My money is on it being like the opening logo of the Clone Wars movie.
Perhaps, or they could even go down the route of adding ‘A STAR WARS STORY’ border to every ‘standalone’ main title, so that they all look similar to this - makingstarwars.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Rogue-One-A-Star-Wars-Story-logo.jpg
(although personally, I’d prefer that the STAR WARS lettering was done in the proper ‘outline’ manner, rather than being made ‘solid’ like this example)
I agree with John Campea that this is a mistake by Lucasfilm if they drop the crawl. It has been apart of not just the saga films but the comic books, novels and video games. You have 2 hours to give us a new distinct type of Star Wars movie. If they really want to make the anthologies different in more important and meaningful ways then shake up the tone of the films, or take on a unique narrative style. That’s what I want from the anthologies. Not trashing an inherent part of almost all Star Wars movies (the crawl).
It won’t ruin the movie for me though in the slightest. I will get over it real quick but nevertheless (IMO) it is an unnecessary and dumb decision by Lucasfilm.
Have all the comics and games had crawls though? The original Marvel run never had them outside the movie adaptations.
Where were you in '77?
IIRC almost all the SW video games from the LucasArts days have had an opening crawl of some sort. (Well, except Yoda Stories…)
I do like the idea of dispensing with the crawl in order to differentiate the anthology films from the “regular” installments though.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
As I said, this should be a movie set in the Star Wars universe, not a Star Wars movie. There’s the Star Wars style and the Star Wars universe. They are two separate things. Comic books and video games are invariably trying to give you the experience of reading or playing a Star Wars movie. The crawl helps to further that aesthetic to bring them closer to the Star Wars style (despite not being the medium the style belongs to). Notice games like Republic Commando, which try to replicate the Star Wars universe but not style, are devoid of crawls.
Rogue One’s goals are completely different. The aesthetics that are important there are the in universe ones. A crawl is a presentational aesthetic, not an inherent part of the Star Wars universe. If Rogue One is going to break from the Star Wars style in so many ways (if it’s not totally chronological, if it’s devoid of swashbuckling, if the music has a different tone, etc.), then it doesn’t make any sense to keep a key element of that style, the crawl.
I will say, and I’ve said it before, I do think it’d be a mistake to ditch the “A long time ago…” card. Less an element of the Star Wars style and more a signpost that tells you you’re about to enter the Star Wars universe. So it’d make sense to keep that consistent.
I agree with John Campea that this is a mistake by Lucasfilm if they drop the crawl. It has been apart of not just the saga films but the comic books, novels and video games. You have 2 hours to give us a new distinct type of Star Wars movie. If they really want to make the anthologies different in more important and meaningful ways then shake up the tone of the films, or take on a unique narrative style. That’s what I want from the anthologies. Not trashing an inherent part of almost all Star Wars movies (the crawl).
It won’t ruin the movie for me though in the slightest. I will get over it real quick but nevertheless (IMO) it is an unnecessary and dumb decision by Lucasfilm.
I have to agree.
If a child does not have the same distinctive features as it’s parents you would think it’s somebody else’s child.
But if it’s gone it is gone.
The thing I’m gonna miss more than anything with the removal of a ‘chapter crawl’ at the start…is the booming Williams ‘main theme’ which usually accompanies it.
I was kinda hoping that the original Williams theme would remain a mainstay of the STAR WARS spin-offs, regardless of whoever was scoring each of the ‘standalone’ movie soundtracks. It’s gonna be strange for things to kick off without hearing it, no matter how the new titles are done.
The thing I’m gonna miss more than anything with the removal of a ‘chapter crawl’ at the start…is the booming Williams ‘main theme’ which usually accompanies it.
I was kinda hoping that the original Williams theme would remain a mainstay of the STAR WARS spin-offs, regardless of whoever was scoring each of the ‘standalone’ movie soundtracks. It’s gonna be strange for things to kick off without hearing it, no matter how the new titles are done.
It’s fairly easy to fix that though and if it’s not there someone will do it 100% guaranteed, so very little to be upset about in the long run.
Let’s not forget Lalo Schifrin and THX also.
As I said, this should be a movie set in the Star Wars universe, not a Star Wars movie. There’s the Star Wars style and the Star Wars universe. They are two separate things. Comic books and video games are invariably trying to give you the experience of reading or playing a Star Wars movie. The crawl helps to further that aesthetic to bring them closer to the Star Wars style (despite not being the medium the style belongs to). Notice games like Republic Commando, which try to replicate the Star Wars universe but not style, are devoid of crawls.
Rogue One’s goals are completely different. The aesthetics that are important there are the in universe ones. A crawl is a presentational aesthetic, not an inherent part of the Star Wars universe. If Rogue One is going to break from the Star Wars style in so many ways (if it’s not totally chronological, if it’s devoid of swashbuckling, if the music has a different tone, etc.), then it doesn’t make any sense to keep a key element of that style, the crawl.
