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This isn't DVD related, but with all the audio tinkering that you guys do, I'm sure someone can help me....

I want to be able to preserve audio tracks taken from live albums so that they play seamlessly. Usually, when I rip a live album to MP3s and play them, there's always a break between the tracks. Is there a way to rip the audio (to MP3 or WAV) without getting those breaks so that it plays like a true, uninterruped live album? Is there a certain program or method?

I appreciate any help.
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Are you talking about ripping live albums from CD, or from some other source? If you rip to MP3 and play, there will always be a slight pause because of the nature of MP3s. You've gotta rip to WAV or another uncompressed format for there to be no pauses. Not sure if FLAC (compressed, but lossless) will give you pauses. It might during computer playback, but if you burn to CD from FLAC, it won't.

Also, if you're looking to get rid of the pauses in between tracks that are hard-coded into the CD itself (like that two-second countdown before a track), some ripping programs will skip ripping that space if you set it properly. Exact Audio Copy is one of those programs.

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I'm talking about ripping from CDs.

Okay....I get that I can't rip MP3s or WAVs of a live album (ie Frampton Comes Alive) and then have them play seamlessly. Is there a program that will let me burn an EXACT copy on CD of a live album, preserving the seamless play.

You know when you play a live album and the song ends and all you hear is the crowd cheering and then the next song starts....there is no silence of break in between the songs. It's all seamless. I would like to preserve that effect.

Will this Exact Audio Copy do the trick? I'm looking at the website and I'm not seeing that it can do that....

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Yes, I know what you're talking about.

You'll have to do one of two things.

One is to rip the disc as WAV files and burn using a CD burning program (such as Nero) in "Disc-At-Once" mode. This will leave no pauses in between tracks. With Nero, make sure you either click the box that says "No pauses between tracks" (if you're using Express) or (if you're using Nero Burning ROM) to select "Properties" on all tracks and set the pause from 2 seconds to 0 seconds.

The other thing you could do is rip an ISO image file of the CD and burn from that, which would create an exact duplicate of the orignal disc.

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Just found this program that looks like it's perfect....

Feurio

Says it supports live recordings....
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Originally posted by: ReverendBeastly


One is to rip the disc as WAV files and burn using a CD burning program (such as Nero) in "Disc-At-Once" mode. This will leave no pauses in between tracks. With Nero, make sure you either click the box that says "No pauses between tracks" (if you're using Express) or (if you're using Nero Burning ROM) to select "Properties" on all tracks and set the pause from 2 seconds to 0 seconds.



I swear I've tried this before on a different program, but adjusting the settings exactly as you mention and I still got the breaks in between the tracks....
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Rip the whole CD to one large MP3. Use a cue file to store track information.

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iTunes 7 and the latest iPod OS software feature gapless playback of all supported file types, including mp3. So, you can listen to your mp3's of a live album with no pauses. Same for continuous flowing albums like Abbey Road or Dark Side of The Moon. It works great...

You can go about your business. Move along, move along.

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Well, I want to be able to burn a CD copy of stuff like Pink Floyd's The Wall and have it gapless.

I would love to be able to do it with MP3s as well, but I ain't supporting the rotten Apple to do it. I'm no traitor!!!

Seriously though...if anyone has a tried and true program for it, I'd love to hear about it. I haven't tried the above programs yet. I will tonight.....I was way too under the weather last night to do anything.

How do the cue files work? I've never messed with those before.
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I've been a faithful user of Poikosoft Easy CD-DA Extractor for about a decade now. Well worth the price, as I've gotten free upgrades for life.

It has a setting where you can rip all selected tracks to a single file.

It also has a file converter that will convert pretty much anything to anything, at any bitrate. It's an AWESOME program.

Look it up at www.poikosoft.com.
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LAME is a top quality MP3 encoder which can generate gapless files, given the proper encoding parameters.

Foobar2000 (among others) can recognize the gapless playback tag in LAME-encoded files.

The most accurate CD ripper, especially for CD's in less-than-perfect condition, is Exact Audo Copy (EAC) hands down.
It can also burn CD-R's in Disc-At-Once mode (i.e. gapless).
If you have LAME installed and tell EAC where to find it, EAC can rip your CD directly to MP3 files in one step.

All three of those are freely available, so the "i" people don't get a penny.

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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Well, I want to be able to burn a CD copy of stuff like Pink Floyd's The Wall and have it gapless. If you are simply wanting to backup the album to a CD-R, then go the disc image (ISO, NRG, etc...) route. The backup should be virtually identical to the original - audio has not been through a lossy encoder.

Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Seriously though...if anyone has a tried and true program for it, I'd love to hear about it. I haven't tried the above programs yet.
Another vote here for EAC & LAME.

Originally posted by: Cable-X1
How do the cue files work? I've never messed with those before.
Use a media player that supports cue sheets; e.g. Winamp with mp3cue plugin, MPlayer, foobar2000, etc...

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Originally posted by: Cable-X1
Well, I want to be able to burn a CD copy of stuff like Pink Floyd's The Wall and have it gapless.

I would love to be able to do it with MP3s as well, but I ain't supporting the rotten Apple to do it. I'm no traitor!!!


iTunes is free and you can burn right from the program, whatever your filetype is, gapless.
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Personally I hate mp3 and I always rip to wave with EAC. It's the only program I trust to make exact digital copies without errors.
You can burn the tracks with nero and select "burn compilation > audio cd > no pause between tracks".
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