Rate 'The Last Jedi' (NO SPOILERS) (was: Rate TFA (NO SPOILERS)) — Page 5

Jay said:

Borrowing elements from a wide variety of sources and blending them to create something no one has seen before is very different from creating a near carbon copy of an earlier film in the very same franchise.

As far as my ratings go, I pretty much agree with ZkinandBonez. I really enjoy Star Wars, but even ESB is an 8 or 8.5 in a world full of amazing films. That’s why I give TFA a 5 or 6 tops.

MINOR SPOILER$ even though this is a no spoiler thread.

The Force Awakens is not a near carbon copy of Star Wars. [SPOILERS REMOVED] None of that matters because the stories and the way it’s done are so much more different. Star Wars is much more of a copy than The Force Awakens is. Akira Kurosawa’s Hidden Fortress, Flash Gordon, Hero of a Thousand Faces. It may sound bad, but ORIGINALITY DOES NOT MATTER AT ALL.

Please don’t post spoilers in this thread. - Jay

1.ESB 90 balls
2.ANH 80 balls
3.ROTJ 67 balls
4.TFA 65 balls
5.ROTS 60 balls
6.TPM 20 balls
7.AOTC 15 balls.

1. Empire Strikes Back 10/10 Masterpiece
2. The Force Awakens 9/10
   Amazing
3. Star Wars 1977 8.5/10
   Great
4. Return of the Jedi 7.5/10
   Good
5. Revenge of the Sith 6/10
   Barely enjoyable
6. The Phantom Menace 3/10
   Boring
7. Attack of the Clones 2/10
   Cringe worthy

Yeah Jay my review is up. I’m posting on a smartphone so pasting a link isn’t easy at the moment but I will later if I can remember. I was tempted to put it below ROTS because despite the obvious flaws in all the prequels I do remember leaving the cinema with that ‘cinema buzz’ of visiting a fictional realm and returning. When I left TFA I felt" hmmm that happened". The performances of the leads were great it looked great but it felt cynical albeit a more sophisticated cynical than Prometheus or The Phantom Menace. No buzz.

StarChewyWar said:

1. Empire Strikes Back 10/10 Masterpiece
2. The Force Awakens 9/10
   Amazing
3. Star Wars 1977 8.5/10
   Great

Refer to the image in my signature.

Well, now I’ve seen everything.

Yeah even after seeing TFA twice I would still go with:

Empire Strikes Back 10/10
Star Wars 9/10
Return of the Jedi 7.5/10
The Force Awakens 6/10
Prequel #1 3/10
Prequel #2 1/10
Prequel #3 1/10

Having seen it three times, I’m more comfortable integrating it into my ranking. I’m going to use letter grades, because I like those better.

The Phantom Menace: C-
Attack of the Clones: D
Revenge of the Sith: D/C-
A New Hope: A
The Empire Strikes Back: A+
Return of the Jedi: B
The Force Awakens: B/B+

Right now I think TFA has a slight edge of ROTJ by virtue of its enthusiasm. There’s just so much gee-whiz vitality across the board there, whereas I’ve always felt that in Jedi everyone except Mark Hamill and Ian McDiarmid is coasting. I’m really not going to be able to do this definitively until I’ve lived with TFA on home video for a year or so, though.

Actually there are many of us here who rate TPM highest of the prequels.

Count me in that group. TPM is absolutely a terrible film. But it does get excessively killed in reviews compared to the absolute crap that the next two prequels were.

The popular idea that Prequel #3 was actually a good movie is the most ridiculous Star Wars thing I’ve ever heard.

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Actually there are many of us here who rate TPM highest of the prequels.

I don’t doubt that. I mean that I don’t dislike it as much as most here do. Maybe I have the wrong impression, though.

I think in proper fanedited form, it’s not half-bad. I actually posted this exact thought on FE an hour ago.

Jay said:

TV’s Frink said:

Actually there are many of us here who rate TPM highest of the prequels.

I don’t doubt that. I mean that I don’t dislike it as much as most here do. Maybe I have the wrong impression, though.

In defense of prequel 3 it does have good action set pieces and a few examples of the actors bordering on giving a performance. It also has the moment where Ian McDiarmid stopped being subtle and one or two lines that actually out do AOTC in the awkward romance stakes. But I did leave the cinema with a bounce in my step missing when I left after watching TFA