Rogue One * Spoilers * Thread — Page 60

I just saw the film, and I really liked it. I had a much better feeling coming out of this than I did last year with TFA.

I can’t really complain about much. It’s tad jarring to see so many SW conventions removed, but that’s kind of the point of the anthology films, so that’s just something to get used to. And as far as I’m concerned it worked quite well. I didn’t mind the text telling you what planet you were seeing, and I’m glad that they at least included the “A long time ago…” intro.

The locations where interesting, the aliens looked amazing (they had less screen time than I expected though), and the action was really solid and managed to avoid relying on CG. I mean there was a lot of CG, but it was always in the background, while the action felt very grounded. It’s not like TFA did this poorly, but I felt that RO did it better.

Contrary to what I’ve read, I felt the pacing was very good. The first 10 minutes after the flashback, was a tad fast, but it didn’t annoy me in any way. They simply had to cover a lot of ground, and it did allow the rest of the film to take it’s time.

I’m also very glad that the film stuck with it’s war-movie feel. It never felt like it was trying to be overly child-friendly. I was actually surprised at just how dark it actually was. Some scenes were quite intense. Also, K-2SO didn’t feel like the forced comic-relief that many feared. If anything, within the context of the film, the came of as more of an eccentric than as being the “funny guy”.

The score was fine. It felt like a proper SW score, but I must admit that it was somewhat forgettable. But it did the job, so I’m not really complaining.

There was one scene which felt weird to me though. It wasn’t bad, it was just…strange. It has this really weird creature in it. Maybe after seeing the film a second time I won’t mind this scene at all. It was just very unexpected, and quite unlike anything I’ve seen in a SW movie before. (It actually gave me kind of a Dark Empire vibe.) Obviously the SW galaxy is quite big, so there’s no reason why this thing wouldn’t exist. It just came as surprise that’s all. Like I said, I probably won’t mind it the next time I see it.

(Since it hasn’t been released in the US yet, I’ll avoid any major spoilers, such as who dies, etc. but I’ll make a few references to the end of the film.)

SPOILERS:

I was quite impressed by CG Tarkin, and I’m usually quite against these kinds of things. Sure, I still found all his scenes to be a tad weird, but I can’t really see how they could have done it any other way, and they did a very good job of it. Leia’s very brief appearance, was of the same quality. Impressive, but my very CG-skeptical tendencies still found it weird, but not weird enough to take me out of the film. It’s hard to explain, it was both weird and very cool at the same time.

I’m was quite impressed by how they handled Vader. I think they struck a good balance between the fans that wanted him to barely appear and those who wanted a lot of him. His appearances were brief, but very interesting. And although I was originally very skeptical to the idea of seeing Vader in action, I was impressed by how it was handled. It was short, but was still exiting. Vader was properly intimidating, and it felt very natural within the plot. There were two other bits of fan service which felt a little forced though. Luckily they were very short.

I also liked how they handled Jedha, and how they set up the Whills for future EU material.

A lot of lines from the trailers are completely gone. No “I, rebel” line, neither of Krennic’s “power” lines. Saw’s “the world is coming undone” line was gone. Actually the dialogue was much better than I expected. It had it’s Hollywood moments, but it didn’t annoy me like I had feared it would based on just seeing the trailers.

I was also relived to see how they handled the so called “plot hole” of ANH. There is no dialogue where Galen talks about adding the exhaust port. He does however talk about having designed the power-core (or whatever it’s called) to be “flawed” in such a way so that if attacked it will create a chain-reaction destroying the DS. I’m glad that they focused on this weakness, rather than some convoluted explanation about the exhaust port.

Ronster said:

Zkinandbonez is there any chance you could roughly tell us what scenes are not in the film from the trailers?

I have heard that the Tie Fighter on the Gantry is Gone all the running with the plan’s are gone. But nobody has really talked about how much is gone?