I will say, and I’ve said it before, I do think it’d be a mistake to ditch the “A long time ago…” card. Less an element of the Star Wars style and more a signpost that tells you you’re about to enter the Star Wars universe. So it’d make sense to keep that consistent.
Again, totally agree.
I embrace this change. I think it’s cool that we might get Star Wars movies with different feels and different styles. The crawl doesn’t make a movie “Star Wars” to me, so I’m not worried about it being there or not.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
The thing I’m gonna miss more than anything with the removal of a ‘chapter crawl’ at the start…is the booming Williams ‘main theme’ which usually accompanies it.
I was kinda hoping that the original Williams theme would remain a mainstay of the STAR WARS spin-offs, regardless of whoever was scoring each of the ‘standalone’ movie soundtracks. It’s gonna be strange for things to kick off without hearing it, no matter how the new titles are done.
Another reason that losing the crawl is a dumb decision.
People complain if it’s too similar to another movie, people complain if it’s too dissimilar. You can’t win.
Keep Circulating the Tapes.
END OF LINE
(It hasn’t happened yet)
People complain if it’s too similar to another movie, people complain if it’s too dissimilar. You can’t win.
I just hope it’s entertaining.
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
double post, sorry.
“First feel fear, then get angry. Then go with your life into the fight.” - Bill Mollison
It’s fairly easy to fix that though and if it’s not there someone will do it 100% guaranteed, so very little to be upset about in the long run.
Oh sure, it’s possible for ‘fan editors’ to generate whatever ‘crawl’ intros they wish nowadays (along with adding the usual ‘main theme’ if they want)…and I agree that someone is bound to do so for their version of ROGUE ONE eventually.
But as far as the official versions of these ‘standalones’ go, I’ll certainly be interested to see how their new intros look and sound to kick things off.
(and at least we’ve still got ‘saga’ episodes 8 & 9 heading for the big screen, to get our fix of the usual intos once again) 😃
I’m glad they aren’t using the crawl. It’s become overused with star wars material and outside of it. I’ve always associated it with the episodic saga and not anything else. It will be nice to see the anthology movies standing on their own. It’s certainly NOT a dumb idea to lose it.
I think the real question is if not the Crawl we all know then what will it be?
There’s a nice mystery and anticipation about it but it can also harbour a sense of dread that it really might feel odd without it also.
It’s a mixed bag and it’s certainly brave decision to lose the crawl. It will definitely be Marmite… wait a minute Star Wars opening crawl looks a bit like a jar of Marmite 😃
If I had my way, all SW films would have opening crawls without any episode numbers, which is how it should’ve been all along.
Since that ship has already left the dock, though, I can live with the absence of a crawl for Rogue One. I’m sure some fan-editor or five will come along and create their own eventually anyway.
I think the film will start soft. The absence of the blast of the main theme will give the film a different feel right out of the gate and I think they’d want to capitalize on that. So maybe the title will just fade in.
Or maybe we won’t see the title until the end of the film? That’s become very common nowadays.
Or maybe we won’t see the title until the end of the film? That’s become very common nowadays.
I sure hope not. I hate when movies do that, and the increasing popularity of doing that is just annoying IMO.
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It was kinda fun when Nolan did it but now it’s gotten tiresome. And at least Nolan had the decency to make the title the first credit shown, unlike the Marvel movies which go through all the other stuff first. I mean really, when the title of your film doesn’t show up until 3 minutes into the end credits, I think there’s a problem there.
Nolan also started with the logo. The textless logo openings in TDK trilogy were well done. Now everything from Marvel to Star Trek even is withholding titles until the end.
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Of course SW itself was highly revolutionary for the 70s in not having opening credits. So much so that the controversy eventually led GL to abandon the Director’s Guild after it fined Kershner over doing this in ESB!
The first instance I can recall of another film aping SW in this regard is the first Pirates of the Caribbean film. I could be wrong though. Still, that’s a nearly 25-year gap, which itself suggests how unusual SW’s opening once was.
I do like the presence of some sort of film-opening title or logo (aside from the production company logo, of course). It’s like the rising of a curtain as a play begins, or the opening shot of a storybook in a classic Disney film: it gets you in the proper mood for watching a movie unfold on screen.
“That Darth Vader, man. Sure does love eating Jedi.”
The first instance I can recall of another film aping SW in this regard is the first Pirates of the Caribbean film. I could be wrong though. Still, that’s a nearly 25-year gap, which itself suggests how unusual SW’s opening once was.
You haven’t seen a single film from 77-03 that didn’t have opening credits? Hell, even just two years later Apocalypse Now didn’t have any on screen titles whatsoever.
Not to mention SW was far from the first film to do this.
Kristian Harloff tweeted that it is revealed someone in the Catalyst novel (who will obviously be in Rogue One) is Force Sensitive. All I hope is that character is not Jyn.
Isn’t it the blind guy with the powerful stick?
