Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 77

Listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4OD2iDljrI&t=69s

Now that sounds Like Vader and it’s not Vader but it is James Earl Jones.

I didn’t notice his voice sounding too off, myself.

I wouldn’t be surprised if they deliberately modulated it differently. As I recall, vader’s modulation between Star Wars and the Special Editions (and maybe between the rest of the Original Trilogy, I forget the details) was changed a little.

Perhaps that might be a factor as to why he sounds off as well; Perhaps they used a different reference for how to modulate his voice from what we here usually use as our reference?

Tobar said:

Tyrphanax said:

dahmage said:

I thought Vader was fine, apart from the fact that he wasn’t able to get aboard the Tantive IV. he was able to do that in the OT…

I think it’s important to note that Vader also doesn’t care about the Death Star as has been established in Star Wars and was re-established in Rogue One. Maybe it was less that he couldn’t get to the Rebel and more that he wasn’t too bothered about it.

I think Dahmage believes there’s a continuity error between the two films.

I’d recommend he rewatch the opening of Star Wars.

lame joke was subtle

ZkinandBonez said:

Can someone explain to me what’s wrong with Vader’s dialogue? (Not counting that James Earl Jones sounds older, or the voice modulation.) I can’t remember his dialogue word for word (I might have forgotten some odd lines), but as I was watching the film I thought it was fine. I especially thought his “don’t choke on your aspirations” line was spot on.

I’ve read elsewhere that some people feel that Vader isn’t supposed to say snarky things like that, which I don’t get at all. The OT had several moments of Vader being snarky and intimidating at the same time.

Exactly, How he pronounces “Meeeercy mission” and his “Perhaps you think you’re being treated unfairly” line are good examples of this.

ZkinandBonez said:

Ronster said:

Listen to this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4OD2iDljrI&t=69s

Now that sounds Like Vader and it’s not Vader but it is James Earl Jones.

Kind of an odd excerpt you chose. He just growls.

However, earlier in the video, he really does sound like Vader.
https://youtu.be/h4OD2iDljrI?t=13

I think James Earl Jones just doesn’t have the same punch in his voice any more due to his age. That Stargate clip is after all 20 years old, so his voice sound much closer to Vader in the OT.

He forget how shakespere Vader was 😃

It may just be pronunciation more than anything else.

Here’s RLM’s review of Rogue One…oh boy…

Ugh oh, almighty RLM has spoken. Does this mean everyone has to change their opinions on the movie now?

Lord Haseo said:

Here’s RLM’s review of Rogue One…oh boy…

whatever acclaim those guys at RLM might have gotten with their tearing apart of the Prequels, they have spent, and then some. Being snarky and critical can only get you so far in life. Not really sure why their opinions matter any more. In fact, did they ever matter? I think its more a case of they said things about the prequels that everyone already agreed with. They are not influencers, they are followers.

For those hunting for references to Rebels in Rogue One, here’s a subtle one: https://twitter.com/vanmarshall/status/810633781220671488

The dialogue was most certainly the problem with Vader. The dialogue in the entire movie was terribly written.

Everyone needs to consider that the people making all of these new films are just not as talented, or more importantly inspired, as those who collaborated to make the originals.

They didn’t really say much that I haven’t already heard (again) so my opinion is also unchanged for the moment. I have another viewing in 9 days so it may change then.

Oh God, I’m watching RLM now. I said the same thing about the opening scene when it happened during the movie. Why the hell does the Imperial land a mile away?

Drama. That’s both an in and out of universe explanation 😉

I watched the RLM review and the only thing I agree with them on is Having Galen and Very young Jyn having some time before Krennic Shows up.

And Vaders look and Voice although I am not being as cynical or critical.

I think they just try to get attention by being snarky on Star Wars bundle them in with the other social groups that try to get attention from riding on the back of other successful investments while they try to shoot it down.

they don’t really care and it shows.

Tobar said:

They literally advocated for the removal of “that space battle $#@%.”

Can review shows jump the shark? =P

What’s wrong with that? I said the same thing in my review. The whole third act was ridiculous and eyerolling. The movie was over when Jyn’s father died. The writers screwed up and buried the climax in the middle of the second act!

These non Star Wars fans are the worst…

EDIT:

And you’re goddamn right I went there.

Tyrphanax said:

Alderaan said:

Tobar said:

They literally advocated for the removal of “that space battle $#@%.”

Can review shows jump the shark? =P

What’s wrong with that? I said the same thing in my review. The whole third act was ridiculous and eyerolling. The movie was over when Jyn’s father died. The writers screwed up and buried the climax in the middle of the second act!

How does that change what I said? The film was over when it was revealed Jyn’s father intentionally designed the death star with a flaw and then he died. There was no more story left to tell after that, because the first two acts were not about the Empire vs. The Rebel Alliance. They were about Jyn and her father and their stories. The rest of the **** was just tacked on.

Were the Rebels given the plans to the Death Star in or before that scene? If not then there was still more story to be told.