I am just curious how much from the trailers was either from prior to reshoot / Deleted Scenes or simply Marketing…

I go on Friday to see it. I don’t want to know so much what is in it but what we have seen that is not…

I just re-watched the sizzle reel and was surprised that the shot of Jyn and Cassian running on the beech with the plans were not in the film. Neither were the TIE rising up to view on the gantry.
The sizzle reel also has Jyn talking to a bald Saw, which is not in the film. I’m guessing this has to do with the re-shoots. Saw is only seen bald in the flashback opening scene. In all other scenes he has hair. Also, like I mentioned in my post, a lot of Saw’s lines from the trailers were completely gone.

Moroff was also never seen on Scarif, as the BTS footage and toys suggested. Bistan likewise only appeared very briefly. Pao got some decent screen-time, but he was hardly an important character.
The sizzle reel shot of Tudyk running with the Rebel soldiers on Scarif is also inconsistent with the final film. K-2SO is on Scarif, but he never runs on the beech while under fire.

There’s also a lot of smaller moments that’s missing; Jyn giving the fruit to the child on Jedha, rebels soldiers captured by Imperials, etc. It seem that they shot a lot of stuff on the Jedha City set, but chose to cut much of it out.

There might have been more, but this is all I can remember right now.

Ronster said:

OK Thanks man!

So the more recent trailers are comparable to the final film?

Does that shot of Krennic feature with his cape getting wet?

Yes, I think so. Which shot exactly are you referring to? Could you give me a link to the trailer?

Also, even the recent trailers/TV-spots had shots that were missing from the final film.

Ronster said:

^ I really liked this shot so I hope it’s there?

Oh right, I’d completely forgotten about that scene.

No, that scene is not in the final film.

Which is kind of weird now that I think about it. It seemed like such an important moment. However I can’t imagine when this scene could have taken place within the events shown in the final film.

I also enjoyed the film very much. More than TFA. It was a pretty slow start and I was thinking why should I be interested in this but after the rainy planet it really started pulling things together. Otherwise only things I didn’t like was the end with Vader and Leia, that battle felt so beneath Vader and Leia looked too fake. More than Tarkin, who blinked in one scene more than Cushing did the whole movie.

Just got back from the film. Verdict: two thumbs up. Not perfect, but very good in its own right.

CGI Tarkin was weird and there were two OT cameos that were a little too much.

I definitely need to digest and watch it a second time.

Bobo Jameson said:

ZkinandBonez said:

Ronster said:

Zkinandbonez is there any chance you could roughly tell us what scenes are not in the film from the trailers?

I have heard that the Tie Fighter on the Gantry is Gone all the running with the plan’s are gone. But nobody has really talked about how much is gone?

I am just curious how much from the trailers was either from prior to reshoot / Deleted Scenes or simply Marketing…

I go on Friday to see it. I don’t want to know so much what is in it but what we have seen that is not…

I just re-watched the sizzle reel and was surprised that the shot of Jyn and Cassian running on the beech with the plans were not in the film. Neither were the TIE rising up to view on the gantry.
The sizzle reel also has Jyn talking to a bald Saw, which is not in the film. I’m guessing this has to do with the re-shoots. Saw is only seen bald in the flashback opening scene. In all other scenes he has hair. Also, like I mentioned in my post, a lot of Saw’s lines from the trailers were completely gone.

Moroff was also never seen on Scarif, as the BTS footage and toys suggested. Bistan likewise only appeared very briefly. Pao got some decent screen-time, but he was hardly an important character.
The sizzle reel shot of Tudyk running with the Rebel soldiers on Scarif is also inconsistent with the final film. K-2SO is on Scarif, but he never runs on the beech while under fire.

There’s also a lot of smaller moments that’s missing; Jyn giving the fruit to the child on Jedha, rebels soldiers captured by Imperials, etc. It seem that they shot a lot of stuff on the Jedha City set, but chose to cut much of it out.

There might have been more, but this is all I can remember right now.

Is Moroff seen at all in Rogue One? And what about Edrio Two Tubes?

Yes, Moroff makes a few brief apparances on Jedha. And Edrio is the member of Saw’s group that is seen the most. Though I guess his twin may have made a few unannounced appearances.