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Revenge Of The Cut - Star Wars: Revenge Of The Sith (* unfinished project *) — Page 12

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Bingowings said:

I'm not sure about seeing them on Alderaan as it blows any chance of keeping Leia as at least one secret in your cut but it is your cut.

 I think I will remove the names during the birth sequence...because it's not very well done.

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It'd still be obvious who the babies are in the OT, though.  Luke especially, if you're keeping Obi-Wan delivering him on Tatooine, and then Leia through logic as the OT would go on.

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Also, Cutter, will the Luke and Leia theme be in the score any more than just in the birth scene?  I think its use in the birth scene should sound a bit more ominous, and I think a hint of it any time Anakin and Padme discuss the "baby" would be cool.  The audience would get so used to the theme, only for it to vanish in the OT until Luke and Leia realize who they really are, and it' d make a touching return (as opposed to how out-of-the-blue the theme is in ROTJ now).  The Luke and Leia theme as a featured theme in ROTS... that'd be amazing.

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That new scene with Padme on the balcony on Alderaan works really well.

This edit is shaping up great.

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rpvee said:

Also, Cutter, will the Luke and Leia theme be in the score any more than just in the birth scene?  I think its use in the birth scene should sound a bit more ominous, and I think a hint of it any time Anakin and Padme discuss the "baby" would be cool.  

 I will think about it : I plan to create original music where I used OT soundtracks

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TheoOdo said:

That new scene with Padme on the balcony on Alderaan works really well.

This edit is shaping up great.

 

If you like it as it looks right now, you will love it once achieved : the sequence will be much longer with a close-up of the baby, a color correction to ensure that all the sequences fits together and a new sunset fx...

and Vaderios give me a great idea to make the scene even better...

I need someone skilled with after effect

mrbenja0618  ?

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Where is angel these days?

Have you got him trapped in your cellar?

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The Cutter said:

TheoOdo said:

That new scene with Padme on the balcony on Alderaan works really well.

This edit is shaping up great.

 

If you like it as it looks right now, you will love it once achieved : the sequence will be much longer with a close-up of the baby, a color correction to ensure that all the sequences fits together and a new sunset fx...

and Vaderios give me a great idea to make the scene even better...

I need someone skilled with after effect

mrbenja0618  ?

PM me sir... We can start talking.

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I'll admit, it made me grin.  Couple things:

1. Do you create all that from scratch, or do you remix the original March?

2. I think it's a bit too in your face.  Maybe try having that build up before the main theme just grow louder and louder and louder until the cut to Obi-Wan... don't have the March itself just yet.

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Wow, it sounds good. I like it that until the shot from the roof, it has some drama in it, like you sketched a little of the force theme too, am I wrong? It'd be awsome if you made that drama thing a little more present in the score for that scene. But just a little, I mean, it mustn't cover Vader's theme at all.

Apart from that, I like the new change in music you're doing lately; it certainly adds to the movie and the story; with your new score, while using the leitmotiv, you constantly remember us that not everything that's related to the empire must be militaristic, or the Jedi= heroic, etc. I like it.

Suggestion that comes to mind: While you reinforce with music the moments that have a strong meaning to the plot, I always felt (specially with the original score) that some parts in ROTS are pointlessly scored. The clone troopers shot that comes inmediately after Anakin's strike is one of them. Is it possible to leave it un-scored just with ambient noise and dialogues? Like in Anh, inside the DS, you hear all the war-noises but no score...

It just doesn't fit the way it is, not because of the music but because of the visual edit. After Anakin's strike, it's like other protagonist should be shown, another paralel story (ObiWan, or Padmé's), not regular FX shot of clone troopers. However doing that would screw the pacing, so, if possible, leave that shot un scored.

 

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Another idea:

The way it is now, Cody is just a robot that blindly obbeys everything he is told by Palpatine.

In my last post I criticized the pacing of the movi right after Anakin turns. Said that right after Anakin's first strike you just need to see what happening withe the other characters (for a matter of contrast... "okay, Anakin fell, but what's up with the others?").

So this is my suggestion:

-Palp tells Anakin (in his office) what to do... "the sith will rule the galaxy, etc."

- Cut to somewhere else (am I the only one that feels it's too rushed how far Anakin gets to do his "first strike"???

