that (though I would still thin the fleet outside).

But instead of showing the Death Star blow up as it does, do an ID4 showing the eplosions from the weaker reactor underneath the skin of the DS, which remains intact (per the first accessment written above).  The DS then does a STAR TREK 3 and enters Endor's atmosphere, where you then take shots from DEEP IMPACT and show the bulk of the DS hitting Endor and wiping out the Ewoks, Leia, Han, Chewie, R2, 3PO and everyone else -not destroying the planet, but just causing a lot of damage around the impact zone.

You would end the movie with Luke taking Vader to the area where his friends used to be to put his body on the pyre.  Since it is at night, you could alter the treescape and skyline to reflect a forest that has been pulverized with a shockwave (like after a forest fire). 

This way, Lando and Luke survive, but damn near the rest of the cast dies as a result of the rebel attack (talk about consequences!) due to unforeseen circumstances.

This is not so much for JEDI:R as it is an idea for any editor to use.

doubleofive said:

I sent Davnes a PM and asked him if he could mock it up for me.  If anyone else wants to try, I can send them my notes.

I need to pay more attention to my PM's. Anyway, even though 005 send another PM saying I didn't need to worry about it, I DID worry about it....

...and here's the result: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ybxU0SsNIc

Awesome!  Pretty much exactly what I had in mind!  But now that I figured out the Vegas trial, I'm going to give it a shot myself with some more ideas I came up with, and if I get really bored I'll try some color correction and stuff.

Glad Ady is wise enough to pay crap like this no heed. I don't think some people appreciate exactly how much time and effort this man puts into his work. And then here we are, like a bunch of little kids with grubby hands jumping up and down around his knees. Give me a bite of your sandwich Adywan! Give me a bite of your sandwich! Pleeeeasse!!! Please! Please! Please! Please! And don't forget to put pickles on it Adywan. And leave off the tomato and the lettice or you'll RUIN it for me. Oh, and make sure you put a ton of mayonase on it, because I love me my mayo and your sandwich will be worthless without it...

Let the man make his sandwich in peace. If he lets you have a bite of it when he is done, then consider yourself lucky. If you don't like the things the man is dressing his sandwich with, then bugger off and go pester some other poor fellow. Or better yet, make your own damn sandwich.

To Axia, I know you think making your own edit will be really hard, but I'd encourage you to give it a try. If for no other reason than to learn to appreciate all that is required in doing one. ADigitalMan has a fantastic, easy to understand, and not to involved how-to in the how-to section on using Womble to make an edit. Just download Womble (free, fully functional 30 day trial) and some program to rip your DVD to your hard drive, and you could be on your way to making your very own edit in just a matter of minutes (Literally, you could go from beginning to read ADM's how-to, to actually editing your movie in less than 1 hour). It isn't the software you'll want to use when making a serious fanedit, but it is a good place to start for getting the feel for fanediting.

Finished my Lando Sacrifice video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Am4g36Ugm8

Did some color correction, and added some YouTube notes.

Hope you like it!

I think I'll just ignore this thread and stick to "ESB and ROTJ Wishlist".

howabout this,
ady makes two versions
the big story changes in one
the bare bones stuf in the other
(a "purist" version if you will)

because lando's yehaawww has been part of star wars canon for awhile now

Solidifying what Chainsaw said this thread died a long time ago. Ady won't do something just cause somebody else wants him to. ROTJ R is his vision of ROTJ so he is gonna do it according to his design.