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I was wondering on how to go about removing vocals from a scene. I would think I would have to split the 5 channels, use a audio editor to cut out the voice from a particular scene and then mux the 5 channels back together to use in an edit. I dont know if thats how it should work but could someone give me a crash coruse on how to do so and let me know what programs I would need to tackle this project?

Thanks Guys

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Most dialogue is in the center channel, unless the scene requires otherwise, and effects tend to go to the side/rears unless, again, the scene requires otherwise. You want to use something like Besweet (free) to split up the AC3 file.

If a person's voice pans from center to, say, left front (due to walking or camera movement), then you'll have to take both tracks and combine them. If there are effects in the center channel with dialogue, you probably won't be able to to remove them entirely without affecting the voice (a gunshot, for example.) Normal human speech is generally between 20-20,000 Hz, so you need to set up your audio program to drop everything above and below that (think equalizer), and see what kind of results that gets you.

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"Normal human speech is generally between 20-20,000 Hz"

Generally?? lol you'd certainly hope so..unless you got kicked in the b*lls perhaps

Sorry MeBeJedi, just made me giggle thats all.

Maybe MeBeJedi means that human hearings maximum range is 20-20,000 Hz and actual voice bandwidth could vary inbetween this, though id say roughly from bass to soprano between 400 and 4000 Hz is usual for peaks
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Yeah, I meant that too.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Ok so whats a good method for ripping the audio track from the DVD to be split up. I guess what Im asking is whats a good program that rips just the audio from a DVD?

Also what program should I use to edit the channels after I have split them?


Oh yeah mebejedi did you ever receive the PM I sent you ?

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Yes, I've been kinda busy...sorry (and it's better to email me at originaltrilogy and yahoo dot com )

IIRC, VOBrator can separate the video and audio tracks quite well, but it's kinda technical. I've not used a wide range of programs - I find something that works and generally stick with that. If you have DVD-Lab, you can drop the VOB into that and it will separate the streams as well and quite easily. After that, Besweet will split the AC3 into 5 WAVs (I could never get it to make the .1 channel. Maybe that's changed since then.) After that, I edit in Vegas, and recombine them into a new AC3 file.

Vegas can edit MPEGs, but it's kinda slow. Better to render out to an AVI. If you're just cutting segments out, you can use Womble (ADigitalMan is the expert on that program. I've not used it at all.) Doom9 should have better directions than I can give.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Ok thanks thats been a huge help so far

Dont mean to be a nag but is your email mebejedi@yahoo?

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Heh, no. originaltrilogy at yahoo dot com.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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ah gotcha, the and threw me off

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Oops...I see what you mean. How did I do that?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: GhostAlpha26
Ok so whats a good method for ripping the audio track from the DVD to be split up. I guess what Im asking is whats a good program that rips just the audio from a DVD? DVD Decrypter with stream processing enabled will rip individual video/audio streams. Alternatively you could just rip the VOBs and use DVD-lab to demux as MeBeJedi stated.
Originally posted by: GhostAlpha26
Also what program should I use to edit the channels after I have split them?
If removing the voice is simply a case of replacing portions of the centre channel with silence, any audio editor will suffice (i.e. Audition, Sound Forge, Audacity, etc...)

However, I don't know how you would go about killing frequencies within a certain range, if you needed to go down that route.
Originally posted by: CW
... id say roughly from bass to soprano between 400 and 4000 Hz is usual...
So what is it when you've been on the helium?

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