- Cut back to Anakin first strike with your amazing new score. After this comes the part when I say we need to see another important character ... ok here's the novelty: that character is Palpatine. The idea would be: "while Anakin is killing people, what is Palpatine doing, sitting in his office??": NO.

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- Cut to Palpatine telling Cody "execute order 66"

- Cut to somewhere that's not Utapau.... maybe Padmé criying when she sees fire in the Jedi's.

- Cut to Utapau. ObiWan reunites with Cody, and then Cody shots him.

 

THE DETAIL: Cody would be giving him his lightsabre! And he says I think you'll be needing this! Left to the viewer's interpretation whether Cody was helping ObiWan or not.... If this is done well, you would have just made another character a little more deep!.

Besides, this way it'd be better, because you'd be generating another tension. You see what happens to Anakin and in the middle of it, you see the emperor telling a clone commander to "execute order 66". So it makes you wander what's gonna happen with ObiWan. There you generate the tension, but again, you put something in the middle: Padmé's scene, and maybe more (the more the better).

And when you come back to Utapau, you see the Clone might have developed some affection (?) for his Jedi General...

Maybe they developed such an affection because he chose to serve? ;)

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The Cutter said:

Want a new original music for the strike on the Jedi temple ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJDhhtsm9To

Part of the beginning reminds me of the Danger motif from The Lost World

will you bring the Boba fett and/or Imperial motif (NOT THE MARCH) into your music at any point?

John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/JOHN-WILLIAMS-Star-Wars-Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-Remastered-Edition/topic/14606/page/1/

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I like it and it's very well-done.  However, I think a darker and more subtle version of Imperial march would serve the scene better.  There's too much flare.  I think I liked it better when you had the Emperor's arrival theme.  Regardless, good job and it's more than I could ever hope to do.

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I'm impressed with the changes. Especially with your take on the Mace vs. Palpatine duel, as you're the first to have succesfully removed the other Jedi from that scene. I believe more can be achieved though. Losing "UNLIMITED POWER!!!" might be for the best, perhaps adding something more in line with Palpatine taunting Luke as he fries him.

"Use my knowledge" is a small but significant change. I believe Palpatine's voice could ring inside Anakin for a little longer. For instance the scene where Anakin kills the younglings kids in the temple could be augmented by adding "Do not hesitate, and show no mercy" as Anakin ignites his lightsaber.

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fishmanlee said:


will you bring the Boba fett and/or Imperial motif (NOT THE MARCH) into your music at any point?

 what do u mean by imperial motif ?

 

Mithrandir, I will use your good ideas in my cut

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rpvee said:

1. Do you create all that from scratch, or do you remix the original March?

 everything is new, progammed note by note

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 There's too much flare. 

 I will take in consideration what you and rpvee said : the music seems to be too much "glorious"

 

 

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Put Captain Solo in the Cargo Hold said:

 For instance the scene where Anakin kills the younglings kids in the temple could be augmented by adding "Do not hesitate, and show no mercy" as Anakin ignites his lightsaber.

 good idea - I will see if it's possible without damaging the Anakin / Palpatine sequence

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By Imperial Motif, I believe he means the "dun-dun-dun DUN!!!" we hear a lot in New Hope, particularly anytime the Death Star comes into view at the beginning of a scene.

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The Cutter said:

fishmanlee said:


will you bring the Boba fett and/or Imperial motif (NOT THE MARCH) into your music at any point?

 what do u mean by imperial motif ?

 

Mithrandir, I will use your good ideas in my cut

Found in the second half of this medley.

It was basically used to signify an Imperial presence in the first Star Wars film (as the Imperial March hadn't been written yet).

I regret that it wasn't retconned as the Troopers Motif in the PT and the later OT films.

Like the Droids Motif and Luke and Leia's Theme it became a one film wonder which is a real shame.

Imagine it with the Imperial March's rhythmic thuds at the end of AOTC and you'd get a hint that the Empire is coming but not quite there yet.

The use of the Droid Army theme for both the Fed droids and the Republican Clones was probably meant to be a clue but seeing as there was no real mystery it just became a bit of a mess.

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nice, another good idea with this imperial motiv

I just find the perfect place to introduce it : when Obi-wan escape from Utapau, the shot where we see clones seeking for him...I can introduce the theme here, without damaging the existing music